AH challenge A stronger Soviet navy for WW2

Umm,I suspect few replies. Anyway,the challenge with a POD no earlier than 1920 is to create a Soviet naval fleet which can A]Rival or seriously threaten the Kriegsmarine or B]Seriously threaten the IJN in the Pacific.Thoughts?
 
A 1920 POD? That's tricky- it would be easier with a pre-1905 one.

No Nazis, instead a successful putsch by the KPD. Germany is now a Soviet ally, so their main foe is Japan. Therefore, all the effort which goes into modernising the army IOTL goes into building a Pacific Fleet which can re-fight Tsushima and win. The ships are built at a new yard in Vladivostok, with a huge drydock complex built by convict labour. It's a fleet built specifically for combat in the Sea of Japan, in range of land-based air power, where the IJN's carriers are less important. Therefore, in keeping with OTL later Soviet doctrine, it's built as a battlefleet rather than for power projection, with the sole aim of keeping Soviet control of the Sea of Japan- to destroy the other guy's power-projection fleet rather than building your own.

I assume you mean the OTL KM/IJN, not an ATL one. Otherwise, the easy option is to have the KM keep to Versailles limits, in which case the OTL Red Fleet is a match for it!
 

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Umm,I suspect few replies. Anyway,the challenge with a POD no earlier than 1920 is to create a Soviet naval fleet which can A]Rival or seriously threaten the Kriegsmarine or B]Seriously threaten the IJN in the Pacific.Thoughts?

*glup*

In OTL they lost practically their entire Navy after 1918 and could not start rebuilding until the early 30´s. The first "new" destroyer wasn´t commissioned before 1936.

No civil war/international intervention or just a very short one, followed by a very quick econimic recovery. The latter is next to ASB considering the mess the inept Commies made of the Russian economy.
Option a) is easy. If modernized the four Gangut-class BBs, one or two Imperatritsa Maryia-class BBs and up to four Borodino-class BCs easily dwarf the german Navy and its two, three modern BBs.
Option b) is IMO impossible. You need even more and better BBs and carriers. No way the USSR can do it on its own and if Poland is overrun in 1920 and Germany turns red at the same time, Lenin and Stalin will rather target western Europe in the following years.

#%&$§ Scratch that, the civil war/intervention began well before 1920, so the Navy is gone and a new one is impossible to build unless the Commies become devoted capitalists so the economy can recover. But that´s ASB – they will try to do it the commie-way, make an even bigger mess of the economy and need decades to get out of it.
 
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