AH: 860s CE PoD Ideas

France reintegrates the Kingdom of Arles due to it not recognizing its existence, Kingdom of Arles is a part of France that rebelled due to the Elder welfs rebelling against the King of France, France was able to regain it piece by piece later..
 
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What about Vikings win, but integrates with Saxon culture? Some Viking jarls learning English, literacy, that king of thing?
 
In OTL that mostly what happened. Old English and old Norse where not that different. the dialects of north eastern England are highly Norsified as is the vocabulary of modern English.
I would not be surprised if England has a pagan revival as this time the Vikings really win.
 
It has just been conquered by Pagan who will not need to become Christians. The English will probably stay Christian, but why would the Norse convert to the religion of the people they just beat?
 
It has just been conquered by Pagan who will not need to become Christians. The English will probably stay Christian, but why would the Norse convert to the religion of the people they just beat?

Okay, I am confused.

First you say there would be a "revival", and then you refer to just the Norse staying pagan (and I imagine they'd convert for the same reasons they converted outside the OTL Danelaw OTL).
 
First of all I should never write when really tired.
You have a semi reversal from OTL with the Norse having won. At this time most of the Norse were Pagan and many that weren't were eastern Orthodox.
There will be much less incentive for those who settle to convert even those who married with the English. I also think that there will be a much larger immigration. Socially the status of the Pagans will be higher than that of Christians.
As whenever there is a religious difference between groups with different social status, there will be some shift towards the religion of the higher status group.
 
As whenever there is a religious difference between groups with different social status, there will be some shift towards the religion of the higher status group.

When do we see Christians converting to paganism when under pagan rule?

Lithuania seems to have been more influenced by its subjects than vice-versa.
 
Most of the increase will be from children growing up in Pagan homes. I don't expect a large conversion. There will be some from people who think it will help them get ahead. In the case of mixed households i think it will depend on where on the Island they live and on how Christians are being treated. A big push to convert the pagans will probably cause a backlash.
In Lithuania the pagans lost out then the King or Grand duke converted to marry a Christian and enlarge his realm. Keeping the elite pagan will keep the people pagan.
 
Most of the increase will be from children growing up in Pagan homes. I don't expect a large conversion. There will be some from people who think it will help them get ahead. In the case of mixed households i think it will depend on where on the Island they live and on how Christians are being treated. A big push to convert the pagans will probably cause a backlash.
In Lithuania the pagans lost out then the King or Grand duke converted to marry a Christian and enlarge his realm. Keeping the elite pagan will keep the people pagan.

It might keep the existing pagans pagan, but I'm not seeing why the English are going to convert. Especially with a lack of incentive - its one thing when the rulers promote ______, but I'm not sure that wise Norse rulers would treat their mostly nonpagan subjects as second class citizens (more than the nonelite are by being nonelite, that is).
 
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