ACW Poll: Which is Old Kentucky's Home?

Which Is More Likely in a CS-victory Scenario?

  • Kentucky Staying in the Union

    Votes: 54 77.1%
  • Kentucky Joining the Confederacy

    Votes: 16 22.9%

  • Total voters
    70

Marco Dain

Banned
Here's a question.
If Bragg is taken out of the fight say during Perryville then how takes over Hardee, Kirby Smith or Polk (god forbid or hell ya depending of your sympathies)

also what would the new commander do; be more aggressive, better diplomacy with the locals etc.

My complaint with Bragg has never been that he wasn't technically proficient. From a purely technical stand point he was probably one of the Souths best Generals. My complaint is that he never had the intestinal fortitude to "Go all In."

Underdogs can not play it safe. You have to be bold. break with tradition or go against doctrine. Lee and Grant understood this, Hell for all his faults Van Dorn threw everything he had into battle.


As I said earlier Bragg had multiple opportunities to face Buell under circumstances more favorable than any confederate commander had a right to expect.
 
Depends on the type of victory.

In a UK & France help scenario, you *might* end up with a vote, but unlikely. (What is the first vote determining the country that you joined, post WWI?)

IN an 1864 exhaustion victory, I think Kentucky stays in the Union. An 1862 victory if co-ordinated with a screwup on the part of the Union general in the area, maybe...
 
Here's a question.
If Bragg is taken out of the fight say during Perryville then how takes over Hardee, Kirby Smith or Polk (god forbid or hell ya depending of your sympathies)
Polk. And as a Union supporter, I still think "God forbid." The Army of Tennessee did not deserve him.

also what would the new commander do; be more aggressive, better diplomacy with the locals etc.
Good question, but given his charming personality and previous behavior in Kentucky, I wouldn't trust he'd do better.

My complaint with Bragg has never been that he wasn't technically proficient. From a purely technical stand point he was probably one of the Souths best Generals. My complaint is that he never had the intestinal fortitude to "Go all In."

Underdogs can not play it safe. You have to be bold. break with tradition or go against doctrine. Lee and Grant understood this, Hell for all his faults Van Dorn threw everything he had into battle.


As I said earlier Bragg had multiple opportunities to face Buell under circumstances more favorable than any confederate commander had a right to expect.
Where did Bragg fail to go "all in" in a situation where that could have paid off?

Van Dorn and Hood (and Lee) demonstrated that going all in can lose big. And the AoT is not in a position to afford that.

And was his situation really that favorable? Given the strength of the two armies and Buell's (cautious almost to a fault, of course) competence.
 
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