AH Challenge: A Non-ASB Islamic States of America.

Is it possible to make a Non-ASB TL in which The USA becomes an Islamic Nation.

  • Yes.

    Votes: 13 23.2%
  • No.

    Votes: 43 76.8%

  • Total voters
    56
I would say have them import more African slaves and not go to the trouble of converting them from Islam.
 
Ok. Is it possible to create a reasonable, believable, non-ASB TL in which The United States of America (From any time between 1776 through 2009) becomes either an Islamic Theocracy or with an Islamic Majority in population?

Not with POD from 1776
but a sooner discovery of America by Arab mabye work
i mean before Columbus in 1492

after a Script of the Historian al-Masudi (871-957 CE)
navigator Chaschchasch ibn Said ibn Aswad reach America in 889
the osman Admiral Piri Reis claimes to used ibn Aswad old maps
for making his famous map
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piri_Reis_map

more on that (the text is almost Alternate History)
http://www.sunnah.org/history/precolmb.htm

so WI Chaschchasch ibn Said ibn Aswad of Spain had discovert America,
and the caliph of Spain Abdullah Ibn Mohammad claime this land ?

if the European reach America in 15 century, there will be 600 years old Islamic Caliphates
and of curse the new world is not called America but has a Islamic name
 
With a POD post 1776:

It's verging on ASB, but could we have a situation were Europe degenerates in a cycle of war and pestilence, getting so self-absorbed that there's no interest in American affairs, and, later, that depopulation is enough that there's lots of room for people to make new lives within Europe.

The *US still wants/needs settlers, and the only places with surplus people/energy are the lands of Islam (probably starting with North Africa).

Still going to be a problem getting a Muslim MAJORITY, 'tho.
 
Large(r) Muslim population is easy.

Majority, or even Plurality is damned hard and quite remote.

Theocracy? No chance in hell.

HTG
 

Michael Busch

Okay, now we ask: What do you mean by a USA? Do you mean the USA, former British colony on the Eastern Seaboard and federal republic? Do you mean any independent nation in that position? Should it be a federal republic? Should it be an ex-British colony?

This is the important point here. Traditional Islamic governments in OTL have never been structured anything like the US. An Islamic American nation may be plausible, even with so late a POD, but I would not compare a single theocratic government to a federal republic.
 
I think I have a borderline ASB idea. The Americans crash and burn ten times worse than the Central American Republic and it all seperates into waring states that depopulate the east coast. Meanwhile, the Spanish and French decide to reconquer Western North Africa in the name of Christianity(Phillip 2nd's spirit comes back and is drug high and influences? I did say borderline ASB) and they start a brutal repression of Islam, and encourage Muslims to leave North Africa for the New World. The warring American states see that many Muslims are fleeing from North Africa and offer to take them in if they fight for them, seeing as their armies are wrecked and running out of troops and their armies are now majority Muslim and control the state by a noose.. By the mid-1850s half of the East Coast is Muslim and the French and Spanish keep trying to Christianize North Africa while Austria and Russia go insane and start trying to take down the Ottomans in an alliance that succeds, causing more refugees, and by the late 20th century the states are dominated by Muslims and in the name of Islam decide to federate into the Islamic States of America? Hello borderline ASB. But then again, America becoming a superpower in 1796 was also incredibly farfetched....
 
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