after WWI you buy a new fleet

I would probably start from fresh.

I want an overall approach of mobility, speed, evasion of standing battles, etc.

=Subs, faster and meaner the better

=Patrol boats, basically search and rescue/coast guard

=Landing marine-incursion craft

=I can has catamarans? how much of "my" knowledge do I get to use?
Because high-speed boats that skim atop the surface with armament fit to mess up anyone's day would be neat to have

=Artillery-boat, sole purpose is to move quickly into place and shell the crap out of a designated area, and then move out as quickly as feasible when the barrage is accomplished

=Mine-layers if we can reasonably expect naval attackers in a given area. Or, to accompany other ships so that mines can be deployed to discourage pursuit.

=Air-power dispersion boat, basically a long ship with some airplanes stored/stacked that can be launched off with a catapault. The more reasonable in size, the better, since I don't want these to be any more tempting as targets than necessary.

=For the merchant marine, freighters with "self-defense" measures, like (ample stores of) depth charges, you know, to combat "piracy."
 
modelcitizen said:
=I can has catamarans? how much of "my" knowledge do I get to use?
Because high-speed boats that skim atop the surface with armament fit to mess up anyone's day would be neat to have
This would be great, if combined with an RPV/V-1 type small missile.:cool:
modelcitizen said:
=Mine-layers if we can reasonably expect naval attackers in a given area. Or, to accompany other ships so that mines can be deployed to discourage pursuit.
Excellent choice.:cool::cool: I'd forgotten that.:eek: However, I'd prefer submarine minelayers.:cool:
modelcitizen said:
=For the merchant marine, freighters with "self-defense" measures, like (ample stores of) depth charges, you know, to combat "piracy."
You realize this puts them outside the protection of the cruiser rules? And so hostile subs can shoot them on sight...?:eek:
 

BlondieBC

Banned
You realize this puts them outside the protection of the cruiser rules? And so hostile subs can shoot them on sight...?:eek:

Technically, the Lusitania was also outside of protection. Lots of politics here. And IOTL, besides Japan, no one really followed merchant rules in WW2. Why would we expect merchant rules to be followed ITTL? Also, with Germany getting a draw, many will say the U-boats forced the UK to make a favorable peace and the U-boats defeated the dreadnoughts. Whether true or not is not important, it is the beliefs that will drive purchasing.
 
Assuming we're talking 250000t standard and that anything laid down up to 1919 goes:
2 Kongo BC
2 Hermes CVL
8 D Cruisers
8 GTB1916 (S113) DD
24 W DD
24 Hunt MSW
24 Conquerant PB
24 S (USA) SSK
24 UBIII SSK
4 Leaf OR


BUMP. I think this thread died too soon. Fantasy navy league anyone?;)
 
I'd add a bit but it's a bit early for the Irish Free State to have a navy. Stretch it to a few years later an maybe a half a dozen MineSweepers up to 20 depending on which plan the Free State agreed to.

Not sexy but just trying to keep the thread going.
 
Excellent choice.:cool::cool: I'd forgotten that.:eek: However, I'd prefer submarine minelayers.:cool:
1. Thank you!

2. Submarines can lay mines......

THAT IS EVIL! :)

(Sweeeeeet.)


You realize this puts them outside the protection of the cruiser rules? And so hostile subs can shoot them on sight...?:eek:
I reckon if one's fighting someone like the Germans, then all bets might be off... I was probably thinking of a way of shipping with protection on the cheap?



This would be great, if combined with an RPV/V-1 type small missile.:cool:

I had to look that up.

WORTH THE EFFORT!

I had no idea remote-control weaponry was so within reach at that time. (Nay, in use, damn.)



Below, stuff you might already know, but, I had no idea.

This has some jaw-dropping stuff, http://gizmodo.com/5181576/unmanned-warbots-of-wwi-and-wwii I'll just make a PDF of it and attach it in case the link goes poof [ixnay, PDF file too big]; article included links http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/hargrave/rpav_britain.html and http://en.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enwiki/147397


http://www.pbs.org/tesla/ins/lab_remotec.html

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A Revolutionary Demonstration
[/FONT] [FONT=arial, helvetica] In Madison Square Garden, at the Electrical Exhibition of 1898, Tesla staged a scientific tour de force, a demonstration completely beyond the generally accepted limits of technology. His invention, covered in patent No. 613,809 (1898), took the form of a radio-controlled boat, a heavy, low-lying, steel craft about four feet long. Inasmuch as radio hadn't been officially patented yet (Tesla's basic radio patent was filed in September 1897, but granted in March 1900), examiners from the US Patent Office were reluctant to recognize improbable claims made in the application "Method of and Apparatus for Controlling Mechanism of Moving Vessels or Vehicles." Confronted with a working model, however, examiners quickly issued approval.
In fact, Tesla had been walking around New York City since 1895 picking up radio signals generated in various high-frequency experiments; he had received them as far as thirty miles away, at West Point. With the invention or improvement of several more control elements, he was able in short time to put them to use.
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The Boat
[/FONT] [FONT=arial, helvetica] Tesla's tublike craft powered itself; there were several large batteries on board. Radio signals controlled switches, which energized the boat's propeller, rudder, and scaled-down running lights—simple enough in concept, but quite difficult to accomplish with existing devices. Even registering the arrival of a radio signal pulse taxed the rudimentary technology. Tesla invented a new kind of coherer (a radio-activated switch) for this purpose, essentially a canister with a little metal oxide powder in it. The powder orients itself in the presence of an electromagnetic field, like radio waves, and becomes conductive. If the canister is flipped over, after the pulse's passage, the powder is restored to a random, nonconductive state.
Tesla contrived for a number of things to happen when the coherer conducted, most importantly for a disk bearing several differently organized sets of contacts to advance itself one step. Thus, if the contacts had previously connected the combination "right rudder/propeller forward full/light off," the next step might combine "rudder center/propeller stop/lights on." And with the aid of a few levers, gears, springs, and motors all would be accomplished, including a final step, flipping the coherer over so that it was ready to receive the next instruction.
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Applications
[/FONT] [FONT=arial, helvetica] The world of 1898 had little understanding or use for Tesla's brilliant idea. Though he rather darkly imagined a military clamor for such things as radio-guided torpedoes, government interest did not materialize. (In one of history's curious footnotes, Tesla's good friend Mark Twain wrote immediately to say he was anxious to represent Tesla in the sale of this "destructive terror which you have been inventing" to England and Germany.) The navy did finance some trials in 1916, but the money went to one of Tesla's competitors. He remarked bitterly he could find no listeners until his patent had expired.
Tesla's fears (and Twain's business hopes) were misplaced. The world's military establishments discovered many destructive terrors, but radio-controlled devices didn't number among them in any significant way until late in the twentieth century, with refinements in rocketry and guided bombs. Radio control remained a novelty, an exciting field for experimentalists and specialists, until the launching of the Space Age and the orbiting of myriad commercial and military satellites, all under remote control.
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BlondieBC

Banned
1. Thank you!

2. Submarines can lay mines......

The Germans built an entire UB class to do just that. Post war, navies tend to develop mines that can work out of horizontal tubes so you get more flexible ships. One patrol you lay mines, the next you sink ships. Or you do a mix load. Lay a few mines to cause issues then if you come across a juicy target, you can still have a shot at it.
 
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