AH Challenge: A Swedish settler colony in the tropics?

With a POD anytime during or after the Age of Exploration, can anyone come up with an AH scenario that involves the creation of a Swedish settler colony anywhere in the tropical regions of the world? The settler population could be anything from the likes of the English and French in North America, or the British in Australia, or the Afrikaners in South Africa, or it could be a "miscegenation" scenario that involves the creation of a new Swedish "mestizo" race.
 

archaeogeek

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With a POD anytime during or after the Age of Exploration, can anyone come up with an AH scenario that involves the creation of a Swedish settler colony anywhere in the tropical regions of the world? The settler population could be anything from the likes of the English and French in North America, or the British in Australia, or the Afrikaners in South Africa, or it could be a "miscegenation" scenario that involves the creation of a new Swedish "mestizo" race.

I figure Saint Bart is not enough? These swedes, never happy :p
More seriously, Guyana was rather neglected for a long period of time (including Brazilian Para) and could probably lend itself to some colonies, but it's basically a malaria haven.
 
I agree with archaeogreek.

If they settled anywhere, I'd bet it would be in Southern Brazil, and Northern Argentina. But offcourse, when the Portuguese and Spanish bring their black slaves, they also bring Malaria and Yellow fever, ruining the Swede's chances of mercantillism.

If they got to the Falkland Islands, while not tropical, it would be a small sucess for the guys that missed out on the colonial expansion.
 
Some Caribbean island(s). Possibly Guinea. Failing that, maybe they could get some colonies in OTL Ghana, or the Ivory Coast? Maybe the Congo?
 
Hm, well their was the Swedish Gold Coast (Ghana), have them make it successful (likely obtaining the Danish Gold Coast) and then
making it the 'Jewel of the Swedish Empire', promoting immigration (through various means) and investment.

Apart from that maybe have them start a colony in Central America.


What would be interesting is what would happen if the colony's population (by the time primarily white or mestizo) becomes equal
and/or surpasses the mother country's population.
 
A Swedish Colony....

...Ok, it's not tropical, but how about a Swedish Tierra del Fuego or a Swedish colony in the Austral section of Chile? Could have been started by a bunch of Scandinavian whalers in the 1800s. Alternatively, Falklands & South Georgia (The Bernadotte Islands?).
 

archaeogeek

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Ceylon or are the British never going to allow that?

The main problem is demographics: for a settlement colony, Ceylon has about 300k inhabitants in 1800, the Maldives about 10k Sinhala settlers (iirc at the time they were already differentiated enough for Divehi to be a separate language). Of course you could still encourage large scale settlement and ethnic mixing, I guess, but Sweden at this point has about 3 million people.
 
The main problem is demographics: for a settlement colony, Ceylon has about 300k inhabitants in 1800, the Maldives about 10k Sinhala settlers (iirc at the time they were already differentiated enough for Divehi to be a separate language). Of course you could still encourage large scale settlement and ethnic mixing, I guess, but Sweden at this point has about 3 million people.

Based on the Spanish-Portuguese model of intermarriage, sounds doable for the Cortesia time-line.
 

archaeogeek

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Based on the Spanish-Portuguese model of intermarriage, sounds doable for the Cortesia time-line.

Might work then; a scandinavian buddhist kingdom in Asia would be mildly hilarious I guess :p (thinking of Cortesia, I just had a thought about this: maybe Oaxaca might be a good compromise name since Mexico is too tainted and Cortesia sounds weird imo; it's also a silly OTL reference since Cortez' post conquest title was Marquis of Oaxaca)
 
Might work then; a scandinavian buddhist kingdom in Asia would be mildly hilarious I guess :p (thinking of Cortesia, I just had a thought about this: maybe Oaxaca might be a good compromise name since Mexico is too tainted and Cortesia sounds weird imo; it's also a silly OTL reference since Cortez' post conquest title was Marquis of Oaxaca)

Maldives was Muslim by this period not Buddhist.

I'll considering that rename for The Second Edition
 
An alternative approach would be to have Swedes or like minded Norwegians cluster in another country's temperate colony. Say Canada, Australia, SA, Argentina or NZ. You'd have to find a good economic POD though

If you could get a good solid population in the 19th century that was regularly replenished until the 1930s cut backs on immigration then you might be able to get a Swedish or bilingual population with a close connection with the motherland.

NZ took a few Swedes and Norwegians in the 19th century and while they have left a mark, they were quickly absorbed/swamped by the majority Anglo population. I'm not sure of exact numbers though, although I would guess in the low thousands (not tens of). Given how few European settlers NZ actually took compared to the other settler colonies, I suspect it wouldn't be hard to build a longer term population. In those odd racialist / religious days Northern European Protestants were deemed equal of the British so the local colonials may have preferred such immigrants as opposed to Irish Catholic immigrants.
 
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