Affiliated States of Boreoamerica thread

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Anyway, quite interesting re state givernments. I assume there are no ASB-wide politicial parties?

Since there is a confederation-wide government, there are parties and factions that compete within it - and not like the EU Parliament parties, either; these have had two extra centuries to evolve. So what we actually have are distinct state- and confederation-level party systems. There is some interplay between the two but they do not completely overlap. Most state-level parties do not directly compete at the national level, though they might make endorsements and help campaign for those national parties that mostly share their ideology.

By the by: this is the most current "English Stocks" map, blanking out the parts of the map where the English/British populations are negligible.

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The short answer is yes. The longer answer is that some of that needs to be re-worked as I develop Nova Scotia and the Acadias. I have it filled up with Yankees and Highlanders, per OTL. However, almost everywhere I have been using the term "English" over "British" because part of the back story in my mind is that the Act of Union never occurred and Britain came out of the Civil Wars weaker than in OTL; that partly explains the lack of British and Anglo-American dominance. I think that Nova Sotia will end up as a true Scottish colony, and this will change some of what I've written, both about the ethnic groups (the "stocks") and about the political history of Acadia. This is the reason that nothing on the English stocks has yet made it into the official canon (which lives on my website,

But yeah, some Scots would still be immigrating to the English colonies, and many Yankees would still move into Nova Scotia, even in this scenario.

Interesting, I never even thought about whether "Britain" would exist as we know it. I'm personally rooting for the Scots-Irish/Lowlander thread in Carolina, Watauga, etc. to stay given its nicer climate compared to *Nova Scotia's wet-n-cold dreariness. Granted those areas are more semi-tropical, but by the looks of your latest map (nice work, by the way) it's in the upland portions, where a lot of the issues with malaria, heat, etc. are moderated by higher altitudes. Plus, having that Lowland/Highland split means that Nova Scotia can be mostly Gaelic, which from what I've seen of the place just looks "right" compared to the Highlands :p.
Since there is a confederation-wide government, there are parties and factions that compete within it - and not like the EU Parliament parties, either; these have had two extra centuries to evolve. So what we actually have are distinct state- and confederation-level party systems. There is some interplay between the two but they do not completely overlap. Most state-level parties do not directly compete at the national level, though they might make endorsements and help campaign for those national parties that mostly share their ideology.

By the by: this is the most current "English Stocks" map, blanking out the parts of the map where the English/British populations are negligible.

Interesting. Have you thought about the possible national parties? I could help with that if you want.
Huh. Yes, I'd like that. More than 2 parties, but not dozens; a mix of old, established parties and new, upstarting ones - is that what you were thinking?
Yeah, sounds good. Broad-tent parties as the main parties, right? Or a clear liberal (or socialist?) one and a conservative one?
Yeah, sounds good. Broad-tent parties as the main parties, right? Or a clear liberal (or socialist?) one and a conservative one?

I hadn't thought about it - but broad tent parties make more sense. They may have represented certain factions way back (Metis versus white traders, peace chiefs versus war chiefs), but shifted a lot since then. I definitely prefer that to the usual conservative/liberal/socialist spectrum... not that these ideologies would not be represented somewhere in the mix.
The national parties of the ASB. Not in any particular order.


Democratic Party:
Conservatism, centre-right to right-wing. endorsed by a fair lot of centre-right parties.
Socialist Party: Social democracy, centre-left to left-wing. Endorsed by a fair lot of centre-left parties.


Whig Party: Liberalism, Centre-to-centre-right. Endorsed by some centrist parties. Used to be a major party.
Progressive Party: Liberalism, Centre-to-centre-left. Endorsed by some centrist parties. Split off the Whigs in the 1920s.
Aboriginal Party: Anti-establishment, pro-Aboriginal, pro-"states' rights". Non-ideological. Endorsed by most native-based parties.
Bloc National: A "national" party that mainly represents the French-speaking people. Endorsed by CA and LA nationalists. Centrist.
Partido Colombiano: A party representing Hispanic interests, especially in Cuba, East Dominica, and the Floridas.
Liberation Party: Libertarianism, Economically laissez-faire, civic libertarian. Endorsed by most libertarian parties.
Green Party: Agrarianism, with growing urban environmentalist faction. Centrist-ish. Endorsed by most Green Parties (of both factions).


Freedom Party: Far-left, Democratic socialism. Endorsed by a chunk of the far-left. Biggest party not represented.
People's Party: Far-right, Centralism, Endorsed by a chunk of the far-right. Used to be in Parliament in the 80s.
Radical Left Coalition: Direct democracy, radical left. Coalition of a number of small parties. Endorsed by some far-left parties.
Sunshine Lollipop Party: Satirism, Joke politics (like the UK's OMRLP). Endorsed by similar parties.
Conservative Party: National conservatism, Right-wing. Split off the Democrats in the 1980s.


Earth Party:
The original environmentalist party, polling promisingly in the 80s, but the Greens sucked away voters.
Moderates: Progressive conservatism. Centre-right. Split off the Democrats in the 2000s.
Your Movement: Centrist populism, personalism, small-l libertarianism. Very new, runs at both levels of government.
National Workers' Party:
Far-left, *Marxism, Libertarian communism.
Republican League: Fascism, Ultra-nationalism, Totalitarianism, Law and order. FAR-right.
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Double post: I'm posting here the recent updates to the ASB's road map.


The important thing about this map is that "Confederal highways" are rare in the ASB. Most roads are built and regulated by the states, or in some cases by regional committees of a few neighboring states. The confederal highways came into existence as special projects, either because they were too long for regional committees to handle, or becuase they were built between rivals that could not agree, and thus deferred to the Confederation.

That means that a number of major roads and cities are not confederal highways. Some of the oldest and most important are shown on the map.


The ten main confederal highways are:

  • The Great Northern Road: This connects a number of important early fur and settlement trails. At its western end, the GNR originally linked the Red River settlements with the upper Mississippi. At the eastern end it was the main land route that French traders took into the important Manitoulin and Algoma Countries around Lakes Huron and Superior. In between is a more modern route linking the far northwest with the heart of the Great Lakes. The GNR is especially celebrated in Assiniboia, where it is credited with tying the state to the rest of the ASB and removing it from the orbit of the Hudson's Bay Company.
  • The Grand Trunk Road: One of the most-traveled highways in the confederation, the GTR connects New England with the Hudson valley and Iroquoia, and continues into the Great Lakes and the far northwest. Almost the entire length of the road was important in colonial times and today continues to link some of the country's key population centers.
  • The Confederal Road: As the name implies, this was the ASB's first transport project. Its main purpose in the early 19th century was to connect the central part of the Ohio Country with the Chesapeake to the east and the Mississippi valley to the west. It traverses the confederation's narrow waist and represented the growing connections between east and west of that era.
  • The Great Northeast Trace: Originally it took shape as a trade route from Louisiana into Choctaw and Chicasaw country. Later it extended northward into the Ohio, reaching as far as the Forks and becoming a major artery for the whole area west of the mountains. From the Forks (now the capital city of Two Forts), the road linked with trails over the mountains to the Delaware valley. The modern road then goes to New Amsterdam and onto Long Island, terminating at Southold in the state of Saybrook.
  • The Western Trunk Road links many of the centers of the west. Beginning on the western shore of Lake Michigan, the road turns at Chicagou to follow the valley of the Illinois River; it then crosses and recrosses the Mississippi before heading into Chicasaw and Choctaw, ending at the port of Mobile in West Florida.
  • The Athawomini is a very old war route through the Appalachians. It was one of the routes of the Iroquois in their conquests to the south, and later it brought English traders and fighters into contact with the Cherokee. It extends from Niagara to Mobile.
  • The Old Post Road is the old artery of the English colonies on the east coast. It links the inland cities of Carolina and Virginia with the northern ports of Baltimore and Philadelphia. The road then crosses New Netherland and enters New England, where it passes through every mainland state except Vermont, finally turning north into West Acadia and ending at the Gulf of St. Lawrence. To the south the OPR has been extended into the Floridas, terminating at the edge of the Everglades.
  • The Cumberland Turnpike brought English settlers westward into the Ohio Country and beyond. The route is key to the founding stories of Watauga and Upper Virginia, and to the English-speaking community of Illinois.
  • While the Athawomini represents the wars of the past, the Laurentian Turnpike is a symbol of peace. It was built to connect Pennsylvania to Iroquoia, and Iroquoia to Canada, all bitter enemies in the past.
  • Finally, the Acadia Military Road was first built to move defensive troops more easily between the Gulf of St. Lawrence and the Bay of Fundy, another symbol of peaceful cooperation between Canada and its neighbors (in this case New Hampshire and New Scotland). From the bay, the road turns northeast to link New Scotland with East Acadia and the strategic city of Louisbourg.
Postal codes for the states:

1. AE East Acadia
2. AL Allegheny
3. AO West Acadia
4. AR Arques
5. AS Assiniboia
6. BA Bahamas
7. BE Bermuda
8. BL Lower Louisiana
9. CA Canada
10. CI Cayman Islands
11. CK Cherokee
12. CL Carolina
13. CR Christiana
14. CS Chicasaw
15. CT Choctaw
16. CU Cuba
17. DA Dakota
18. DE East Dominica
19. DO West Dominica
20. FE East Florida
21. FO West Florida
22. HL Upper Louisiana
23. HU Huronia
24. IL Illinois
25. IR Iroquoia
26. LA Labrador
27. LC Lower Connecticut
28. LV Lower Virginia
29. MB Massachusetts Bay
30. ML Maryland
31. MU Muscogia
32. NF Newfoundland
33. NH New Hampshire
34. NN New Netherland
35. NS New Scotland
36. OH Ohio
37. PH Upper Country
38. PL Plymouth
39. PN Pennsylvania
40. PX Poutaxia
41. RI Rhode Island
42. SB Saybrook
43. SE Seminol
44. SJ St. John's Island
45. SP St. Pierre and Miquelon
46. UC Upper Connecticut
47. UV Upper Virginia
48. VM Vermont
49. VY The Vineyards
50. WA Watauga
Presidents of the Grand Council of State (President in the sense of "presiding officer". Chosen by the GCoS, which are essentially the "Heads" of State. The GCoS is freshly chosen by the newly-elected Parliament (with a law meaning that it needs a 3/4 approval for the whole GCoS), with popular incumbents tending to be re-appointed. Presidents are confirmed by a vote of the new GCoS when they officially begin their term. The office of President in modern days are tied with the post of Secretary of Foreign Affairs, making the President the one who represents the nation at international events and at the UN-analogue.)

Presidents since 1922...

Calvin Coolidge (Democratic-Massachusetts) 1922-1930
Frits Roseveld (Progressive-New Netherlands) 1930-1945

Harald Steensen (Whig-Dakota) 1945-1950
Edouard Dupont (Democratic-Upper Country) 1950-1959
Christian Herter (Democratic-Massachusetts) 1959-1963
Joseph Mansfield (Progressive-New Netherlands) 1963-1970
Geraint Brenin (Whig/Independent Whig-Allegheny) 1970-1977
Morton Carroll (Democratic-Upper Virginia) 1977-1982
Julian Mathieu (Socialist-Lower Louisiana) 1982-1989
Ramsay Clark (Socialist-New Netherlands) 1989-1995
Mary Hanford (Democratic-Carolina) 1995-2003
Calvin Howell (Democratic-Seminol) 2003-2009
Jo Byquist (Socialist-Christiana) 2009-present

Traditionally, the Progressives and Whigs had more power here since they could convince the Socialists and Democrats to put them in as a compromise. However, Democrats had more ability to push for a President from their party since they were more entrenched than the Socialists.

As the Socialists grew in influence, they became disillusioned with the Grand Council of State, with some saying it only served to hinder the march of progress. Thus Socialists focused their efforts on Parliament and not the GCoS. Democratic stubbornness on this front didn't help as Socialist majority governments were forced to pick more Progressives than Socialists for the GCoS.

When any Socialist became Councillor, they tend to back the leftier choice for President (which always were the Progressive). As the position of President grew in influence, the Socialists argued that the GCoS should reflect the will of the people (by this point, Socialists were still fourth biggest despite being one of the Big Two in Parliament).

Mansfield's Council was a theoretical Prog-Soc majority, but when the new GCoS appointed a centre-right Whig despite the Socialists winning a landslide in that year's election, things got controversial. Thankfully, Brennin was very conciliatory and managed to smooth things over. Disagreement between Brennin and the Whig Party led to him leaving and becoming an "Independent Whig". He was nevertheless re-nominated as President the next election.

When Carroll took over as President, it was clear that the power of the Progressives and Whigs in the GCoS was dwindling as the Socialists and Democrats became more moderate. The 1979 election saw his renomination thanks to friendly Socialists, Progressives and Greens (the Greens re-entered the GCoS thanks to a voter revival and the polarisation between Soc-Prog and Dem-Whig becoming worse).

However, in 1982, the long-serving Socialist Councillor (and former Governor-General of Lower Louisiana, he double-jobbed) Julian Mathieu was appointed President, a reflection of the fact that Socialists was now accepted in "mainstream" politics.

From that point forth, the Progressives and Whigs were permanently excluded from the increasingly-significant Presidency.
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Just a small correction, you have Orange at OTL Albany; assuming derivation from Fort Orange, when that was just the name of the fort. A better name would be Beverwijk; as that was the town around Fort Orange.
Just a small correction, you have Orange at OTL Albany; assuming derivation from Fort Orange, when that was just the name of the fort. A better name would be Beverwijk; as that was the town around Fort Orange.

You're certainly the one who would know. I'll change it in future versions of that map. (And once I get to NN, which should be relatively soon.)

Turquoise Blue and I have been PMing about NN's government, as well. I'll re-post what she and I have said about it:


New Netherlands.

Labour Party/Partij van der Arbeid: Rose out of rising disillusionment with New Netherlander politics amongst the working class. Quickly allied itself with the federal Socialists, and finally won the Governorship under Augustijn Claasen in the 1930s. Currently very close to trade unions, but despite its name, this closeness is quite rare in the party's history. Social democratic.

Liberal Party/Liberale Partij: Often called New Netherlands' "Grand Old Party", it was established as a reforming force opposed to the old aristocratic-based Conservatives when New Netherlands first became a "democracy". With great Governors such as Christiaan Dreyer, Theodorus Roseveld and Daan Muyskens, it is known state-wide as a party of experience. Liberal-conservative.

Green Alliance/Groene Alliantie: New Netherlands' own Green party, it was originally a rebranding of the old Conservatives (by this point, they were falling out of relevance as the scene was polarised between Labour and the Liberals) in the 1950s as an agrarian party like similar Green parties in other states, but as what happened with other Green Parties, it developed an urban environmentalist branch. Ecological agrarian.


I really enjoy the idea of a Green movement gradually evolving from agrarian conservatives. I also like the very slow movement away from aristocratic control, which would be very strong in NN's early history.

As for the form of government: if any state has a full-on parliamentary government, I think it is NN. There is the strong aristocracy, who would want to limit the power of the governor. There's also the influence from the Dutch Republic. I would think that the earliest form of representative government would be a kind of American States-General, with representatives of the Patroons and the Commons. The power of the Director/Governor gradually lost out to parliament, and today the governor is a figurehead chief of state. Then the Patroons' power was reduced, until they finally lost their special representation. Sound good?

I also think that local governments in NN have a great deal of autonomous power - a legacy of the patroonships, of Orange (Albany)'s Beverwijk's distance from the capital, and from Dutch political traditions.


Alright. How about...

Bernhard "Benny" Rangel (Labour majority) as the current Staatsminister?
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Chief Ministers of the Affiliated States of Boreoamerica ("Head of Government" basically.)

The position of Chief Minister was originally appointed by the unelected Congress of Nations, which was chosen by the states, but after pressure from the ambitious middle class got too much, the Congress appointed a reformist Chief Minister, Armand Linville. Linville, backed up by the middle-class-based Democratic Party, reformed the national system so that it was less a collection of nations and more a confederation, with the Parliament becoming stronger and the Congress dwindling in strength before being abolished in 1899, by that point becoming a patronage appointment without any real power. Linville successfully convinced all states who lacked it to allow the middle class to vote. This led to another landslide for Linville's Democrats. However, he died in 1871, leaving a power vacuum that was taken over by conservative Democrats who accepted Linville's electoral roll expansion, but opposed any further reform. This angered the reformists (who loved Linville, as he was one of them) and they left to form the Whig Party, creating Boreoamerica's first "modern" party system between the conservative Democrats and reformist Whigs.

When the Whigs entered government in 1882 under James A. Garfield, they were very conscious of the class below the middle class, as they were getting angrier. Labor strikes increased amidst increasing economic domination by monopolies. Garfield's Whigs was interested in reforming the system so that it could appeal to all Boreoamericans, and one of their ideas was expanding the national franchise to all male Boreoamericans. Garfield proposed it in 1885 and it had a big backlash from the states (acting in their self-interest) and the establishment, with the Democratic President successfully dismissing Garfield. This only served to anger the working class even more, and in 1889, the Socialist Party was born "in the gutters of forgotten Boreoamerica", in their future Chief Minister Urban Stendahl's words.

Democratic dominance from 1887 to 1902 saw some states give way to rising working class discontent and grant them the vote. Not surprisingly, socialists won seats in the Assemblies and in 1895, the Socialist Party won its first three MPs. Discontent between labor and capital was at its highest when the Whigs re-entered government under Pascal Chastain of Allegheney. An experienced lawyer, Chastain was determined to reform the patchwork electoral roll for good.

His Electoral Reform Bill was once again shot down by the GCoS and by some states, but Chastain exploited a loophole in the 1860s Boreoamerican Constitution that some radical Democrats put in (namely, the binding nature of referenda) and called a referendum on a national electoral roll. Some states, namely the ones in the South, opposed this bitterly and tried to fight it coming to their states, but was overruled. By a landslide victory, the working class finally had universal vote. Well, all working class men. The following election, Whigs won another majority and Socialists increased their seats so that they were the clear third party.

Chastain's achievement split his party as many opposed his blatantly federalist approach, arguing that the ASB was a confederation of nations, not a federation of provinces. He managed to fight off his rivals and won another majority in the 1915 election. Socialists lost seats for the first time, with 5 seats lost to the Whigs.

*skipping over the war, for it to be developed later. Laurier took over in 1917*

The war ended with the Boreoamericans on the winning side, but it was intensely controversial. Internationalist Socialists like Victor DuBois and isolationist Democrats like Gamaliel Harding bitterly opposed the war. PM Laurier, on the advice of President Thomas Wilson approved the Sedition Act shortly after the war began. The Sedition Act was considered the most blatant example of national overreach, as it approved the arrest of people who significantly hindered the war effort. This was aimed mainly at the Socialist Party, with Victor DuBois, future Chief Minister Urban Stendahl, Augustijn Claasen and Fleur Blumstein were notable arrests of this.

The war ended a year later, and people was massively displeased with the Whigs for dragging Boreoamerica into a "foreign" war, for violating democracy and states' rights with the Sedition Act and for not even pressing for repartitions in the treaty. The Socialists and Democrats gained much votes in by-elections and successfully won many states' assembly seats. Many left-Whigs pushed for a leadership challenge, and much to their dismay, a "Laurier Whig" narrowly won out. With the election looming, many left to form the Progressive Party half out of principle, half out of self-interest. The election saw the Whigs massively plummet to just barely ahead of the Progressives, with the Socialists winning Opposition for the first time under Victor DuBois. DuBois, the first Socialist Leader of the Opposition, was however unwell and struggled with illness before succumbing to it barely six months after the election. His replacement was Gwilym Forrester, who successfully condensed the Socialist gains and saw off a potential Whig revival. The Democratic government under Gamaliel Harding was noted for its' competence and for its' clean reputation. When Harding announced that he was stepping down in favour of his Treasury Minister Henri Voclain, he was personally popular but all that would change.

From the old Congress Chief Ministers, through Linville and the Democratic-Whig system, Boreoamerica lacked a concrete "national" identity, with state identity always being stronger. The coming years, the years of desolation and despair, would make Boreoamerica stronger and form its modern identity.

List of Chief Ministers up to this point.
Armand Linville (Democratic-Illinois) 1864-1871 Dem maj.
Joseph-Adolphe Chapleau (Democratic-Canada) 1871-1875 Dem maj.
William Walker (Democratic-Huronia) 1875-1882 Dem maj.
James A. Garfield (Whig-Upper Connecticut) 1882-1886 Whig maj.
Ely S. Parker (Whig-Iroquoia) 1886-1887 Whig maj.
Samuel Tylden (Democratic-Massachusetts) 1887-1893 Dem maj.
Steven Cleveland (Democratic-Maryland) 1893-1899 Dem maj.
John Carlisle (Democratic-Upper Virginia) 1899-1902 Dem maj.
Pascal Chastain (Whig-Allegheney) 1902-1917 Whig maj.
Wilfrid Laurier (Whig-Canada) 1917-1921 Whig maj.
Dougal McAdoo (Whig-New Scotland) 1921-1922 Whig maj., then Whig min.
Gamaliel Harding (Democratic-Ohio) 1922-1928 Dem maj.
Henri Voclain (Democratic-Illinois) 1928-???? Dem maj.

More coming soon!
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Continuation of the above post.

The Great Desolation started with the high speculation market of Europe and North America reaching a high, before imploding in spectacular fashion. The world economy plummeted and the "Thriving Twenties" came to an end.

The Democratic leaders, President Calvin Coolidge and Chief Minister Henri Voclain, worked together to figure out a way to solve the "economic downturn" as Voclain called it. In the end, Coolidge disputed that there was an actual downturn and Voclain claimed it primarily affected farmers. In the end, actual action was only taken when it affected agrarian areas. Even then, it was not enough. In state elections, socialist parties made gains, and if not them, progressive parties instead. In 1930, Huey Long and his Common Wealth Party won Lower Louisiana's Governor-Generalship in a landslide. The charismatic populist was to prove one of the most recognisable faces of the Desolation.

The death of President Coolidge in late 1930 forced the Grand Council to vote for a new president. Moderate Democrats, Whigs and the sole Socialist sided with Progressives to place Frits Roseveld in the Presidency. Roseveld would lead his nation for the longest of any President. Roseveld's charisma sustained the nation from falling in a genuine depression* and kept people's spirits up.

The Socialist Party replaced its leader with a new one in mid-1929, and it was through the Desolation that everybody would know the name of Urban Stendahl. Stendahl's "Common Good" platform, taking some ideas from Long's policies, proved intensely popular. The Greens under Floyd Olson adopted a more radical policy, portraying themselves as "radical agrarians" and promising to make things better for the average farmer.

The long-standing Liberal government of New Netherlands, there since the fall of the Conservatives in 1899, finally fell in late 1931 to the rising Labour Party under Augustijn Claasen. This proved a shock to Voclain and together with Roseveld, he agreed on a "Good Deal" for the Boreoamerican people, but it proved too little too late and in mid-1932, the red-green wave blew Voclain out of government. Socialists won a majority and Greens reached their highest amount of seats, becoming the third-biggest party. Progressives made major gains, surpassing the Whigs for the first time. The Democrats, beaten and bruised, returned to Opposition.

Stendahl's government is ranked as one of the best in Boreoamerican history, and it is not hard to see why. His government worked extensively with states to pass significant economic reforms, including creating the modern welfare state. Stendahl and Roseveld proved great at working together, despite their differences.

Stendahl won a landslide majority in 1936 with the people loving his "Common Good" policies. The Progressives narrowly inched ahead of the Greens and the Democrats under Jean Garneau was beaten again, losing seats but keeping their Opposition status.

However, as the world stage inched towards war, Stendahl did not want his party to go the way of Laurier's Whigs (punished for taking the nation to war), so he turned to another Whig Chief Minister for inspiration, Pascal Chastain. Socialists were always small-d democrats after all. After consultation with Roseveld, who agreed with Stendahl on the neccesity of a referendum and agreed with him to prepare for war, Stendahl prepared the referendum and had it waiting until the right time.

When the world stage heated up at last and barrels invaded [one of the winning countries in WW1], Stendahl held his referendum on if the nation desired to go to war on the sides of its WW1 allies. "Yes" won by a 53-47 margin (the media empire of Willem Heeren helped with this as they produced pro-Allies news which turned the people against the [name for Axis-ish side]) and the ASB entered war again in 1940, supported in this by its people.

* Depression as in emotional, not economic. That has been replaced by desolation.

List of Chief Ministers up to this point.
Armand Linville (Democratic-Illinois) 1864-1871 Dem maj.
Joseph-Adolphe Chapleau (Democratic-Canada) 1871-1875 Dem maj.
William Walker (Democratic-Huronia) 1875-1882 Dem maj.
James A. Garfield (Whig-Upper Connecticut) 1882-1886 Whig maj.
Ely S. Parker (Whig-Iroquoia) 1886-1887 Whig maj.
Samuel Tylden (Democratic-Massachusetts) 1887-1893 Dem maj.
Steven Cleveland (Democratic-Maryland) 1893-1899 Dem maj.
John Carlisle (Democratic-Upper Virginia) 1899-1902 Dem maj.
Pascal Chastain (Whig-Allegheney) 1902-1917 Whig maj.
Wilfrid Laurier (Whig-Canada) 1917-1921 Whig maj.
Dougal McAdoo (Whig-New Scotland) 1921-1922 Whig maj., then Whig min.
Gamaliel Harding (Democratic-Ohio) 1922-1928 Dem maj.
Henri Voclain (Democratic-Illinois) 1928-1932 Dem maj.
Urban Stendahl (Socialist-Christiana) 1932-???? Soc maj.

More coming soon!
Here's some quotes from the Chief Ministers...

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it."
- Armand Linville, speaking of the state of the country after the Constitutional Revolution.

"Boreoamerica is, and always will be, free. The average voter has knowledge enough to guide the nation."
- Joseph-Adolphe Chapleau, talking of the virtues of democracy. This shows how different even conservative Democrats are to the aristocratic establishment that ruled the country before the Constitutional Revolution.

"We Aboriginals have less influence than we deserve. One of the great things about this country is that it is flexible enough to allow us what we deserve."
- William Walker talking of the Aboriginal influence on the nation.

"As long as this country denies the democratic right to vote to the lowest of all Boreoamericans, then we cannot look at ourselves and say we are truly better than we were thirty years ago."
- James A. Garfield, defending his Electoral Reform Bill. This statement generated an outcry from Democrats and even from some of his Whigs.

"I am the man who is marching to his death."
- Ely S. Parker, talking of the Whigs' electoral chances in the 1887 general election.

"It is said that it is far more difficult to hold and maintain leadership that it is to attain it. Success is a ruthless competitor for it flatters and nourishes our weaknesses and lulls us into complacency."
Samuel Tylden, on his 1887 landslide victory against the Whigs.

"Sensible and responsible workers do not want to vote. The relative positions to be assumed by the different classes in the system of our civilization were assigned long ago by a higher intelligence than ours."
- Steven Cleveland, speaking of the growth of the states that allow the working-class to vote. This shows the increasingly conservativeness of the Democratic Party.

"After we have calmly stood by and allowed unions to grow strong, we should not be asked to make them able to threat this country."
- John Carlisle, speaking of the growth of trade unions. His perspective of trade unions becoming a potential threat to the country shows the middle-class dominance of the Democratic Party.

“Oh, Mr. President, do not let so great an achievement suffer from any taint of illegitimacy."
- Pascal Chastain, speaking of his successful referendum to the President who threatened to contest it on the basis that Linville and the rest of the Founding Fathers did not intend it to be used that way.

"Let them look to the past, but let them also look to the future; let them look to the land of their ancestors, but let them look also to the land of their children."
- Wilfrid Laurier, speaking of the importance of thinking of both the future and the past. He was referring to the other parties' tendency to look to the past for all the answers.

"It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument."
- Dougal McAdoo, speaking of his declining to enter in a debate with Marion La Follette, his progressive competitor for the Whig leadership. McAdoo's campaign split the party in two.

"In the great fulfillment we must have a citizenship less concerned about what the government can do for it and more anxious about what it can do for the nation."
- Gamaliel Harding, speaking of the Democratic perspective on the people's relationship to the government. He was contrasting it with what he considered the Socialist perspective to be.

"To destroy a standing crop goes against the soundest instincts of human nature."
- Henri Voclain, speaking of the economy and his "status quo" approach to the Desolation. Floyd Olson would later reply with "The standing crop has all withered, much to his ignorance."

"I intend to do what little one man can do to awaken the public conscience, and in the meantime I am not frightened by your menaces."
- Urban Stendahl in 1918, making a statement against the Sedition Act. He was later arrested, but was re-elected in his seat's by-election.
*skipping the War*

In the ASB, there has not been an election to the parliament since 1936, and in 1946 the people went to the polls only one year after the end of the War.

Stendahl's Socialists was campaigning for a continuation of the "Common Good" policies, while William Martin's Democrats was campaigning on a "change" of government not being a change of policies. The Progressives under Adrien Voclain (the son of Henri Voclain, but he became very progressive as a reaction to his father's conservativeness) and the Greens under Blaise Vincent were also campaigning for a different take to the "Common Good" policies. Meanwhile the Whigs, de jure led by Wendell Willkie, but de facto led by President Harald Steensen, was pushing a "vote for us to moderate the government" platform.

In the end, the Democrats made major gains and surpassed the Socialists, but failed to reach the majority, the first time in modern Boreoamerican history that an election returned a hung parliament. This was now the time for the Whigs to shine, as they got several concessions out of Martin's Democrats in exchange for a coalition. The first coalition government in Boreoamerican history was to prove very influential.

The Whigs' first concession from the Democrats was that of harmonising the franchise. The states all had different standards of voting, with even a few giving more votes according to wealth. Stendahl's Socialists tried to deal with this, but after facing opposition, reclutantly agreed to focus on economic issues. Chastain's referendum was interpreted by many states as allowing the working class to have at least one vote per person, and it was vague enough for a disturbingly high amount of states to exclude working-class women from voting. In a modern world, many saw this conservative attitude to voting as an embarrassment. This was one thing the Democrats readily agreed to. After some urging, some pressuring and finally threatening to withdraw funding, the harmonising of the franchise was finally achieved. Virginia's electoral college was kept after it was made clear that the initial vote was harmonised, not what came after.

The Whigs' second concession from the Democrats was that of a committee that would look at harmonising the electoral system. The committee finally settled on a system that would be half FPTP, half PR. The referendum, supported only by the Whigs and Progressives (with a considerable amount of Socialists and Greens, but not the leaders) lost in a landslide as people preferred to keep the system they knew. It didn't help that the referendum came after the harmonising of the franchise, as the main problem people had with the system was the different franchises. It also undermined the liberal parties in the states as people voted for conservative, socialist or agrarian parties instead.

The Whigs' third concession from the Democrats was that of an official law making referenda mandatory for all declared wars. This was passed easily.

By the end of the parliamentary term in 1951, the Chief Minister was sick of working with the Whigs and campaigned distinctly more conservative than in 1946. The Socialists won a bare majority under Norman Thomas of Ohio and a new era started. The Whigs were punished by losing over half of their seats.

List of Chief Ministers up to this point.
Armand Linville (Democratic-Illinois) 1864-1871 Dem maj.
Joseph-Adolphe Chapleau (Democratic-Canada) 1871-1875 Dem maj.
William Walker (Democratic-Huronia) 1875-1882 Dem maj.
James A. Garfield (Whig-Upper Connecticut) 1882-1886 Whig maj.
Ely S. Parker (Whig-Iroquoia) 1886-1887 Whig maj.
Samuel Tylden (Democratic-Massachusetts) 1887-1893 Dem maj.
Steven Cleveland (Democratic-Maryland) 1893-1899 Dem maj.
John Carlisle (Democratic-Upper Virginia) 1899-1902 Dem maj.
Pascal Chastain (Whig-Allegheney) 1902-1917 Whig maj.
Wilfrid Laurier (Whig-Canada) 1917-1921 Whig maj.
Dougal McAdoo (Whig-New Scotland) 1921-1922 Whig maj., then Whig min.
Gamaliel Harding (Democratic-Ohio) 1922-1928 Dem maj.
Henri Voclain (Democratic-Illinois) 1928-1932 Dem maj.
Urban Stendahl (Socialist-Christiana) 1932-1946 Soc maj.
William Martin (Democratic-Plymouth) 1946-1951 Dem-Whig coalition
Norman Thomas (Socialist-Ohio) 1951-???? Soc maj.
TB, thanks so much for all this new content. I would never in a million years write a politics so detailed, let alone all the quotations that breathe a special kind of life into the world. :):):)

Wilfred Laurier's quote is particularly fitting. It works very nicely with the traditional ethos of the continent. Always look seven generations back, and seven generations ahead.

What are the cities like?

The biggest difference with OTL is that many more cities have an intact early core variously called the Old City, Old Town, The Fort, The Post, etc. Often the area is walled, or at least there are the walls of the old fort sit intact near the center. Most large cities maintained fortifications into the latter half of the 19th century; even as the ASB took shape, a residual fear of armed conflict between states remained for some time. And even after permanent peace became the normal state of affairs, no national standing army existed until the administration of Armand Linville, and so state militias remained large and stationed in the respective capital cities.

I have put some thought into the confederal capital of Two Forts, located at the site of OTL Pittsburgh. The center of that city is indeed a pair of forts located at the Forks of the Ohio River. The forts were originally English and French, and their guns once faced each other over a frightening no-mans-land that today forms the Confederal Mall, a long, grassy park dotted with pools and monuments. The mall runs parallel to the Monongahela River to the south. To the north, parallel to the Allegheny River, is Market Street and the oldest part of the city. Most government offices lie to the east, between the rivers. The areas to the north and south contain most of the industrial development of the city. The city lies within the state of Allegheny, the border being formed by the Ohio and Allegheny Rivers. I really need to do a map.

Can you give me a detailed map Of TTL Maryland and Lower Virginia?

Maryland had to come next. Its story must be told.

Early Maryland

Maryland was founded by the Calverts, Barons Baltimore, a Catholic English family looking to establish a land where they could live out their manorial ambitions and profit from plantation farming. The colony grew under the benevolent but absolute rule of the Calverts, and the planation culture that took shape there resembled that of Virginia, only Catholic.

The colony's religion placed it in an awkward position within the British Empire. Tensions flared up repeatedly between the original Catholic colonists and Protestant newcomers. During the Civil War, power passed between partisans of the two confessions. Lord Baltimore managed to come out on top, welcoming the Stuart Restoration in England and expelling the Puritan interlopers from his restored colony.

The Jacobite Conflict and Lord Effingham's War

However, political chaos continued to churn both the British Isles and their colonies. Less than thirty years after the Restoration, the empire was again torn apart by a conflict between king and parliament. This time, the reigning Calvert came out strongly in favor of the King James and the Jacobites, something to be expected of an English Catholic. He fled England for Maryland. All this provoked an open conflict with Virginia. Things looked dark for Calvert when Maryland's Protestants rose up to support Virginia and the Revolution. Maryland avoided occupation and annihilation by allying himself with the Shawnee and obtaining arms and loans from leading citizens of Pennsylvania. William Penn himself, who might have objected, was absent from America at the time. The war dragged on until 1691, when Virginia's underpaid militia began deserting in such numbers that the attack had to be called off.

Maryland in the 18th Century

Maryland's Jacobitism effectively destroyed the unity of the English colonial empire. It allowed Pennsylvania to declare its continuing neutrality in the conflict, which led to that colony's slow drift toward independence. The war with Virginia set a precedent for English colonists using Indian allies against one another, a practice that caused a great deal of bloodshed but that ultimately may have saved many native societies by guaranteeing them a place in the continent's political order.

By the middle of the 18th century Maryland also had a secure place in the continental order. Normal trade and cross-border migration was occurring with its neighbors. An alliance with the Iroquois to the north was one of the connecting bonds that led eventually to the emergence of the Confederation.

Contemporary government

To this day the colony remains loyal to its absentee king. The Jacobite claimant, who lives in Italy, has more-or-less abandoned claims to the English and Scottish thrones, but acknowledges the minimal constitutional role he plays in Maryland. It has never been seen as appropriate for the King to live in Maryland - in the old days this would have looked like the start of a campaign to conquer all of Boreoamerica, while in more modern times it would look like an infringement of the liberty of Maryland and of the ASB more generally. But he does visit his little realm fairly often.

Besides the distant King, Maryland has a resident constitutional monarch, the Baron Baltimore. He performs most of the duties of a head of state, opening the General Assembly and lending a general sense of pomp and flair to the life of the province. The General Assembly is a unicameral parliamentary body. The title "Lord of the Manor" is extant among some Marylander families, but there was never a separate house of lords; the mere rumor that the Baron was considering creating one was enough to provoke another Protestant uprising in 1715, which was only barely put down.

On the map can be seen the original capital, St. Mary's. The town was abandoned during the wars with Virginia and is today a minor settlement. Annapolis, the second capital, is located up the bay, and you can't miss the current capital, Baltimore, whose metro area has outgrown its official city boundaries and spread into neighboring counties. Other important towns are Tohoga and Anacostia on the Patomac, important suburbs of Alexandria, Virginia. Cumberland, in the extreme northwest, was an important point on the westward route for missionaries and settlers in the 18th and 19th centuries.

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