Affiliated States of Boreoamerica thread

A map of the subdivisions of Acadia: shires of New Scotland, territories of West Acadia, and counties of St. John's Island. East Acadia doesn't have any county-size divisions, only the township-sized arrondissements, but the three broad physical divisions have some legal significance and are shown here. The map happened partly in collaboration with @Gian .

All of the county-sized divisions arose as amalgamations of local villages and districts. Acadia's localities were definitively mapped in a massive surveying project that began in the 1810s and continued for decades. Its purpose was to finally define the jurisdictions of Acadia and New Scotland, which had become hopelessly jumbled after a century or more of administrative neglect. Grouping the localities into larger administrative units began once firm borders were drawn between the states in the late 1830s. Localities that had no reason to be so grouped, namely Sable and Grand Manan Islands in New Scotland, remained separated.

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A map of the subdivisions of Acadia: shires of New Scotland, territories of West Acadia, and counties of St. John's Island. East Acadia doesn't have any county-size divisions, only the township-sized arrondissements, but the three broad physical divisions have some legal significance and are shown here. The map happened partly in collaboration with @Gian .

All of the county-sized divisions arose as amalgamations of local villages and districts. Acadia's localities were definitively mapped in a massive surveying project that began in the 1810s and continued for decades. Its purpose was to finally define the jurisdictions of Acadia and New Scotland, which had become hopelessly jumbled after a century or more of administrative neglect. Grouping the localities into larger administrative units began once firm borders were drawn between the states in the late 1830s. Localities that had no reason to be so grouped, namely Sable and Grand Manan Islands in New Scotland, remained separated.

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I see one county of New Hampshire that's separated from the state. Otherwise, this looks good.
 
I see one county of New Hampshire that's separated from the state. Otherwise, this looks good.

To quote an earlier history post:
As part of a final border agreement with New Hampshire, France desired to fortify Nashwaak on the St. John’s River. In doing so it had to displace a few Acadian farmers already living there. Furious, they left that spot and moved a few dozen miles upriver to Madawaska. There they tried to establish an independent republic, resisting control by both Acadia and Canada. Eventually the Madawaskans chose to become part of New Hampshire.

It's a TTL-ification of the Republic of Madawaska.
 
The OTL United States has quite a few states that were proposed but never ended up coming into existence, does the ASB have any?
 
The OTL United States has quite a few states that were proposed but never ended up coming into existence, does the ASB have any?

Good question! Stillborn states can be found scattered all over the map. Maybe not as many as in OTL, since the states here in TTL developed much more slowly and organically. Creating a state was not as simple as drawing a line and declaring it so. But there are definitely a few states that didn't make it.

The Upper Country is a big, composite state, many of whose constituents at one time had ambitions of statehood. Ashkany discussed it but never had a serious chance. It was too dependent on Detroit both economically and militarily to survive on its own. Sanduskey discussed it a lot more, stretching over many years. It was created as an English loyalist enclave, but as the Upper Country consolidated its state government, diehard loyalists resisted and wanted to break away. There was a serious statehood movement into at least the 1930s and a less serious one that survives to the present day. Kekionga had a a point c. 1810 where it had to decide between being part of Ohio, part of the Upper Country, or a state of its own. It decided in favor of Upper Country membership under pressure from diplomats in the east. Mesabi made the same choice eighty years later. Like Sanduskey, it had many people who wanted to be a separate English dominion. This movement collapsed when England failed to support it.

Like the Upper Country, Ohio is composed of disparate territories bound together by treaty. Somewhere right now in the ASB, some people in an alternate history community are complaining that they're tired of timelines where the Ohio Alliance falls apart, because the maps are always the same: the three provinces along the river go to Upper Virginia; Wea and Vincennes go to Illinois; the Forks and Mühlenberg go to Allegheny; Youngstown goes to Upper Connecticut; and the rest are all states of their own, usually with Silvana and East Muskingum merged back into a single state of Muskingum. It's an AH cliche in this world because it's a very plausible course that history could have taken, though the amateur mapmakers usually forget that such a world would inevitably have involved a lot more wars and therefore different borders.

Though it's much smaller, Poutaxia was formed in a similar way from pieces that had connections to other states. If Poutaxia had not been set off as a neutral state, most of it would certainly have been divided up among Pennsylvania, Iroquoia, and New Netherland. That area in the middle, however, was actually a New England enclave. There was definitely a possibility for it to become a separate state of Wyoming before Poutaxia's state government was really consolidated.

The state of Transylvania existed in TTL and left its mark on the map of Upper Virginia. The treatment of the Transylvania settlers mirrors in some ways that of indigenous people in OTL (though without the raw genocide): they were confined to smaller and smaller territories and eventually they were annexed with vague promises of autonomy that never really panned out. The city of Transylvania (OTL Henderson, Kentucky) served as the last capital of the not-quite-state before it was fully absorbed. The area around it is still called the Transylvania Reserve. You can see how it's at the western end of the state because its loyal citizens were pushed out of their original settlements in what is now central Upper Virginia.

As mentioned above, Madawaska sought something like statehood, but in the end had to look to New Hampshire for protection. There was also a still more short-lived attempt to create a version of the Republic of Indian Stream. The land in question simply passed from New Hampshire to Canada. A much bigger deal were the districts of New Hampshire, which evolved from separate colonies. In the era around the Wars of Independence, New Somersetshire and New Cornwall strongly considered becoming states of their own. New Hampshire under General Dearborn deftly handled the situation, deploying political and military strategies that kept the northeastern districts connected to the state.

In northern Illinois, the Sac-Fox nation had ambitions of an independent statehood at one time, but it never had firm control of its territory. It had little choice but to ally itself with Illinois to prevent encroachments by the Upper Country.

A lot of people in Long Island want to be a state. It's a perennial issue. The movement has both loyalist and republican branches, and disagreement between them is one of the major things that blocks the question from really moving forward.

Outside the present boundaries of the ASB, there are some possibilities as well. Rupertsland had a close relationship with the confederation in its early days. It actually participated in many of the embryonic Confederal Institutions, but drew back as they became more permanent. This is part of the story of how Assiniboia separated from Rupertsland to become a state. The three Plains republics, Lakotah, Punkah and Omaha, also were possible states; international treaties with England and Mexico prevented this from happening. Puerto Rico and Jamaica look like obvious candidates simply because of their location; their membership was discussed but was never a serious possibility. They never participated in the confederal institutions in any meaningful way.

Overseas, there are a few Outlying Territories, islands that were colonized by individual states in the early part of the 19th century. Of these I think we only know about the Falklands, but there are probably others in the Pacific. Many in the Falklands would like to become a state, and the movement seems to be picking up steam.
 
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Speaking of Rupertsland, has more been done on that? I know it's been a question mark for a while.

In order for it to be a viable self-governed region, there would have to be large amounts of settlement to the Prairies. However, where would these settlers come from? Settlers from England would have to go through the ASB, or they would have to go through Hudson Bay, the latter of which wasn't properly mapped or connected by rail IOTL until the 1910s and didn't admit non-commercial passengers until the 1930s. Settlers from the ASB would need permission from England, which comes with it the risk of Rupertsland being populated with pro-statehood agitators. That leaves settlers from Mexico and Oregon, and those people are significantly different from traditional Rupertslanders and would risk another Assiniboia happening. All this points to a relatively late settlement of Rupertsland's prairie region.

Here's my take: Assiniboia was connected by rail to both the ASB and Rupertsland after it became a state around 1898. At that time, the Rupertsland government was populated mainly by the descendants of loyalist Metis, HBC magnates, and only as many native chiefs as was necessary to keep the peace. They wanted to be able to counterbalance the ASB in the plains area, but they just didn't have the manpower to even survey the territory, let alone settle it. England passed legislation allowing people from New England to enter and settle in Rupertsland, but their numbers were little more than a modest trickle, and many would-be settlers went back to their homes. With fur becoming less lucrative, England was ready to write the whole territory off.
At around that time, California's settlers reached the northern limit of the country's territory, but there were still more settlers looking for cheap land. At the same time, England developed a rapport with the Commonwealth. Subsequently, in the 1910s and 1920s, the prairies were settled by a mixture of Hispano-Californian and Anglo-Californian settlers, along with the eclectic mix of Oregonians. As all this is happening, the ASB begins to coordinate the various state-level law enforcement agencies, leading to many criminals and others with checkered pasts crossing the border into eastern Rupertsland illegally, as England simply didn't have the manpower to root them out and send them back. The Anglican Church had also been busily converting plains natives into good Anglicans, so these groups became more included as well.
Rupertsland gained full self-government sometime in the mid-20th century. Almost immediately, it reorganized itself into a federal structure so that the disparate parts could actually function.
In modern times, Rupertsland has the following federal divisions:

East - OTL Nord-du-Quebec - Mostly French-speaking descendants of ASB settlers on the run from the law. Reliant on mining, love guns because none of your damn business; they have an independent streak but they've also made mocking the ASB a regional sport so they aren't leaving Rupertia or England any time soon.
Hudson Bay - OTL northern Ontario and Manitoba - Mostly English-speaking descendants of English military and commercial personnel who for some reason decided that the Hudson Bay coast was a nice place to live. Love guns because many of them served in the military, and also love trucks because they provide the best protection from moose and polar bears. Reliant on fishing and trade, .
Lake - The whole border region with Upper Country, referring to OTL Lake Winnipeg. - Mostly French and English-speaking Metis descended from loyalists and New Englander settlers, this region is the old center of Rupertian government. Other Rupertslanders view them as snooty, which means non-Rupertslanders consider them bearable. They only mildly like guns.
Cree - OTL western Manitoba and Saskatchewan - Mostly Cree natives. Probably the least traditionalist natives; they often speak Cree and English with an accent that they think sounds distinguished but others consider sort of silly. Love guns for hunting. Lakers call them poseurs.
Nunavut - OTL Nunavut and NWT - Inuit who never actually declared allegiance to the King; one day some men on a boat came by and just told them HM was in charge. Poor, traditionalist, and don't particularly like the rest of the country but don't see a viable alternative. Not big on guns, but love harpoons.
Cordillera - OTL southern Alberta - region populated by Californian-descended settlers. Has attracted Californian refugees from dictatorial and conflict-affected states, which is probably the main political controversy in the country, fracking being only controversial outside Rupertsland. Love guns because they figure California is about to invade to steal their oil.
Saskatchewan - OTL southern Saskatchewan - region populated mostly by converted "Anglican" natives. Fiercely religious, they didn't 100% get what the missionaries told them and now they follow a syncretic religion where the English Monarch is literally some sort of god. They were very close to seceding when Rupertsland was given self-government. Love guns because everyone else seems to.

Overall, Rupertslanders consider themselves strong individualists, proud loyalists, pious worshippers (of whatever sect), rough-and-tumble countrymen, more honest and friendly than anyone else, the best Portball* players, and screw those damn Loulous**!

*Literally, "Carry-ball." A national variant of whatever rugby-like game is popular in the ASB, but with more fistfights. Is not widely played outside Rupertsland.
**Pejorative term referring to Boreoamericans. During the rebellion, the stereotype was that loyalists were often named Jean and rebels were often named Louis, so mocking nicknames were invented: Jeannou and Loulou, respectively.
 
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Speaking of Rupertsland, has more been done on that? I know it's been a question mark for a while.

Here's a recap of what we already know. I think it meshes quite well with what you've written.

That's right, and even the North America that I shared has states that are not part of anything bigger. Rupertsland and Lakotah are examples of more centralized states. Rupertsland is probably federalized, but isn't particularly "weird" compared to federations in our own timeline.

So it's a federal state. Its internal divisions hadn't been explored before, but I assumed they would be pretty big, like Canadian provinces, and your list corresponds to that idea.

I'm interested in what the Dominion of Rupertsland is like. From the name, I presume it has a similar status to OTL Canada prior to its complete independence from the United Kingdom?

Rupertsland's a huge country, but its only good area for farming and inhabitation (the Prairies around OTL Alberta, Idaho, Saskatchewan, and Montana) is a long way from the sea and must be very difficult for Britain to govern.

There'll probably be some ports on Hudson Bay, e.g. OTL Churchill and Moose Factory; will ports on Hudson Bay be more important in TTL? I think they have to be due to Rupertsland's unfortunate geographical position. Churchill could serve as Rupertsland's primary port, with a road to TTL's equivalents of Edmonton and Calgary.

Rupertsland seems to be in a rather unique geographical position, and no OTL countries are quite like it. So I'm interested in its development. Did most immigrants to Rupertsland arrive from the ASB in the east, or from Oregon in the west, or directly from Britain via Hudson Bay? Or are most Rupertslanders indigenous?

By now it's fully independent. So it's like Canada or any of the other Commonwealth Realms.

I was very careful to draw the map so that Rupertsland includes that belt of land; IMO that is the only way to make it viable as a country. Rupertsland's origins are in the communities of workers for the Hudson's Bay Company. A great many of them were French speaking Metis who came from Canada and the Upper Country. Their work took them far beyond the reach of Canadian authority, and there was some mixing and interacting with settlers from England and Ireland; by the second quarter of the 1800s the Rupertslandians (?) had emerged as a distinct culture on the prairies. A great many were loyal subjects of the company-colony. The villages of Assiniboia, adjacent to the ASB, had the strongest links back east, and this was the part that at some point rebelled and became a state. That more or less purged the separatist element, and the next large settlement movement of Rupertslandians, in the Montana-Saskachewan region you described, was made up largely of loyalists. The settlements there became the nucleus of the modern state and the driving force behind its reorientation from a colony focused on exploiting the resources to a distinct civil society.

Unfortunate is right. From the moment the first railroad was built, the most active ports for Rupertsland's trade have been on the West Coast. Protectionist policies have promoted the use of the Bay ports, but they just aren't practical for most purposes due to ice and the rugged intervening terrain. The majority of its trade goes through Oregon or California.

The original population was made up of Metis from the Francophone ASB and English immigrants. There was a lot of cultural interchange between them and the indigenous people of the prairies. Their numbers were later augmented by other immigrants, especially from various parts of the ASB. The big northern lands are majority indigenous today, but the population centers are not.

This was the longest Rupertsland post until yours. Based on what you wrote, I think you probably saw it, but I just want to draw attention to it. That West Coast orientation is the most important point here. That may look difficult because of Oregon, but it's important to repeat the point that Oregon was not and never was a Russian colony. It was a compromise entity created to peacefully govern a region of complex and overlapping powers, not unlike the ASB. Except in the case of Oregon the Tsar was able to position himself as guarantor of the peace, at least in part by credibly making the claim that he would interfere less in local affairs than England, Mexico, or the ASB would. But for the English to accept this arrangement without a fight, they needed certain concessions, and unimpeded rail access to the Prairies was and still is by far the most important of these concessions.

The Assiniboia revolt was a wakeup call to Rupertsland's governing authorities. If we don't Do Something, this will just keep happening. This meant striking a balance between empowering the people already there, and bringing in people who would stay loyal. I think your list basically follows that dynamic.

We also shouldn't forget the Icelandic community:
that part of Lake Winnipeg was outside the boundaries of Assiniboia even when it was still a colony. The northern border of Assiniboia is a bit to the south of the OTL border... maybe that's precisely because the area was heavily Icelandic and not sympathetic to the rebellion.

That could be a logical explanation as to why the Assiniboian border shifted, as the Icelanders might not be keen on a Métis-dominated state (especially once it starts alienating the English in Mesabi to the point where they up sticks and join the Upper Country)
 
This was the longest Rupertsland post until yours. Based on what you wrote, I think you probably saw it, but I just want to draw attention to it. That West Coast orientation is the most important point here. That may look difficult because of Oregon, but it's important to repeat the point that Oregon was not and never was a Russian colony. It was a compromise entity created to peacefully govern a region of complex and overlapping powers, not unlike the ASB. Except in the case of Oregon the Tsar was able to position himself as guarantor of the peace, at least in part by credibly making the claim that he would interfere less in local affairs than England, Mexico, or the ASB would. But for the English to accept this arrangement without a fight, they needed certain concessions, and unimpeded rail access to the Prairies was and still is by far the most important of these concessions.
You're right in that I did see it, but I did forget to emphasize its westward orientation, and I suppose I'm still not clear on how Oregon works as an entity. The bit about the Lakes region being the former center of government was part of that - the new center of government would be in the prairie regions near a town that started its life as a rail hub between Oregon, California, and the rest of the continent.

I based parts of the history that I wrote on the real-life history of Alberta and the other prairie provinces, with some necessary changes due to the country's unique situation.
Beyond the Icelandic community, there were dozens of "block settlements" where ethnic groups were sent to settle together. This was a compromise between factions that wanted immigrants to be close to existing Canadians so as to assimilate them, and factions that didn't want to live near foreigners: Basically, the blocks were large enough that they could make functional, ethnically-homogeneous communities, but small and scattered enough that they wouldn't be able to coalesce into coherent regional groups. The central government also sent English teachers to those settlements and implemented mandatory education policies to Canadianize them. This became a problem in the 1950s and 1960s when some of the Russian groups refused to send their children to these schools, and the children were then rounded up and sent to detention facilities by the RCMP.

This reflects a recurring trend in the history of the plains states that would be absent here: The imposition of policies from the East, serving the interests of the East, upon the West. Rupertsland does not have the comparatively massive population base that Canada did - back-of-the-envelope math puts the 1890 population of Rupertsland at around 40,000, not counting unassimilated natives. Said natives would probably represent around 100,000 people, if we're generous. IOTL, the settler population would grow to around 300,000 by 1900, but there's no central Canadian government or visa-free railway to serve as a convenient source of immigrants here. Loyalist ASB states could make up a decent portion, but only if the government of Assiniboia allowed them to transit through.

Since the major port access in Rupertsland is through Oregon, that means that any immigration to western Rupertsland must go through Oregon, and therefore the natural source of immigration to western Rupertsland is from Pacific coast countries - Oregon (obviously), Mexico, whatever we have in South America, and East Asia.
 
First I need to apologize for barely commenting on the content of what you wrote, which is of course hilarious and charming. I'm currently trying to maintain enough focus to finish writing a post of my own so I can move on with what I have to do this weekend. :)

I based parts of the history that I wrote on the real-life history of Alberta and the other prairie provinces, with some necessary changes due to the country's unique situation.
Beyond the Icelandic community, there were dozens of "block settlements" where ethnic groups were sent to settle together. This was a compromise between factions that wanted immigrants to be close to existing Canadians so as to assimilate them, and factions that didn't want to live near foreigners: Basically, the blocks were large enough that they could make functional, ethnically-homogeneous communities, but small and scattered enough that they wouldn't be able to coalesce into coherent regional groups. The central government also sent English teachers to those settlements and implemented mandatory education policies to Canadianize them. This became a problem in the 1950s and 1960s when some of the Russian groups refused to send their children to these schools, and the children were then rounded up and sent to detention facilities by the RCMP.

This reflects a recurring trend in the history of the plains states that would be absent here: The imposition of policies from the East, serving the interests of the East, upon the West. Rupertsland does not have the comparatively massive population base that Canada did - back-of-the-envelope math puts the 1890 population of Rupertsland at around 40,000, not counting unassimilated natives. Said natives would probably represent around 100,000 people, if we're generous. IOTL, the settler population would grow to around 300,000 by 1900, but there's no central Canadian government or visa-free railway to serve as a convenient source of immigrants here. Loyalist ASB states could make up a decent portion, but only if the government of Assiniboia allowed them to transit through.

OK, that's a really good argument for having big differences here and not including the Icelanders. And it's a warning against simply importing neat-sounding ideas that wouldn't fit the overall dynamic. I never knew a thing about that aspect of Prairies history.

As for transit of ASB citizens into Rupertsland, I can't imagine that Assiniboia (or any state government) would be able to interfere with that. It might bother some people why anyone would want to move into Rupertsland, but not enough to turn it into a political issue, I don't think. And that's what it would take - a state government on its own would not be able to restrict people's freedom of movement, certainly not by the 20th century which is basically when we're talking about. That would have to be a confederal action, and I just don't see it as very likely.

Since the major port access in Rupertsland is through Oregon, that means that any immigration to western Rupertsland must go through Oregon, and therefore the natural source of immigration to western Rupertsland is from Pacific coast countries - Oregon (obviously), Mexico, whatever we have in South America, and East Asia.

Definitely true.
 
As for transit of ASB citizens into Rupertsland, I can't imagine that Assiniboia (or any state government) would be able to interfere with that. It might bother some people why anyone would want to move into Rupertsland, but not enough to turn it into a political issue, I don't think. And that's what it would take - a state government on its own would not be able to restrict people's freedom of movement, certainly not by the 20th century which is basically when we're talking about. That would have to be a confederal action, and I just don't see it as very likely.

Ah, okay. In my headcanon transit rights were theoretically in place in the early 19th century but very dependent on the cooperation of state governments until the early-mid 20th century, when an act of parliament would formally put it solely on the Confederal government, vaguely mirroring the OTL interstate commerce clause. In that sort of dynamic, Assiniboia would have the right to refuse transit rights to passengers. However, it makes more sense for that question to already be settled in 1900, since the railroads would have required that in order to be built at all.

In that case, we could use OTL history to get some estimates as to how many New Englanders might be tempted to move to the Rupertian prairies.

In OTL, Canada's population in 1901 was 5.4 million, while the region corresponding to Loyalist New England and Newfoundland (which I think are the only Loyalist areas in the ASB) is around 1.8 million. That's exactly a 3:1 ratio.
However, many of those migrants were actually immigrants. Between 1901 and 1911, Canada's population grew from 5.4 million to 7.3 million, with about half of that growth being from immigration. In that same period, the population of the prairie states increased by 800,000; Saskatchewan and Alberta's populations more than quintupled over that period. I can't imagine a large number of settled, established Canadians picking up and going homesteading, so I figure a plurality, or a majority, perhaps the vast majority, of settlers must have been immigrants.

This introduces a complication, as getting immigrants to settle would necessarily require the ASB or Oregon to agree to allow all of these immigrants in, if only on a temporary basis. The only reason I can think of that would make the ASB agree to this would be if England agreed to give them special privileges vis-a-vis the eventual transcontinental railroad.

All of this brings us to: When is that railroad going to be built?

In OTL, the Canada Pacific Railway was only completed because British Columbia wouldn't join Canada unless Canada promised to build it; the rail companies didn't think it was feasible to build in uninhabited regions. It was proposed in 1871, started in 1880, and finished in 1885. The Pacific Scandal in 1873 actually derailed the project (har har) because the Conservatives took bribes from the original Canadian Pacific Railway Company that was tied to American investment, and many Canadians felt that letting the US influence the railway would pave the way for a US-dominated Canada. In TTL, the railway between the east and west coast would have necessarily been a joint venture between Britain, Oregon, the Commonwealth (even if the Tsar's involvement amounts to a rubber stamp, although I think he'd have an interest in connecting Christana to said railroad) , and the ASB. Rupertsland and Oregon would likely consider this venture to be an absolute requirement for their continued existence and prosperity, but the other players might not see it being quite as important. I can see this project lasting well into the 1900s and maybe even the 1910s, or I could see it being the start of an era of cooperation between the powers and finished relatively early.

Also, was there an existing transcontinental railroad going through Mexico from California's time under ASB influence?
 
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Speaking of Rupertsland, has more been done on that? I know it's been a question mark for a while.

In order for it to be a viable self-governed region, there would have to be large amounts of settlement to the Prairies. However, where would these settlers come from? Settlers from England would have to go through the ASB, or they would have to go through Hudson Bay, the latter of which wasn't properly mapped or connected by rail IOTL until the 1910s and didn't admit non-commercial passengers until the 1930s.

Actually... if we look at the OTL settlement of this region, people arrived via Hudson Bay as long ago as 1811.
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_River_Colony#Settling_Red_River

"In July 1811 Miles Macdonell sailed from Yarmouth, England to the Hudson's Bay post at York Factory with 36 primarily Irish and Scottish settlers."

So it looks like, at first at least, the Red River Colony IOTL got at least some of its settlers coming via Hudson Bay. My expectation would be that in the event of it being the only possible route in Rupertsland to access the prairies, York Factory would get a rail connection to the prairies, or at least a reliable land/river route for settlers.

I made a quick Google Maps edit to show what I think the Rupertsland road network might look by the present day ITTL:
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Ah, okay. In my headcanon transit rights were theoretically in place in the early 19th century but very dependent on the cooperation of state governments until the early-mid 20th century, when an act of parliament would formally put it solely on the Confederal government, vaguely mirroring the OTL interstate commerce clause. In that sort of dynamic, Assiniboia would have the right to refuse transit rights to passengers. However, it makes more sense for that question to already be settled in 1900, since the railroads would have required that in order to be built at all.

Freedom of trade and movement was one of the original core principles behind the Confederal Institutions. It's maybe not quite as bedrock as "no taxation without representation" in US history, but it's pretty dang close. Even in the early era when states still were calling up their militias to fight one another, they were not interfering in merchants' rights to move, other than levying tolls within legal limits. (And transgressing those legal limits was a sure way to provoke nearby states to call up their militias.)

In that case, we could use OTL history to get some estimates as to how many New Englanders might be tempted to move to the Rupertian prairies.

In OTL, Canada's population in 1901 was 5.4 million, while the region corresponding to Loyalist New England and Newfoundland (which I think are the only Loyalist areas in the ASB) is around 1.8 million. That's exactly a 3:1 ratio.

Carolina was Loyalist until 1903, and it cast off the monarchy largely because many Whites objected to the Crown's promotion of civil rights. I can imagine England offering generous terms to Black Carolians looking for opportunities in a less racist land. That could be a really interesting dynamic, both pre- and post-1903.

This introduces a complication, as getting immigrants to settle would necessarily require the ASB or Oregon to agree to allow all of these immigrants in, if only on a temporary basis. The only reason I can think of that would make the ASB agree to this would be if England agreed to give them special privileges vis-a-vis the eventual transcontinental railroad.

In those days, it might be more that England would have to persuade Oregon and the ASB to let the immigrants leave - during this era they were more competing for immigrants, than trying to foist them onto each other. The land was growing and there was work to be done! But one way or another I'm sure England could figure out some terms that would attract foreign labor. The transcontinental RR is a likely issue where a deal could be made.

All of this brings us to: When is that railroad going to be built?

In OTL, the Canada Pacific Railway was only completed because British Columbia wouldn't join Canada unless Canada promised to build it; the rail companies didn't think it was feasible to build in uninhabited regions. It was proposed in 1871, started in 1880, and finished in 1885. The Pacific Scandal in 1873 actually derailed the project (har har)

har har!

because the Conservatives took bribes from the original Canadian Pacific Railway Company that was tied to American investment, and many Canadians felt that letting the US influence the railway would pave the way for a US-dominated Canada. In TTL, the railway between the east and west coast would have necessarily been a joint venture between Britain, Oregon, the Commonwealth (even if the Tsar's involvement amounts to a rubber stamp, although I think he'd have an interest in connecting Christana to said railroad) , and the ASB. Rupertsland and Oregon would likely consider this venture to be an absolute requirement for their continued existence and prosperity, but the other players might not see it being quite as important. I can see this project lasting well into the 1900s and maybe even the 1910s, or I could see it being the start of an era of cooperation between the powers and finished relatively early.

I agree with this timeline. In general the timeline for the ASB's industrial development is several decades behind the USA. The biggest factor was of course that the lack of naked land grabs contained the insane, explosive growth that the US experienced throughout the 19th century. In the case of the transcontinental RR, that progress will be even slower because the tracks will have to cross international borders that just didn't exist in OTL, and because the economy of TTL's (Greater) California was almost certainly lagging behind even the slowed-down ASB.

Also, was there an existing transcontinental railroad going through Mexico from California's time under ASB influence?
California from Monterrey on south was under Mexican influence, so I would think yes.

Actually... if we look at the OTL settlement of this region, people arrived via Hudson Bay as long ago as 1811.
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_River_Colony#Settling_Red_River

"In July 1811 Miles Macdonell sailed from Yarmouth, England to the Hudson's Bay post at York Factory with 36 primarily Irish and Scottish settlers."

So it looks like, at first at least, the Red River Colony IOTL got at least some of its settlers coming via Hudson Bay. My expectation would be that in the event of it being the only possible route in Rupertsland to access the prairies, York Factory would get a rail connection to the prairies, or at least a reliable land/river route for settlers.

I made a quick Google Maps edit to show what I think the Rupertsland road network might look by the present day ITTL:

The Red River Colony in OTL is part of the history of Assiniboia, which of course became part of the ASB. The English minority there were none too happy about it, and many certainly left Assiniboia to settle in the parts of Rupertsland that remained loyalist. But many others stayed, and the state still has an English minority today.

Nice map!
 
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This is a follow-up to the earlier post on Indian languages. Since there’s still more to write after this, I’m making it a series.

Sources:
@Turquoise Blue on Francophone Nationalism
@Tsochar on TV and media
@Venusian Si on the languages of Long Island

The Languages of the ASB, Part 2: The Confederal languages

French, Dutch, English, and Spanish are considered the ASB’s confederal languages. What this means is a matter of both statute and convention. The four are spoken as either a first or second language by almost the entire population of the confederation; this means that they are the natural languages for anything intended for a broad audience. They dominate the mass media and are almost the exclusive languages of higher education.

Parliament did not formally designate the four confederal languages until the 1990s, responding to activism by the rising Francophone Nationalist movement. But really this did little more than confirm over a century of usual practice. Translators to all four confederal languages are on duty during every session of Parliament. Translation to other languages is available when a member requests it. This had always been the case; the new law merely codified it.

At sessions of Parliament in the old days, members sat not according to party or even by state, but by language. After every speech, translators in the French, English, Spanish, and Dutch speaking sections would interpret for the speaker to each respective section. This time-consuming arrangement lasted a surprisingly long time; members considered it one of the beloved traditions of Parliament. But eventually the traditionalists gave in and acquiesced to translations delivered electronically via auriculars. Even so, the parliamentarians still sit in state delegations rather than by party, and the ordering of the states still derives from the old arrangement based on language.

The four confederal languages have some things in common. All come from Europe. All are fairly large with many speakers both in Europe and around the world. All are spoken as both a first and second language across multiple states, and can be found in every major city across the ASB. All have seen diverse variation in the ways that they are spoken, written, and performed in media. They also have all contributed to the evolution of creole languages within marginalized populations, but that will not be the subject of this post.

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Dutch

Of the four, Dutch has the smallest geographic spread. Only one state, New Netherland, can be said to be predominantly Dutch-speaking. But of course, that state contains the confederal capital and chief metropolis, so it exerts a lot of influence on the ASB as a whole. Communities of Dutch speakers can be found all around the borders of New Netherland, with a few more far-flung pockets along Lakes Ontario and Michigan. Dutch is the most important second language in Iroquoia and a few other areas.

New Amsterdam’s importance in trade and media has spread Dutch more widely. Even before the days of film and television, traveling performers spread a culture that made ample use of Dutch slang terms. Midcentury TV comedy built on this culture and made these loanwords even more ubiquitous. The world of finance, which like the performing arts has its center in New Amsterdam, has also spread Dutch terms to other languages within the ASB.

Compared to the other confederal languages, Dutch has seen little call for language regulation. There’s no real need. Everyone knows what constitutes good Dutch: the language as used by educated Manhattaners. Guardianship of the language rests with a cloud of universities, publishing houses, and periodicals that put out regularly updated dictionaries and style guides. These disagree on some details but present a broadly unified picture of cultivated Boreoamerican Dutch. The language has no academy in America and there is very little desire for one.

The Dutch-speaking sphere is so centralized, in fact, that Upstaters and out-of-staters feel a great deal of pressure to change their accents in order to gain an edge professionally. The Mountain Dutch accent of Allegheny and Poutaxia, for instance, is strongly associated with bumbling comic-relief characters from the old Leatherstocking shows. It has been so stigmatized that it has all but disappeared in larger cities, surviving only in rural areas and even then sometimes a source of embarrassment to its speakers.

French

The main part of Francophone Boreoamerica is a wide arc running from the St. Lawrence to the Great Lakes and down the Mississippi. Its French language is usually described as a continuum between the French of Canada and that of Lower Louisiana, with all the areas in between being in some way intermediate between those two dialects. This is broadly true, even if it obscures a lot of local variation, such as the Old Inoca loanwords I’ve described in the French of Illinois. Acadia and West Dominica are outside this continuum.

The nature of French colonization has made it the most widely spoken second language. In Choctaw, Dakota, Assiniboia, West Dominica, and large areas of the Upper Country and Canada, indigenous or creole languages are the main ones spoken by the people, with French serving as a medium of communication between groups in education, government, and big business. The role of French as a taught language meant that there were calls from early on for standardization and regulation. People wanted to be sure that they and their children were being taught “good French.”

Therefore, academics and literary figures from the largest Francophone states organized the Académie Boréoaméricaine in 1876. Modeled directly on the Académie Française, its purpose was to guide the printing and teaching of French throughout the Confederation. At first it closely followed the lead of its Parisian model, issuing publications and decisions that were mostly responses to it. As time went on, though, it grew more independent. It is much more tolerant of both regional variation and non-French loanwords, since the notion of linguistic purity is pretty obviously impossible in the context of the ASB. Also lacking is any sense that the French language is under siege by outsiders, though of course some Francophones have political grievances against the English and Dutch, more on that below.

The Académie is based in Chicagou. The city is considered to have the most “average” dialect in the French-speaking states, being about halfway between Québec and New Orleans and culturally influenced by both. The educated speech of Chicagou provides the basis for the language as defined by the Académie. (This is distinct from the working-class French accent of Chicagou, which is also well known and much mocked thanks to Chicagou-based media.)

The rise of Francophone Nationalism in politics since the 1970s, and especially since the 1990s, has threatened to politicize the operations of the Académie. Nationalists have stepped up calls to “purify” Boreoamerican French, especially to purify it of its Dutch and English influences. The erudite Academy members have mostly been of an anti-Nationalist bent and have resisted these calls, which of course have only made them more strident. Nationalist governments in Canada have threatened to withdraw their support from the Académie, but they didn’t follow through with their threat.

English

Just as Dutch is the most geographically centered of the four confederal languages, English is the most scattered. And the Angophone states’ long history of political independence has served to heighten the differences between their dialects. Add in the lack of any tradition of language planning, and you have a recipe for some wild variation in the ways that English is spoken and written in the ASB.

New England, always the sensible and well-educated member of the Anglophone family, decided to do something about this in the mid nineteenth century. Besides standardizing and "rationalizing" English, many were concerned about the spread of Dutch in western New England, especially on Long Island. So, academic and literary lights from all the New England states came together to found the New England Academy in 1854, the first of its kind in Boreoamerica and to date the only language academy in the English-speaking world. The Academy was ambitious from the start, looking to enshrine Yankee usage as equal, even superior, to that of England. Most notably, it championed a reform of English spelling, a project that has continued down through the years and led to the replacement of almost all the “augh” and “ough” words with phonetic equivalents.

However, the work of these pointy-headed New Englanders failed to impress people in the other states. From the 1850s to today, they tend to laugh at the spellings and pronunciation guides as simultaneously semi-literate and hopelessly pretentious. So the English spoken from Pennsylvania to the Caribbean remains without any official regulation. Dictionaries and style guides are published, but no single body, or even single city, can claim to be the authority on the language. Spelling follows the conventions of England much more than Boston.

The overall geography of the standard Englishes looks like this: the New England Academy’s authority is recognized in New England itself as well as in Acadia. Now I should note that the role of English in Acadia is actually quite complex and fraught and will have to be taken up in another post - suffice it to say that unlike the Francophones, the Scots speakers of New Scotland have very good reason to feel linguistically besieged, and that they’ve put strict rules in place to restrict the spread of English that could give OTL’s Office Québécois de la Langue Française a run for its money. But where Acadia does use English, they use the New England standard. The states from Pennsylvania southward use a separate standard, not officially defined but the product of consensus among the institutions of the region. The Great Lakes, which has some influence from New England and some from the south, uses a sort of mix of the two. Newfoundland (and therefore Labrador) mostly look to London.

This means that the confederal government has to decide which spelling system to use when it publishes anything in English. For materials intended to be read widely in all the states, both Yankee and non-Yankee versions usually get made. But it would be unnecessarily time-consuming to do this for things like the official translations of laws and parliamentary records. For these lengthy documents, scribes and translators try to simply alternate between the systems, trying not to overly favor one or the other. It’s the same with other published material. The biggest publishing houses create separate editions with different spellings, but most aren’t able to do this. For that reason readers outside New England are used to seeing all the silly Yankee spellings, while readers within New England sooner or later figure out how to manage all the meddlesome ough’s and augh’s.

Outside of New England, accent and pronunciation are not major issues. Anglophones in the ASB tolerate a lot of different accents from Newfoundland to the Caymans and from Winnipeg to Bermuda. Accents associated with Black and Indian groups historically were stigmatized, but this has faded in recent years as all these marginalized peoples have begun to wear their dialects as a badge of pride.

Spanish

There are two broad Spanish-speaking regions in the ASB. The larger one is the belt of six states from Muscoguia to East Dominica, where Spanish serves as either a primary language or the official second language. The other is the border region from Lower Louisiana to southern Dakota that’s adjacent to Mexico.

The Spanish of the main Hispanophone region occupies the northern end of a Caribbean dialect continuum that stretches from Muscoguia to the mouth of the Amazon. Its phonology and lexicon have been much influenced by African and creole languages, as well as by indigenous languages throughout the region. Within this broad grouping, however, are important local distinctions. It ranges from the relatively crisp and clean sounds of East Florida to the idiosyncratic accent of East Dominica, where, it is said, the memory of starvation under Spanish rule causes the people to swallow all their consonants. Havana, like Chicagou, sits in the geographic, cultural, and media center of its region, and its usage provides something of a neutral standard.

When it comes to language planning, the Hispanophone states follow the more typical Boreoamerican path and do it state by state. The Liga de Academias de la Lengua Castellana en Boreoamérica was formed in 1961 and unites similar bodies in each of six states: Muscoguia, West Florida, East Florida, Seminol, Cuba, and East Dominica. The Liga de Academias focuses more on preserving and celebrating local variety than on maintaining the purity of the language. Along with its universal dictionary, it regularly publishes guides to cubanismos, floridanismos, and so forth.

The Spanish of the far west is entirely different, being a form of Mexican rather than Caribbean Spanish. It has historically been far less influential within the confederation because its speakers, though numerous, are minorities in every state in which they reside. But recently there have been efforts to acknowledge and promote the language, including recognizing “Español praderal” (Prairie Spanish) as a unique variety.

One thing that the ASB does not see is the perception of Spanish as an "immigrant language," its main context within our United States. Yes, immigration has upticked in recent years as mobility has increased, both near the border and in the cities. But just about every social and economic factor surrounding the spread of Spanish in OTL is different in this timeline. Spanish has long been a confederal language in the ASB, so even if Hispanophone populations rise, there is nothing about it that’s new. The situation where Mexican workers do agricultural labor is also absent, since the ASB unlike the USA has a largely indigenous “peasant” class that traditionally does such work. And of course the whole political situation is different. The ASB has no history of intervening in Mexican politics, for example. So while Spanish in the cities may be on the rise due to immigration, this does not seem like any kind of radical change, as much as a shift in the balance of already-established languages.
 
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Hello! This is a very lovely project that I've been keeping an eye on for awhile. I gotta ask, what's going on with California? What's its history? I hope this question isn't unwanted or whatever, just curious. Love this project, again!
 
In those days, it might be more that England would have to persuade Oregon and the ASB to let the immigrants leave - during this era they were more competing for immigrants, than trying to foist them onto each other. The land was growing and there was work to be done! But one way or another I'm sure England could figure out some terms that would attract foreign labor. The transcontinental RR is a likely issue where a deal could be made.
I hadn't considered that. It also makes sense, considering both Oregon and the ASB have better land and climate than anywhere in Rupertsland. Even if they've run out of attractive homesteading spots (and that's a big if), immigrants would certainly be tempted to stay. Maybe England could offer a stipend in addition to the land they promise. Or maybe, Rupertia could set up its own aristocratic system and give titles away to the settlers. Those titles wouldn't necessarily be recognized in the English metropole, of course, but it would be cost-effective.

Carolina was Loyalist until 1903, and it cast off the monarchy largely because many Whites objected to the Crown's promotion of civil rights. I can imagine England offering generous terms to Black Carolians looking for opportunities in a less racist land. That could be a really interesting dynamic, both pre- and post-1903.
This actually aligns with OTL really well, as some of the "block settlements" were designated for former slaves who were settled in Canada via the Underground Railroad.

This is a follow-up to the earlier post on Indian languages. Since there’s still more to write after this, I’m making it a series.
I have been waiting for this!
 
The Red River Colony in OTL is part of the history of Assiniboia, which of course became part of the ASB. The English minority there were none too happy about it, and many certainly left Assiniboia to settle in the parts of Rupertsland that remained loyalist. But many others stayed, and the state still has an English minority today.

Nice map!

I think the point I was trying to make is that the route used to settle the Red River colony is the same as the route that would be used to settle Rupertsland- namely, via Hudson Bay- and that thus a lot of the settlers in Rupertsland will have been able to arrive that way rather than having to go via Oregon.
 
I think the point I was trying to make is that the route used to settle the Red River colony is the same as the route that would be used to settle Rupertsland- namely, via Hudson Bay- and that thus a lot of the settlers in Rupertsland will have been able to arrive that way rather than having to go via Oregon.

I won't dispute that it's been done, but there's magnitudes of difference between a few dozen settlers coming down and tens of thousands of them coming down, and I just don't think it's feasible to expand the Hudson Bay route to such an extent. The terrain alternates between rocky outcroppings and unstable bogs, and it's only possible for 3 months out of the year. Rail is dubious at best, because IOTL it wasn't economically feasible to extend the line past The Pas, which is 1/3 of the way from Winnipeg to the bay itself, until after 1908. The route wasn't even completed until 1931, and even then it never saw heavy use. I'd say that some individuals would probably push hard for construction of a Hudson route, especially if the politics delay construction of alternate routes, but it would be infinitely more feasible and cost-effective to build east-west routes instead, and that's what they'd likely go for.
 
So, I have a question; whats up with the 'Egypt' area in the very western parts of Upper Virginia? I was looking at the map and noticed it, then realized that OTL America has a bunch of cities named after the old (inaccurate) Greek names for Egyptian cities too, but I have no idea why. So, uh, whats the story behind that?
 
So, I have a question; whats up with the 'Egypt' area in the very western parts of Upper Virginia? I was looking at the map and noticed it, then realized that OTL America has a bunch of cities named after the old (inaccurate) Greek names for Egyptian cities too, but I have no idea why. So, uh, whats the story behind that?
Not related to the project at all, but I can answer for real life here:
The lower regions of Illinois ("Little Egypt") were considered close to Egypt - the fertile Mississippi and her flood plains reminded settlers of Egypt, and features such as Native American mounds helped build this image of pyramids. Assuming the Greek names stemmed from America's near-fetishistic fascination of Greco-Roman aesthetics.
 
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