AH Challenge: 1 Roosevelt Presidency every 30 years.

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So what if, roughly ever 30 years, there's a Roosevelt Presidency? I know the numbers don't match up, but since Teddy Roosevelt was President in 1903, and thirty years later in 1933, FDR took power, it made me think of the Roosevelts continuing as a sort of once-a-generation dynasty, and of the possibilities of having the Roosevelts become president again, every thirty years.

The years I want a Roosevelt to become President in that they didn't in OTL are 1963, and 1993. Is there any way this could happen, or is it horribly ASB?
 
It could happen; it's highly unlikely and implausable, but not "horribly ASB". If I may, I'd like to suggest that you search out a couple Roosevelts who might have been presidential material in the early 60s and early 90s and start a discussion on how they might have become POTUS.
 
It could happen; it's highly unlikely and implausable, but not "horribly ASB". If I may, I'd like to suggest that you search out a couple Roosevelts who might have been presidential material in the early 60s and early 90s and start a discussion on how they might have become POTUS.

The Roosevelts were sort of like the Churchills that way: for many reasons, often relating to their descendants' character and upbringing, (FDR and Eleanor were rather hands-off parents) their heirs didn't inherit a shred of political talent. Certainly no one on FDR's side of the family did.
 
Easy.
Quentin Roosevelt, Supreme Allied Commander Europe, 34th President of the United States (1957-1964).

Hillary Roosevelt, married to Quentin Roosevelt Jr., 40th President of the United States (1993-2001).
 
Alright, here goes:

The POD is 1954. Franklin D. Roosevelt Jr., a Representative from New York, wins the gubernatorial nomination as he intended. Roosevelt then defeats the Republican nominee.

Governor Roosevelt has a popular record as Governor, and he impresses Senator John F. Kennedy in 1958, when he narrowly defeats Republican Nelson Rockefeller. Roosevelt runs for President in 1960, and wins the Democratic nomination. He defeats JFK, LBJ, and all the others for the nomination, and he selects Sen. Kennedy as his running mate. (Roosevelt/Kennedy: One of the awesomest tickets evar:D)

President Roosevelt serves from 1961 to 1969, and he's pretty successful. He's succeeded by Richard Nixon, who still gets involved in Watergate and is succeeded by Gerald Ford in '74. President Ford gets primaried by Ronald Reagan in '76, and Reagan wins the general election. Reagan is a popular President from 1977 to 1985, and he wins re-election by a near-unanimous landslide in 1980.

The third President Roosevelt highly inspires his cousin, Theodore Roosevelt IV. Since TTL's GOP is more conservative, Roosevelt joins the Democratic Party, although he's more of a moderate Democrat. Roosevelt runs for Governor of New York in 1978, and wins the election. He is re-elected overwhelmingly in 1982, and despite much speculation, he declines to run for President in 1984 (he recognizes a suicide run when he sees one). He is re-elected to a third term in 1986, but again declines to run for POTUS in 1988 - again, he feels that he cannot defeat George Bush. But when 1992 comes around, and Theodore Roosevelt is serving his fourth term as Governor of New York, he feels confident enough that he can win. So he runs for the Democratic presidential nomination, and he wins an uber-victory - he's a centrist with both business credentials, has a huge record as Governor, there is no Mario Cuomo to challenge him, he isn't disliked by liberals like Clinton was, and, of course, he's a Roosevelt, and therefore has lots of name recognition and is RICH.

Therefore, Governor Roosevelt wins the nomination overwhelmingly (I doubt Clinton would even run). He selects Arkansas Governor Bill Clinton as his running mate, since Clinton is a charismatic small-state Governor who is in ideological tune with Roosevelt. And so the Roosevelt/Clinton ticket defeats Bush/Quayle overwhelmingly in November. I'm not sure if Perot would run.

So there you have it. Roosevelt/Kennedy in 1960, and Roosevelt/Clinton in 1992, all in the same timeline.:D
 
Easy.
Quentin Roosevelt, Supreme Allied Commander Europe, 34th President of the United States (1957-1964).

Hillary Roosevelt, married to Quentin Roosevelt Jr., 40th President of the United States (1993-2001).

He was an Air Service officer, so if we're murdering flocks of butterflies SACEUR will have to be an Army officer. More likely he goes into politics after the war, which butterflies FDR's political career. Quentin would probably be a Hoover (i.e. centrist in 1930s GOP terms) Republican. So he runs for Congress in the late '20s or early '30s, then decides whether to run for Governor or Senator in NY. From there it's waiting for the right moment to run for POTUS.
 
He was an Air Service officer, so if we're murdering flocks of butterflies SACEUR will have to be an Army officer.
Eh. What was the name of that Air Force General who was going to become Allied Commander before he died in a plane crash?

More likely he goes into politics after the war, which butterflies FDR's political career. Quentin would probably be a Hoover (i.e. centrist in 1930s GOP terms) Republican. So he runs for Congress in the late '20s or early '30s, then decides whether to run for Governor or Senator in NY. From there it's waiting for the right moment to run for POTUS.
Theodore Roosevelt Jr. didn't stop FDR's rise and Quentin's formidable but a bit young to do that.
It's silly to speculate on on what Quentin's ideology would be.
Quentin ran for POTUS in this scenario after Truman's "third term" ended.
 
Many sources I've read say that Quentin's death is what delivered the final blow to TR's health. So if Quentin lives, and comes back a war hero to boot, that probably revives his father's spirit a bit.

Otherwise, I agree with your scenario, though butterflies almost surely ensure Truman doesn't become POTUS.
 
Many sources I've read say that Quentin's death is what delivered the final blow to TR's health. So if Quentin lives, and comes back a war hero to boot, that probably revives his father's spirit a bit.

Otherwise, I agree with your scenario, though butterflies almost surely ensure Truman doesn't become POTUS.
Yeah, I actually suspect Quentin would be influenced by his father politically if he lives longer.
I forgot that this most likely means Theodore Roosevelt '20 though :eek: which would make sure FDR doesn't get the Veepship.
However TR floated Harding as a good VP so we could still get President Harding and probably FDR in the end, though there will a different way to get there.

Truman is too awesome to be butterflied away :mad: I like him :p
 
In 1958, Rep. James Roosevelt (D-CA), son of FDR, is elected Governor of California.

On the eve of the 1960 Democratic National Convention, Senator John F. Kennedy suffers a heart attack which he will survive but will have to end his campaign for the White House. JFK endorses Roosevelt and releases his delegates. Roosevelt selects LBJ as his running mate to hold onto the South and they defeat the Nixon/Lodge ticket that November.

After two successful terms which included passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Voting Rights Act of 1965 (milder version of OTL Great Society), Vice President Johnson wins the Democratic nomination for President in 1968. He and his running mate Hubert Humphrey defeat the Nixon/Agnew ticket.

The stresses of dealing with the civil wars in Laos and Cambodia, military coups in South America and PLO terrorism in the Middle East takes its toll on LBJ and he suffers a fatal heart attack in 1971. By 1972, the country tires of 12 years of Democrats in the White House. Despite his selection of the charismatic Governor of California Ronald Reagan for VP (he remains a Democrat). Humphrey fails to win the Presidency in his own right. Ohio Governor James Rhodes and his running mate, Senator Edward Brooke, win the 1972 Election.

Rhodes' term in office is marked by a recession, foreign policy fiascoes (Laos and Cambodia fall to the Communists, Suslov succeeds Brezhnev as General Secretary of the USSR) and the marital problems of Vice President Brooke (he and his wife divorce in late 1975). Ronald Reagan declares his candidacy and is the immediate front runner for the Democrats. President Rhodes is challenged from the right by Rep. John Ashbrook. While Rhodes barely survives the New Hampshire primary, Ashbrook wins North Carolina in a major upset.

President Rhodes manages to win the GOP nomination in 1976. To appease the conservatives, Rhodes selects Senator Bill Brock (R-TN) as his running mate (Brooke decided not to seek reelection). Reagan and his running mate John Glenn defeat the Rhodes/Brock ticket in a landslide. Meanwhile, Theodore Roosevelt's 21 year old great-grandson Mark Roosevelt is elected to the Massachusetts state legislature on Reagan's coattails.

Reagan has a successful two-term Presidency. With his Secretary of Defense Henry "Scoop" Jackson, defense spending is quadrupled with the intent of forcing the Soviets to catch up to the USA and bankrupting themselves in the process, as well as create jobs in the defense industry (such as Boeing). Reagan also succeeds in cutting income taxes across the board from the 50-65 percent rates to 25-35 percent.

Despite Reagan's popularity, the Democrats fail to extend their hold on the White House. They nominate Vice President Glenn but he proves to be a terrible campaigner. Senator George H.W. Bush (Phil Crane's 1980 running mate) wins the GOP nomination. He and his running mate Richard Thornburgh win a close race in 1984, and are reelected in 1988.

In Massachusetts, Mark Roosevelt begins his meteoric rise on the political ladder. By 1982, he is elected Speaker of the state House of Representatives (making him the youngest leader of a state legislative body in the USA at the age of 27). In 1986, the 31 year old Roosevelt is elected Governor and the youngest Governor in the USA at the time. In 1988, Roosevelt gives the keynote address at the Democratic national convention. He is reelected in a landslide in 1990.

In 1992, Roosevelt throws his hat into the ring. He wins the New Hampshire primary and sweeps the non-southern states on Super Tuesday. After clinching the nomination, Roosevelt selects Senator Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN) as his running mate. The GOP nominee Dick Thornburgh selects Rep. Bob Dornan (R-CA) as his running mate to appease conservatives.

In contrast to the oratory of Roosevelt and Gore, Thornburgh is an uninspiring campaigner and Dornan proves why he is reviled by the Democrats and liberals. Roosevelt wins a landslide victory and becomes the youngest POTUS at the age of 37. He serves from 1993-2001 and retires to his home outside of Boston. Bully!! His Presidential Library at Cambridge University opens to the public in 2005.

After a six year absence from politics, Mark Roosevelt is elected to the US Senate from Massachusetts and becomes the first former POTUS to be popularly elected to the Senate (He is a Roosevelt and he can do whatever he wants).
 
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