Affiliated States of Boreoamerica thread
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Ah. Well I'm glad I was able to help.I'll definitely post more ideas later on if you'd like - although I will say that I'm in favor of Mexico annexing the two ? territories on the map instead of them being independent.
Without that territory, is it more difficult to put into action your plan for Mexico? Because I like what they add to the map.
Both are big. I'd estimate that Chicago is a bit less populous than in OTL, Detroit a bit more so. The two cities are about equal in population. Suburban sprawl is a problem in TTL as well, but it looks different and doesn't occupy as much land as around our American cities. The dynamic where city centers became undesirable didn't happen; urban poverty tends to be found on outskirts and in suburbs, and the burbs cluster more closely around the cities rather than drifting out in all directions. There are some wealthy retreats out on the edges of the metro areas, but the general trend is for wealth to stay in the cities rather than flee.
That hadn't occurred to me, the impact of the size of these cities. That's interesting to think about.
I like that.
I'm leaning toward the boroughs remaining separate municipalities, but I haven't completely worked that out yet.
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That is such a pretty map! Very lovely work, the detail really shines through.
Would this happen in TTL? This type of light rail was pretty sweet in OTL, and would seem a good fit for TTL?
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Considering part of Japan is under Russian rule, and Walt Disney was never born to inspire early anime designers, I don't think so.
Maybe the style of Japanese animation would be more like it was in the 1910's?One of the overriding themes of the world is a much stronger, more rooted folk culture in North America. So the film and TV culture that took shape is going to be rooted in that. I'd imagine something much more localized and less of an impulse to make everything more universally appealing... something we need to think about, for sure.
With California lying somewhere between the first and third world, it's worth also thinking about what kinds of movies would come out of there.
With California lying somewhere between the first and third world, it's worth also thinking about what kinds of movies would come out of there.
It sounds really interesting, but it's far from being my area of expertise. Do you have a suggestion?
Well i guess we'd have to figure out how steam and rail develop in the ASB. And its also not my expertise either, Ive just always loved the old "light rail" networks and lament their passing.
edit Amd how much is spent trying to recreate them..
This map is a total work in progress, but I haven't posted in so long that I want to share it. It is a map of the Commonwealth of Upper Virginia. After their revolution in the 1760s and 70s, Virginians spilled across the mountains, freed of the constraints that English authorities had put on them. These settlers made Virginia by far the most successful expansionist of all the English states. They birthed a distinct English Pioneer culture that greatly influenced the surrounding regions, often described as fiercely individualist with a tendency toward enthusiastic expressions of religion. The expansionism of the Virginians was tempered by the need to form alliances with other powers in the west, namely the Creeks, Chicasaws, and especially the French in Canada.
Upper Virginia was split off as its own state only in 1850. This followed thirty years of disputes between east and west and several failed proposals to divide the state into federalized regions. By that time the ASB was a permanent alliance that linked all states east of the Mississippi, and there was no fear that an independent west would go against the interests of the east. Today Upper Virginia is most famous for its distinct varieties of horses and whiskey.
Upper Virginia was split off as its own state only in 1850. This followed thirty years of disputes between east and west and several failed proposals to divide the state into federalized regions. By that time the ASB was a permanent alliance that linked all states east of the Mississippi, and there was no fear that an independent west would go against the interests of the east. Today Upper Virginia is most famous for its distinct varieties of horses and whiskey.
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First, although the above map is still a work in progress, I think it's enough to add to the official page. I wrote a more detailed history to accompany it. Most of it is a recap of information that was already written elsewhere.
Second, while Upper Virginia has a map, Lower Virginia might just have a flag. This is my idea for the flag of Lower Virginia. Clearly it began during the Wars of Independence. The originals were covered with belligerent mottoes like LIBERTY OR DEATH and DON'T TREAD ON ME and SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS. The modern flag has removed all of that, but it still features the rattlesnake, daring all who might try to encroach on Virginia's rights and independence. The striped background also comes from the Revolution. The nine stripes represented the nine states that had declared independence from England.* Despite much early hope, the English Republicans failed to stay united after the war's end. Bermuda was reconquered; Connecticut, Rhode Island, and Plymouth actually voted to restore the monarchy; and Pennsylvania went so far as to fight alongside England in a war against Virginia in 1803-8. But the idealism of the early revolutionaries is preserved in this flag.
* The nine states originally were: Virginia, Pennsylvania, Christiana, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Plymouth, Massachusetts Bay, New Hampshire, and Bermuda. Bermuda had been a Virginian dependency, but it had a separate assembly that declared independence on its own. As the war died down and English forces remained in Bermuda, Virginia began to emphasize that Bermuda was part of its own territory rather than a separate entity. However, by then Vermont was a recognized member of the group of revolutionary states, so the number could remain at nine.
Second, while Upper Virginia has a map, Lower Virginia might just have a flag. This is my idea for the flag of Lower Virginia. Clearly it began during the Wars of Independence. The originals were covered with belligerent mottoes like LIBERTY OR DEATH and DON'T TREAD ON ME and SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS. The modern flag has removed all of that, but it still features the rattlesnake, daring all who might try to encroach on Virginia's rights and independence. The striped background also comes from the Revolution. The nine stripes represented the nine states that had declared independence from England.* Despite much early hope, the English Republicans failed to stay united after the war's end. Bermuda was reconquered; Connecticut, Rhode Island, and Plymouth actually voted to restore the monarchy; and Pennsylvania went so far as to fight alongside England in a war against Virginia in 1803-8. But the idealism of the early revolutionaries is preserved in this flag.
* The nine states originally were: Virginia, Pennsylvania, Christiana, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Plymouth, Massachusetts Bay, New Hampshire, and Bermuda. Bermuda had been a Virginian dependency, but it had a separate assembly that declared independence on its own. As the war died down and English forces remained in Bermuda, Virginia began to emphasize that Bermuda was part of its own territory rather than a separate entity. However, by then Vermont was a recognized member of the group of revolutionary states, so the number could remain at nine.
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Hey, we're a state capitol!. Bonus points if you figure out where
I suppose they would. It's kind of a mouthful. In conversation people probably say "Cairo, UV".
So Detroit? The entire Upper Country is the state. The smaller ares on the map are subdivisions that are traditionally called "countries", odd as that is.
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Alaska Hawaii are both part of the P.I.C. (Pseudodemetrian Imperial Commonwealth); basically a transcontinental Russo-Swedish empire largely based on @False Dmitri's claimed titles for himself (as a joke).*
*At least going by this page