After America

PipBoy2999

Banned
Just finished After America. Overall, I liked it; it kept me entertained. Disappointed that I now have to wait another two years for the next book.

I'm not convinced that the East Coast would be as lawless and prone to piracy/looting. I would have expected the US 6th Fleet and the Atlantic fleet to have remained pretty much in place, and with that much firepower God help any unfriendly hand that reaches out to grab a chunk of US territory.

I thought the Texas quasi-rebellion interesting and rather troublesome. I'd like to think that Americans are better than that, but then again, America did some pretty horrible things to the folks that lived here the first time around too.

Pity about the Rhino and Jules though, seems they just can never catch a break.
 
Did he remember that Puerto Rico exists this time? (and if so, say how they felt about being left out of the decisionmaking process during the first year)
 

PipBoy2999

Banned
There's a mention about naval assets deploying from PR to interdict pirates in the Atlantic. That's about it.
 
There's a mention about naval assets deploying from PR to interdict pirates in the Atlantic. That's about it.

Its amazing just how much Birmingham ignores like 3/4ths of the US. I mean in both books we get at most two sentences detailing what's happening the US outside of Washington State.
 

PipBoy2999

Banned
No, AA has very limited Washington State scenes. Most of the Federal government seems to have relocated to Kansas City (Good choice there I thought).

Action takes place in New York and in Texas.

I do think he's overstaffed the military though. He's talking about the 101 and 82nd Airborne, but as I recall, both units were Stateside at the start of Iraqi Freedom. 3rd Infantry was in Kuwait and 4th was standing off Turkey and 2nd Armor was in Germany.
 
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I kinda found the book a snore fest.

The Texas plot's too cliched for me. Not only does Birmingham set it in an area that's stereotyped as bigot land(now days), he makes the bigot a military man. The evil military man thing's used too much in my opinion. How many juntas have we had so far? Heck how many ex-generals of the U.S. army have we had as president? 2 I think.

The New York plot also left me disinterested. I could give a rat's ass about knocking the city flat. Yes losing sovereignty would be bad, but knocking the city flat, ho hum. This b.s. of NYC being the be all, end all of the U.S. annoys the heck out of me. What, the west, mid-west and south don't exist? Sheesh. Bomb it and move on.

The two from the yacht. Skimmed those chapters in the first book and thought we heard the last of them. Not much interested in them this time around either.

The ex-spy. Well thought she was interesting in the first book, but now that she's in from the cold, not so interesting. Her plot line seemed contrived to keep her in the story. Only interested me because she's based in England which got glossed over in the first book.

The jihad junior plot also left me yawning. Not sure his purpose in the first place anyway. He blowed up real good though.

As for Pres. Kipper, not used for effect this time. Nice tour of K.C. though. Not much going on with him that really caught my interest.

Things that should have been explored that might have been interesting:

The jewish jihad: I was disappointed that the aftermath of this never got explored beyond the guys behind the new "holy land" in NYC. Not sure what self-respecting Muslim would abandon the holy peninsula for NYC in the first place anyway.

The Indo-Pakistani nuke war. Got a throwaway line in the book, but I think the course of the war would have been interesting to explore.

The Russian nuke fest. Also got a throwaway line in the book, but again should have been explored. Who put the bug up Russia's ass enough to get them to lob some nukes at them? Heck what ex-ssr would even risk putting the Russian's back to the wall or annoy them enough to get a nuke thrown against them. Chechens maybe I guess.

The rise of the South American Federation. Another item just thrown out there to tantalize the imagination. How the heck did the new jefe throw that together in 3 years. Heck Chavez been trying to do that for a long time now and hasn't even gotten close. And getting Brazil to buy in? At first I thought Brazil was arming to protect itself from the SAF.

China. What's going on there other than food problems. No move toward Taiwan? Tempted to take out Korea? Tempted to head north and have a showdown with the CIS?

Japan. What about them? No temptations to grab back the Sakhalin islands. The Philippine islands just sitting there looking pretty. They're taunting you Japan. Korea needs to be put in its place too. Now that cat's gone, time to play with the mice.

Not sure really what went wrong in this book. Maybe too much character exploration and not enough sweeping events. I like the new Polish guy though.

Oh one last thing before my usual lurking. Why abandon D.C.? I mean if anything's symbolic of the U.S., the capital has to be it. I would think that rebuilding the capital would be a national focus beyond survival.

I probably would have sent troops there in the first few months after the wave left just to secure the cultural treasures there. Wouldn't the Pentagon have some top secret info that we might not want the world to get their hands on? Who knows, maybe the secret to the wave is buried in one of the sub-basements in the Pentagon.
 
Japan. What about them? No temptations to grab back the Sakhalin islands. The Philippine islands just sitting there looking pretty. They're taunting you Japan. Korea needs to be put in its place too. Now that cat's gone, time to play with the mice.

The Republic of Japan just isn't as interesting as the Empire. The Republic is too busy making anime or giant robots and being smashed by Godzilla.
 
Huh. So what exactly is the state of the world then? Total shit-fuck? I mean from what I can gather from Amazon its like 600 million dead in the middle east and surrounding areas (is that even possible?) and 200 million dead in the subcontinent. Plus a few nukes from Russia and the 300-400 million gone from North America. And Europe sounds like its pretty crappy too? Total economic collapse in even Germany and France seems gone and the UK is a paranoid police state (whats new...:p) ?
 
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