with any number of PODs make the folowing happen, in any way you think is most plausable;
the central powers win WWI
the war takes a huge tol on Germany and it begins to colapse economically
Austro-Hungarian Empire remains relatively stabile, althou its resources are streched to maintain peace in the newly aquired east european territories
Russia loses most eastern europe wich is split betveen Germany and Austro-Hungary, some parts becoming satelite puppet states, others coming under direct rule
Russia colapses like in OTL, revolution being iminent
in Russia combined German, British and A-H forces intervene and on he side of the whites but olnly a few regimes are set up, maintaining a puppet state in Belorusia, and a few other enclaves
most of what is left of the Russian empire becomes a federation of soviets, more or less like in OTL, but with much less territory in europe and kavkazus
A-H grows considerably, but this mostly causes problems
Ottoman empire keeps all territory and gets some of Africa and kavkasus territory, as well as parts of the balkans
France is moraly and economically beaten, and is forced to give ower Alsace and Loraine to Germany, but this does not help Germany much, and the money France is forced to pay is mostly misused or imbeseled in some bizare way involving high ranking German military and political figures, causing scandal in Germany and A-H
France develops similarly to OTL Italy, becoming fashist by 1930
Britain attempts to break even and is olnly made to give ower some colonies and pay a small amount of money
Britain develops into a much more militant, agressive empire
Germany and Austria get some colonies in Africa but other than north african ones they are porly conected and Fance and Britain actively sabotage them and support local guerilas
this causes first a series of smaller colonial conflicts, and then a decade or so after WWI a new european war, wich is mostly a much smaler rerun of the first one, with mainly France and Britain fighting Austria and Germany
Britain does better and gets back most colonies, as well as wining some back for France, wich acts to contain the conflict as much as possible, not having the strenght for a new war, but Germany and A-H are weak themselwes so the war is short
Germany is officially on the wining side, but is basically a loser, and begins to colapse as i OTL with inflation and political unrest
A-H starts in a similar way but is kept stabile by the rise of something alike to fashism along the italian model, olnly with a larger emfasis on police-state, apsolute rule of law no matter how apsurd and mountains and mountains of birocracy, with the church having a role similar to that in Spain, but more under state control
A-H economy is helped by development of close ties with the Ottoman empire, wich becomes a major exporter of oil, and a major market for A-H industrial products
Italy develops similarly to OTL, but is anti-austrian as Austria still holds some Italian territory, as well as parts of north africa that Italy considers its own
German monarchy falls, Germany becomes seriously unstabile, and A-H intervenes for fear of the unrest spreading
the monarchy is put back in power in Germany
A-H sucesfully uses a strategy of combined cultural hegemony, media controll, police terror, deportation, mass relocation, mass recruitment and religious propaganda to pacify the slavic poplation, which becomes the workhorse of its economy, and is slowly turned into a kind of universal imperial citisen, losing its language and ethnic identity
by 1945 theres a militarist fashist France, whos economy has rebound on war industry, similar to OTL Germany, olnly with a thing for huge tanks, on friendly terms with fashist Italy, which functions much as it has in OTL, and still with close relations with Britain, wich mintains its empire and builds a navy ewen larger and more powerfull than in OTL, to ensure wictory in any new colonial war, and a national fasination with military tehnology, with movements like the futurists springing up in England or being imported from friendly Italy, and all three states form an unofficiall aliance against A-H and Ottomans
A-H from mid 1920is to mid 1940 is undergoes imense industriall buildup, much of wich is the massive military-industrial complex
A-H army along with the Ottoman army, wich mainly uses imported A-H equipment bought with oil money or produced under consesion are considered the largest most formidable force on the planet
most of the industry is not privately owned, but owing to a large set of property laws compiled during the 1930is as an reactionary answer to leftist movement, at the same time attempting to increase the dominance of state administartion in the economy and minimise the influence of private owners, seen as a treath to state sovrenity, most property is owned by "legal persons" or birocratic entities wich are represented by "fisical persons" such as lawyers, and executive council members, wich basically answer olnly to the legal and political entities represented in turn by other higher ranking "fisical persons"
as such these people are wery powerfull and rich, but they do not actually own any of the sistem they administer, they are basically birocrats, wich alongside the military, and the church govern most of A-H in the name of the monarchy
the sistem is strangely hiper-birocratic, but individuall ambition and competition in the administrative class make it almoust efficient, as individuals are rewarded with positions and promotions based on estimated statistic performance, but this often has little to do with reality
this sistem is applied to most of central and east europe wich is ruled directly or indirectly by A-H, meaning said "legal" and "administrative" entities become imensly powerfull
by the 1950is the French-Britain-Italy aliance is building up its armies for two decades, and the Germans-A-H-Ottomans are doing the same
warious issues that have been left unsolved since the last war, and general animosity betveen he nations is pushing things thowards another war
what else... yes zepelins are in wide use for comertiall trawell and cargo transport
maybe someone might ad something more on the Ottomans in this TL, and the Japanese empire...for wich im to tired right now
sugestions on what happens with SSSR and Belorusia?
id make USA go isolationist but not necesarry
the central powers win WWI
the war takes a huge tol on Germany and it begins to colapse economically
Austro-Hungarian Empire remains relatively stabile, althou its resources are streched to maintain peace in the newly aquired east european territories
Russia loses most eastern europe wich is split betveen Germany and Austro-Hungary, some parts becoming satelite puppet states, others coming under direct rule
Russia colapses like in OTL, revolution being iminent
in Russia combined German, British and A-H forces intervene and on he side of the whites but olnly a few regimes are set up, maintaining a puppet state in Belorusia, and a few other enclaves
most of what is left of the Russian empire becomes a federation of soviets, more or less like in OTL, but with much less territory in europe and kavkazus
A-H grows considerably, but this mostly causes problems
Ottoman empire keeps all territory and gets some of Africa and kavkasus territory, as well as parts of the balkans
France is moraly and economically beaten, and is forced to give ower Alsace and Loraine to Germany, but this does not help Germany much, and the money France is forced to pay is mostly misused or imbeseled in some bizare way involving high ranking German military and political figures, causing scandal in Germany and A-H
France develops similarly to OTL Italy, becoming fashist by 1930
Britain attempts to break even and is olnly made to give ower some colonies and pay a small amount of money
Britain develops into a much more militant, agressive empire
Germany and Austria get some colonies in Africa but other than north african ones they are porly conected and Fance and Britain actively sabotage them and support local guerilas
this causes first a series of smaller colonial conflicts, and then a decade or so after WWI a new european war, wich is mostly a much smaler rerun of the first one, with mainly France and Britain fighting Austria and Germany
Britain does better and gets back most colonies, as well as wining some back for France, wich acts to contain the conflict as much as possible, not having the strenght for a new war, but Germany and A-H are weak themselwes so the war is short
Germany is officially on the wining side, but is basically a loser, and begins to colapse as i OTL with inflation and political unrest
A-H starts in a similar way but is kept stabile by the rise of something alike to fashism along the italian model, olnly with a larger emfasis on police-state, apsolute rule of law no matter how apsurd and mountains and mountains of birocracy, with the church having a role similar to that in Spain, but more under state control
A-H economy is helped by development of close ties with the Ottoman empire, wich becomes a major exporter of oil, and a major market for A-H industrial products
Italy develops similarly to OTL, but is anti-austrian as Austria still holds some Italian territory, as well as parts of north africa that Italy considers its own
German monarchy falls, Germany becomes seriously unstabile, and A-H intervenes for fear of the unrest spreading
the monarchy is put back in power in Germany
A-H sucesfully uses a strategy of combined cultural hegemony, media controll, police terror, deportation, mass relocation, mass recruitment and religious propaganda to pacify the slavic poplation, which becomes the workhorse of its economy, and is slowly turned into a kind of universal imperial citisen, losing its language and ethnic identity
by 1945 theres a militarist fashist France, whos economy has rebound on war industry, similar to OTL Germany, olnly with a thing for huge tanks, on friendly terms with fashist Italy, which functions much as it has in OTL, and still with close relations with Britain, wich mintains its empire and builds a navy ewen larger and more powerfull than in OTL, to ensure wictory in any new colonial war, and a national fasination with military tehnology, with movements like the futurists springing up in England or being imported from friendly Italy, and all three states form an unofficiall aliance against A-H and Ottomans
A-H from mid 1920is to mid 1940 is undergoes imense industriall buildup, much of wich is the massive military-industrial complex
A-H army along with the Ottoman army, wich mainly uses imported A-H equipment bought with oil money or produced under consesion are considered the largest most formidable force on the planet
most of the industry is not privately owned, but owing to a large set of property laws compiled during the 1930is as an reactionary answer to leftist movement, at the same time attempting to increase the dominance of state administartion in the economy and minimise the influence of private owners, seen as a treath to state sovrenity, most property is owned by "legal persons" or birocratic entities wich are represented by "fisical persons" such as lawyers, and executive council members, wich basically answer olnly to the legal and political entities represented in turn by other higher ranking "fisical persons"
as such these people are wery powerfull and rich, but they do not actually own any of the sistem they administer, they are basically birocrats, wich alongside the military, and the church govern most of A-H in the name of the monarchy
the sistem is strangely hiper-birocratic, but individuall ambition and competition in the administrative class make it almoust efficient, as individuals are rewarded with positions and promotions based on estimated statistic performance, but this often has little to do with reality
this sistem is applied to most of central and east europe wich is ruled directly or indirectly by A-H, meaning said "legal" and "administrative" entities become imensly powerfull
by the 1950is the French-Britain-Italy aliance is building up its armies for two decades, and the Germans-A-H-Ottomans are doing the same
warious issues that have been left unsolved since the last war, and general animosity betveen he nations is pushing things thowards another war
what else... yes zepelins are in wide use for comertiall trawell and cargo transport
maybe someone might ad something more on the Ottomans in this TL, and the Japanese empire...for wich im to tired right now
sugestions on what happens with SSSR and Belorusia?
id make USA go isolationist but not necesarry
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