Across the high frontier: a Big Gemini space TL

Owen Gordon (2)

Archibald

Banned
March 21, 1976

Owen Gordon aerospace career was progressing nicely, still he was plagued with contradiction and misunderstandings. There was some entrenched hate directed against the Big Gemini program he was managing, if only because of the lost space shuttle it replaced. He somewhat felt that resent, and suffered from it. He masked that working as hard as he could; next month would mark a milestone, the rollout of the first manned Big Gemini. He actually enjoyed his work; he had learned a lot of things, and there had even been some big surprises on the way.

For example, that day at a remote military area in the desert.

There, the Air Force had a vault were they stored a variety of things they didn’t wanted leaking to the outside world.
To Gordon frustration there had been no alien bodies nor Ark of he Covenant nor fake Apollo film stage; and, unfortunately, no Arrow that got away. Instead were three little spaceships the shape he immediately recognized. Three Geminis ! The ships had been build for the military, for the Manned Orbiting Laboratory that had been canned in ’69. For Douglas they were precious assets; launched by Titan II the refurbished capsules would become testbeds for the incoming Big Gemini. It had been a very strange day spent in the desert, far away from the outside world, at the mercy of nervous soldiers and men dressed in black. At some point Gordon even figured himself running across the desert, chased by a black helicopter with snipers firing at him... just because he had discovered the truth was out there... he laughed uncomfortably at the vision.

Owen Gordon had been tasked to take a pair of Gemini B out of mothball and prepare it for a suborbital flight. In 1973 a Titan II had lofted the capsule into a ballistic hope to test the hatch through the heatshield.

What Gordon had discovered was rather amazing. The MOL had started as early as 1963 but the real start had been 1965. Six missions were planned, so six more Gemini capsules would be build in the shape of the somewhat upgraded Gemini-B. NASA for its part had flown its last Gemini in November 1966. The military wanted a smooth transition from Gemini to Gemini B; McDonnell Douglas production line wouldn't be interrupted. That meant that production of the six Gemini B had started as early as 1966 while the MOL program had been canned only in June 1969, three years later.
Within the span of three years McDonnell Douglas had had well enough time to build all six capsules; but the rest of the MOL being delayed, the six Gemini B had been stored. The storage that should have been temporary had become permanent post June 1969 after the MOL was canned. Gordon had seen all six capsules carefully stored at a secret military facility in the desert. Only two of them had been taken out of storage for the Big Gemini flight test program. Four more flight-ready capsules stood in the hangar, unused.


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Perhaps someday they will be some space cadet crazy enough to fly those capsules for space tourism. Gemini only weights 3.5 metric ton yet it can remain in orbit for 14 days. One day, perhaps... time will tell.


So he loved his job, but the nightmares remained; he was still haunted by his WWII fighting experiences.



March 21, 1945.

Music: Twisted sisters, Like a knife in the back

Seen from 20 000ft, the plant was a blurry square, with little details visible in his gunsight. Details didn't mattered, however; he just had to plant his pair of 1000 pound bombs right in the middle of that square. He first throttled the big Sabre engine back, and the Typhoon was shaken by vibrations. Then he lowered his flaps, turning them into dive brakes. He armed the massive bombs strapped under his wings, pushed his stick forward, and entered a 80 degree dive. Noise and speed reached alarming levels, with the altimeter veering crazily. "If the altimeter is right, we are aboard a fucking submarine" he reminded that joke about a bomber crew lost in the fog. The acceleration just boggled his mind - 300, 400, 500, 600 miles per hour, on the way to supersonic speeds his machine couldn't endure. For a fraction of second the blurred square become a plant, complete with rows of Junker bombers, hangars, smoking chemneys, and fuel tanks. A neat little German plant, only seconds away from hell. He dropped his bombs and pulled the stick like hell - the effort was horrible, as if the damn column was solidly planted in concrete. G-forces literally crushed him, he weighed tons, but he never stopped pulling his column with all the strength he was left. The Typhoon was now in a ten degree dive, a gentle dive. He throttled his engine back to full power, and with the dive, he was still flying at a good 450 miles per hour. He pressed on to its next target, the air base. He briefly glanced over his shoulder and saw an huge cloud of smoke, with orange flames at the base. Gotcha. He pushed his column, and the Typhoon accelerated again, diving at tree tops level - no less, the pine trees clearly visible. Sweat cascaded in his back. He eyed a small tower over the top of a hill; the air base was behind the hill, he would have to literally jump above that bump that, he hoped, would mask him to the flak until it was too late for them. And so he did, and he took the Krauts per suprise. There was row of tent or hangars or whatever that was, and he took the thing into his gunsight, and pressed the trigger. Four Hispano guns and four small machine guns exploded in a hail of deadly bullets. Hell spread below his wings as he pressed over the airfield at an alarming low level. Now the Krauts were jumping to their guns, trying to blast him from the sky. Good luck to them. The last thing he saw of the damn base was a huge hangar, huge like a cathedral, and he had to pull his stick not to smash into the big thing. He pressed the trigger again, and bullets cascaded out of the Hispanos, crippling the huge structure, with secondary explosions everywhere. Not time to admire what he had done; he was already out of the perimeter, cutting the top of pine trees with its thick wings, with the flak exploding above his cockpit. He did not dared to climb until a complete minute had passed, and he returned to his base in France.


After losing so much friends along the years, Gordon had conceived a maddening hate for the flak. Against 109s or 190s you could defend yourself; but the anti-aircraft weapons were for cowards, he had decided. He had so much hate tucked inside him he had asked to be detached to a ground attack unit. For some weeks now he had flown a Typhoon, a massively ugly, brute-looking fighter, with a huge air intake gapping like the mouth of a dinosaur. It was the exact opposite of the sleek Spitfires he had flown for years; and a perfect match to Gordon enraged, hateful mind. With his Typhoon he had blasted dozens of ground targets, notably steam locomotives vital to whacko Adolf war effort. Only a couple of hispano bullets into the boiler would blast not only the locomotive, but also much of the wagons and part of the rail track. Most of the time the trains were crammed with ammunitions and gazoline, with obvious results. He took some ignominous pleasure aiming, pulling the trigger, and making his target explode. Kabooom: he was just insane. The war had turned him into an enraged beast; he was living only to the day, never hoping to return alive from a mission. Typhoons piloted by his squadron mates felt like flies, and died pilots were replaced by young recruits lacking experience that suffered horrible losses.Still, somewhere the fucking fate had decided he would not die, and he did not died, and from May 1945, like millions of survivors across the planet he had to find a new sense to his shattered life.

March 21, 1976 - McDonnell Douglas plant - Long Beach, California

There was the public and press and NASA officials and lot of people, all gathered at the McDonnell plant for the presentation of a Big Gemini full size mockup. NASA was taking no risk with the hatch through the heatshield, another controversial aspect of the new manned ship.

Design of Big Gemini had long been frozen, since 1973. There has been some interesting debates about how would Helios appproach and dock from the space station.

The Agena was to use a LIDAR, an automated docking system, and initially Helios was to use it, too. But the astronaut corps had protested, and they had obtained manual docking. An astronaut would stand up, strapped to a work station similar to a phone booth and located at the rear of Helios cargo module. The astronaut would take manual control of Helios reaction and control system and ram the spaceship backward, into the space station docking assembly. The docking rings by themselves had been the subject of heated debates. Should NASA use the plain old Apollo probe and drogue system, or the brand new APAS-75 androgynous system invented for Apollo-Soyuz ? In theend the APAS-75 was chosen. Not only the Agena and Helios would use it. All the space station modules would feature strengthened APAS-75 docking rings.

The Big Geminis neighbored with Skylab B, and Owen Gordon felt the move had been delibarate. It was a demonstration of force, a message send to both NASA and Rockwell.

We are the winner of the shuttle debacle.

Legendary designer Raymond Loewy was also there - many years before NASA had hired him for a major redesign of Skylab interior. Loewy and a promising, 30-years old recruit named John Frassanito had done a fantastic job, so good that NASA asked Loewy to renew his work for the next space station. Loewy agreed, but warned that Frassanito was no longer with the company, and that himself was on the brink of retirement. Still he would work on the space station with great pleasure.

When in 1972 NASA emphasis switched from shuttle to station, McDonnell Douglas felt their experience with Skylab promised more modules of that kind, notably the core of the space station.

Instead, the space agency decided MDD had enough work on his plate with Big Gemini, and turned the core contract to Rockwell and their S-II stage. In the process they also contracted with Loewy for the design interior.
The reasonning was the McDonnell Douglas didn't needed Loewy again, since their own modules would be close derivatives of Skylab he had already worked on. Gordon company completely disagree, and wanted his own talented designer for the Skylab design modules and even Big Gemini.

That's how Gordon was tasked to track back that Frassanito and hire him at any cost.
He ultimately found him working in Houston but not on the space program. Frassanito had been hired by Datapoint, a growing computing company. To Gordon surprise, he learned that the co-founders Austin Roche and Phil Ray were former NASA employees from the Apollo days. The company itself was exploiting a spinoff from the Apollo program, some revolutionnary technology invented for the Lunar Module landing computer.

It was called the microchip.

Gordon had no idea what a microchip was, thus Frassanito asked Roche to show him one. It was rather unempressive, an aparently unsignificant little bit of metal that looked like a centipede. Yet watching Ray and Roche and Frassanito excitation, for unknown reasons Gordon felt that microchip thing alone might be worth the $20 billion the space agency had spent on Apollo. The very irony was that NASA had so far completely missed one of the potentially best space program spinoff that ever existed. Or did it ?


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Frassanito sketch of the Datapoint 2200 computer, the great grandfather of today's PC.


Gordon did not managed to hire Frassanito, which instead went on to fund his own design company. Still, Gordon could see that work done by Frassanito on Skylab had sparked some deep-rooted interest for the space program.

Back at McDonnell Douglas, Gordon remained in touch with Frassanito and the guys at Datapoint. He felt something huge was coming from there, which may be useful for the space program.

The shuttle controls may need some hefty computing power someday.

The shuttle, by the way, was far from dead. It was more like in life support or coma, with the hope of a resurrection, perhaps after 1980. Low-level contract studies had in fact never stopped, refining the future shuttle again and again. With Marshall on the brink of closure and Houston busy with Big Gemini and the space station, Langley had taken a lead role in shuttle studies.

Gordon had made a brief stint at Langley before - like so many Canadian engineers orphans from the Arrow, he had been send there in 1959, together with Chamberlin, Lindley, Hodge and others.

A decade later a small group under the direction of Gene Love fought for the shuttle against all odds. They had obtained funds not only to refine the shuttle, but also for industry study of more advanced concepts such as single-stage-to-orbit. Martin Marietta and Boeing had received contracts but Martin was busy with the Titan, so they withdrawn, and Gordon's company replaced them.

His leader counterpart for Boeing was Andrew Hepler, and because there would be nothing to build at the end of the contracts, they were not true rivals. Hepler had impressive credentials in both aircraft and missile worlds. He had worked on Boeing famous B-29 and B-52 bombers, the tankers to refuel them, the BOMARC huge anti-aircraft missile (a program where he had worked along future writter Thomas Pynchon !), Dynasoar, the MOL, and the 2707 supersonic airliner.

After the latter cancellation in April 1971 he had briefly worked on Boeing bid for the aborted shuttle, and on Langley post-shuttle studies. He had recruited from Rockwell a very talented engineer with a promising concept - Len Cormier and his Windjammer.

Gordon and Hepler went along quite well.

Because of his Boeing background, Hepler strongly embraced George Mueller original vision of the space shuttle, exposed at that JBIS meeting in London, August 10, 1968. He was obsessed with giving the future shuttle aircraft-like operations.

All this, however, was very preliminary work, and the lost shuttle remained in everyone mind.

The year 1973 had brought two massive changes.


On one hand, NASA had secured a space station; on the other hand, the Air Force had affirmed the Titan III would handle the heaviest satellites for the predictable future. Accordingly, the space shuttle had been reduced in size and weight and crew. Now four astronauts would ferry 20 000 pounds of payload to Liberty, or perhaps to its twin and eventual successor everybody already called Destiny. The reduced crew would sat on ejector seats similar to those of the SR-71, assuring survival up to Mach 3.

With a decade to spent, NASA had plenty of time to refine the shuttle, giving contractors lots of contracts to study some aspects more pointedly. For example Owen team at Douglas had recently been tasked with assessing the issue of ferrying orbiters from their landing fields back to their home base of Cape Canaveral. The lighter shuttle could have easily been hauled on the back of an airliner. But that solution was anything but practical: not all airports featured giant cranes strong enough to loft an orbiter.

No, the best scenario would have the shuttle flying alone; a couple of F-101 turbofans, together with a kerosene tank in the payload bay, would do the trick. The orbiter blunt ass would be covered with an aerodynamic fairing. Gordon five-volumes report to NASA featured a picture of the whole thing on the cover, a superb artwork done by legendary Robert McCall.

The orbiter had the turbofans hanging from a couple of underwing pylons very reminiscent of the Boeing 707 or Convair Hustler from the 50's. Together with the rear aerodynamic fairing, it made for an awesome-looking flying machine - if not very efficient. The low atmosphere being evidently not the orbiter home place, it would stuck to subsonic speeds and short hops, a mere 500 miles at best. Ferry flights across the United States promised to be a shore, although they might be familiarize astronauts with the beast cockpit.

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If I were to sat at the controls, I would go full throttle and try a barrel roll. Open day at Edwards AFB, in the 80's: god, the look in the eyes of childs watching an acrobatic shuttle orbiter barreling over Roger Dry Lake !

As for the lower half of the shuttle, the flyback S-IC booster, the latest news were pretty encouraging. NASA was throwing a lot of contract money at Boeing so that they refined the concept.
 
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Beyond Apollo (1970)

Archibald

Banned
HOW TO REPLACE THE APOLLO LUNAR LANDING SYSTEM (1976)

Between 1960 and 1970 there were countless studies exploring what NASA was supposed to do after Apollo 11 and the nine landings planned, up to Apollo 20. Nothing was carved in stone, and truth be told, future was pretty murky. There were studies of steps backwards – into low Earth orbit – or studies of step forward, onward to Mars. Also was statu quo – with Apollo exploring the Moon, why go elsewhere at all ?

One can ask whether or not Apollo was an efficient manned lunar landing system. Surprise: it was not, and that's the reason why it was brutally cancelled post Apollo 17, in 1972. Apollo largest sins were two-fold: nothing in the 5000 tons Apollo-Saturn lunar stack was reusable, and thus nothing was cheap. Every Apollo shot to the lunar surface cost a billion of dollar or so.

Now let's consider three monuments of sci-fi: Hergé Explorers of the Moon; Clarke and Kubrick 2001; and the mostly forgotten Continent in the Sky by Paul Berna, a French writer and a friend of Clarke. All three novels features lunar transportation systems very unlike Apollo. Tintin nuclear V2, Berna Astrospheres, and Kubrick Aries 1B doesn't stage nor expend bits and bits of spacecraft to reach the lunar surface. They are more akin to lunar airliners. The fact that – admittedly – they are not technically realistic doesn't change the bottom line, which is: in order to support a lunar base, you need an airliner to the Moon. The absence of such system explains why the only atempt at funding Apollo through private money (project Harvest Moon) imediately fell by the wayside. The whole Saturn - Apollo system just can't be handled to any private entity, it is just too cumbersome and expensive.

Thus one can ask whether, at some point after 1969 and Apollo 11 - did NASA considered a more efficient, cheaper to operate, manned lunar landing system ? Fasten your seat belts and forget Mars; forget the aborted space shuttle and forget the Liberty space station. Also, forget the 1966 AAP: Apollo Application Systems, which was a mere extension of the Apollo hardware, hence had the same sins.
NASA vision of Apollo replacement system featured two major aspects: a) reusable spacecrafts flying a large number of missions to save money and b) outposts everywhere to sustain the reusable systems who, unlike Apollo, needed refueling and refurbishment to keep flying.
By outposts we mean space stations and propellant depots – in Earth orbit, then in cislunar space. Here we are going to detail the reusable components in the shape of a short alternate history – how things might have happened after in the summer of 1975 the Apollo 20 mission concluded the first phase of lunar exploration – Apollo.

The year is 1976 – of the United States of America bicentennial, obviously.

Launch Complex 39A – Cape Canaveral, Florida

Even the mighty thrust of five F-1As is not enough – the Saturn INT-21 can't haul a fully-fueled Nuclear Shuttle into Earth orbit, so some tanking will be needed once in Earth orbit to perform a roundtrip to lunar orbit. Unlike the old S-IVB translunar stage the nuclear shuttle is reusable; after delivering a payload to lunar orbit it will brake itself back into low Earth orbit, ready for another mission.

Launch Complex 39B – Cape Canaveral, Florida

The 747-sized spaceplane lights its five huge F-1A engines and rapidly climbs into the Florida sky. Somewhat an aircraft – delta wing, vertical tail, cockpit, undercarriage and a handful of jet engines - has been wrapped around the mighty S-IC to make it reusable and save a large amount of cash. Forget a 140 ton empty can splashing and crashing in the Atlantic ocean thousands of kilometers away from The Cape. Albeit reusable the so-called flyback S-IC never reach orbit – it is way too heavy for that. It instead rocket into a suborbital flight and release the large payload stuck to its back.
Usually it is another winged, piloted space plane: the shuttle orbiter would haul itself into Earth orbit thanks to voluminous internal tankage and a trio of LH2/LOX rocket engines.

But today the payload stuck to the flyback S-IC is an enormous, non-reusable fuel pod; a fat tanker crammed with liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen propellants. The winged S-IC reaches the apex of its suborbital parabola and release the fuel pod. After release the manned booster re-enter Earth atmosphere, gliding back to 30 000 ft. There it lights four big turbofans than pump kerosene from the rocket fuel tank. The two-man crew fly the S-IC back to The Cape, where it lands like an ordinary airliner.

Meanwhile the tanker fires its own shuttle-orbiter rocket engines and hauls itself into Earth orbit. There, a Reusable Nuclear Shuttle (RNS, powered by the infamous NERVA nuclear thermal rocket engine) awaits the tanker. It needs the propellant for a roundtrip to the Moon orbit and backwith a crew of four.


Launch Complex 39C – Cape Canaveral, Florida

The Saturn INT-21 is a two stage booster, essentially a cut Saturn V of Apollo fame. That peculiar Saturn INT-21 carries a payload of five LM-B, also known as space tugs - the RNS little brother. Two of the five space tugs features a cylindrical crew cabin; they are aimed to the lunar surface, replacing the expensive and cumbersome Apollo CSM-LM stack. The other three space tugs won't go to the Moon: they will be stored into orbit and later used for different missions, such as satellite repair or boosting a robotic probe into the solar system.


Up in Earth orbit the RNS is refueling from the fuel pod, topping its large hydrogen tank. The RNS is to carry the two LM-B tugs into lunar orbit so that one piloted tug can land on the lunar surface. The other tug awaits in lunar orbit for an eventual rescue flight. Unlike the LM-B the RNS doesn't burn its hydrogen fuel with liquid oxygen. Instead the hydrogen is heated by the nuclear core and then expelled through an exhaust. That was supposed to get twice the performance of the classic rocket engine – on paper at least.

So there is the reusable, cheap system that links Earth surface to Moon surface, replacing old Apollo. The flyback S-IC hauls a reusable orbiter that flies out to Earth orbit and meet a reusable nuclear ship there. The nuclear shuttle rockets to lunar orbit and delivers a piloted chemical space tug to the lunar surface. End result: four reusable vehicles – flyback S-IC, shuttle orbiter, lunar nuclear shuttle and chemical space tug / LM-B. Just compare that with Apollo seven expendable stages – S-IC, S-II, S-IVB, Apollo's Command Module and Service Module, the Lunar Module's descent stage and ascent stages.

 
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Friday was good day

i hear already the whine and howling coming from Arianespace and ULA HQ...
i bet Monday morning Arianespace employees will stampede the ESA archives to Look for 1980s and 1990s re-usable Ariane 6 concepts, that Arianespace rejected in that time...
 

Archibald

Banned
The video I linked has no sound, and you have that flat ship bobbing out of water; and then, all of sudden and coming out of nowhere, here come the rocketship, trailing flames and gently landing on the ship. I like it so much.
 
There two other Videos
one the Fans scream so loud you can't hear a thing
second is music video with NSFW foul language

here is very interesting Video of CRS-8 post launch briefing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNygOavo2mY

Musk made some astonish statmented about Falcon 9
SpaceX goes for a flight Rate of every 3-4 weeks a launch, mean 13 to 17 launches a Year !
Next to that Musk said that Falcon 9 first stage cost 16,000,000. Dollar to build.
with ideal reuse* it cost only 200,000. dollar fuel cost for next launch.
also the second return stage will undergo 10 static test firing and will launch in July

* = Musk understand with Ideal reuse: to hose down the first stage after landing, move it launch complex, put new second stage with new payload on, then on launch Pad.
 
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Archibald

Banned
Well, I've made another, stunning discovery.
With the rocket safely tucked on the deck the barge is now returning to Jacksonville port, Florida, at the brisky pace of 3 miles an hour, battling the Gulf Stream and winds.
This is so 17th century !
So Elon has had one hell of an idea.
Put some big tanks of liquid oxygen and kerosene on the barge, and refuel the rocket. Then fire the engines, lift-off into a suborbital flight and bring the goddam rocket down to The Cape. Launching from the barge is crazy enough it may work - after all the defunct Sea Launch did it... :eek:

I'm closely following SpaceX progresses and intend to put some of this (amazing) stuff into my TL
 
Battle for the space shuttle (19): the aftermath (2)

Archibald

Banned
April 1976

James Fletcher was recovering. The shuttle scar had been long to heal; the short tenure as NASA administrator was certainly a setback, but Fletcher credentials were strong enough he survived the ordeal. He had not been a member of the President Science Advisory Committee for nothing; and his experience at the head of the University of Utah during the troubled 60's spoke volumes.

As a space advisor, however, the shuttle failure evidently followed him whatever he did. He needed help to manage that issue, and he found it working with Tom Paine, his predecessor at the head of the agency. Paine stint had been no better than his; he had failed with Mars much like Fletcher had failed with the shuttle. Yet Paine remained popular with space enthusiasts.

In the end Fletcher, a mormon, stroke a deal with another mormon - Mo Udall, in his run for the democratic nomination.




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Udall made Fletcher his space advisor on a number of thematics such as Space Based Solar Power, the space program as tool to improve life on Earth, and of course the space shuttle. Fletcher quietly worked on a report tentatively entitled Outlook for space.

Udall couldn't stand the Carter-Mondale ticket lack of enthusiasm for the space program; so they had an unwritten agreement. If elected President Udall would make Fletcher administrator of NASA again, and together they would bring the shuttle back to lower the cost of space transportation. He felt no bitterness - he was way above such feelings.

With Udall tacit approval Fletcher campaigned in favor of the defunct space shuttle. He had two major recruits: former Ames director Hans Mark (who had controversially resigned in 1976) and Werner von Braun himself. Together they toured the country, meeting aerospace workers and space enthusiast groups.

"In 1971 I led what was a very interesting exercise ... I said we have got make a choice, whether to do the space station first or the shuttle first. ... Technically the space station was easier but, we recognized that the shuttle was the pacing item in this thing and, therefore, we said look ... let's do the difficult thing first and the space station will follow. " Fletcher started.

"We felt the Station would be very expensive using expendable launch vehicles to build ... so it had to be deferred until the Shuttle was assured. Events so far have shown the rightness of our approach. We harvested the low hanging fruit first - only to kick the shuttle can down the road again and again."

Then von Braun took over. The great space advocate had aged a lot; he was terminally ill from cancer.

"John Fitzgerald Kennedy famously said - we choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard. According to this we should have picked the shuttle first !

"When we first began thinking about the Space Shuttle, we thought of it as a vehicle to serve a large space station in Earth orbit. But we ran into a dilemma: we found that we could not expect to get funding to build both a large space station and the Space Shuttle in this decade.
A space station would be of no use without the Shuttle. And at first we thought that the reverse was also true - that the Shuttle would be of little use without a space station to serve. But the more we looked at this, the clearer it became that no dilemma existed but rather an opportunity. The shuttle had much wider, and potentially much more revolutionary roles than a simple space station taxi - a role only good enough for capsules like Apollo or Helios."

"Fixing satellites in orbit. Deploying very large telescopes. Fly payloads repeatedly and at a very low cost. Flying ordinary citizens into orbit - and that was only a fraction of the possibilities - we had no time to explore the full potential of the shuttle."


"In the debate over the sequence between the space station and the space shuttle programs, I, Wernher von Braun was strongly in favor of doing the space shuttle first. I felt that the establishment of a space station without something like a large space shuttle made no sense. I felt, and still believe that a really effective space station would have to be assembled on orbit, and this is impossible to do effectively with expendable launch vehicles."

And then it fell to Hans Mark to deliver the final blow.

"Wernher also made two other points that remain valid today.

1. The space shuttle was and still is the technically more difficult part of the whole program — that is — it is harder to build the shuttle than a space station. Thus, the pace at which the shuttle program can be executed would eventually determine the time at which an efficient space station could be deployed.

2. Once the space shuttle built, the operations with the shuttle would attract considerable public attention, and this, in turn, would make it easier to persuade the political system to commit to a space station program. On this last point I have no doubt Doctor von Braun was and still is absolutely correct. There is no doubt that shuttle operations and the public attention they would have generated would be a decisive factor in an acceleration of the space station buildup. Instead the ongoing program is limping along."




Another incredible project from the early shuttle days: a 3 m diameter, ESA infrared telescope to be carried by spacelab !

 
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Some people clearly are still caught in the allure of the STS System - though they do lack our 30 years of "operational" experience with them which exposed some serious failings in the whole thing. And Von Braun despite Terminal Cancer still pushing with all the strength he has left.

And STS is still making itself heard, just not as loud as it was IOTL, for now.
 
I guess the best thing that happen to Space Shuttle in this TL, that it got canceled in 1973 !

Let me explane in some detail
The Space Shuttle that flew in 1981, Is a design from 1973, means that Companies working on parameter specified in 1973 by NASA.
The First Orbiters build in 1975, OV-101 and OV-099 were very heavy.
The program had allot setbacks like it SSME qualification and Heat-shield, last was fixed by invention of new Glue, TWO Years after planned first launch date.

With delay of a decade would help the Shuttle program allot
New Alloys, Composite materials, that Glue or better Heat-shield, better computers and fly by wire, better manufacture technology.
It would be a better Space Shuttle compare to 1973 design.
 

Archibald

Banned
The shuttle ghost is going to haunt NASA for quite a long time to come. They had a bitter pill to swallow: they repeatedly told everybody the shuttle needed to come first to make a space station viable... and now they are build the said space station with expendable rockets. Talk about a (forced on them) 180 degree volte face.

Meanwhile, on an alternate universe far away... :cool:

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Lockheed (2) - bribery scandal

Archibald

Banned

March 1976

WILL LOCKHEED BRIBERY SCANDAL TAINTS NASA AND OTHER SPACE AGENCIES ?

President of Lockheed Carl Kotchian has been sacked from the company this week. He was a key figure in what became one of the biggest bribery scandals ever. His testimony before a Senate committee last year contributed to sweeping reforms and passage of U.S. laws against Americans and U.S. firms paying off foreign government officials.

His admission had dramatic political reverberations overseas. So far it has led to the downfall of Japan's ruling government, discredited the Dutch monarchy and set off official inquiries in Colombia, Turkey, Italy, West Germany and Saudi Arabia.

The Senate probe eventually revealed that payoffs, bribes and kickbacks had been part of doing business overseas for American companies for decades. Although Lockheed and Kotchian received the brunt of the attention, more than 400 U.S. companies eventually admitted to paying foreign officials more than $700 million, or more than $2.5 billion in today's money.

After his dismissal Kotchian said Lockheed was a scapegoat and that the payoffs -- common throughout the 1960s and early 1970s -- were part of the way the "game" was played overseas. He maintained that no payoffs were made to American officials and no American laws were violated.

"If we were back in those times, I'd do it again," Kotchian said in an interview yesterday. "In present times, with the change in attitude and standards that are being applied now, I don't think that I would."

The scandal overshadowed a notable aviation career that spanned 35 years and paralleled Lockheed's rise to become one of the biggest aerospace companies in the world. Kotchian was named president of the firm in 1967 and until last week -- when forced to resign amid the bribery scandal -- helped oversee development of several notable aircraft, including the C-5 Galaxy military transport, the SR-71 Blackbird spy plane and the L-1011 TriStar passenger jet.

But it would be the L-1011 that would spell the end of Kotchian's aerospace career. It also almost killed the company, financially and politically.

After two prosperous decades from 1965 Lockheed new projects all failed to bring money to the company.

The SR-71 broad family total a maximum of 50 aircrafts, not much considering the sheer cost and complexity of the aircraft.

The AH-56 Cheyenne compound helicopter has been another failure - the Army cancelled the program in 1972.

The C-5A Galaxy giant transport plane has been a disaster - with a $2 billion overrun, cracks in the wings and a collapsing undercarriage, among other teething issues. The Air force cut orders to 80 aircrafts.

Lockheed bread and butter has been the F-104 Starfighter but that aircraft is now obsolete, and was tarred by an horrific accident rate. The German air force bought 900 Starfighters of which nearly 300 crashed, killing more than a hundred pilots. 32 German widows intented a class action against Lockheed and, after a ten-year battle, obtained 1.2 million of dollars of repairs.

Kotchian spearheaded the development of the L-1011 jet, which Lockheed began building without a firm commitment from a single airline, a risky move that eventually cost the company billions of dollars.

In 1971, the U.S. government bailed out the company with a $250-million loan as rising development costs for the L-1011 and other military programs were about to put the company out of business. Such move was rather unprecedented and the hidden reason was Lockheed involvment with submarine launch ballistic missiles like the Polaris and Trident.
Had Lockheed been dismantled, those key strategic weapons would have been setback by years.
Yet, only four years after that expensive bailout a government panel set up to oversee the bailout began investigating whether Lockheed had violated its obligations by not disclosing foreign payments.


In a Senate hearing last week, Kotchian said he had traveled to Japan in 1972 to try to interest the Japanese in the jetliner. He said he was approached twice within his first day in Tokyo for payoffs of 500 million yen, or $1.7 million.

He said he made payments to representatives who made "clear" the money would end up in the office of Japan's then Prime Minister Kakuei Tanaka. Another was made to a consultant who said it was needed to gain the interest of an intimate of Tanaka, who was later convicted and sentenced to four years in jail stemming from Kotchian's testimony.

In his memoir, Kotchian wrote that by the time the deal was completed, payments had been made to officials of the airline and six other politicians. Lockheed eventually sold 21 planes, worth $430 million at the time.
In all, Kotchian said he made $12 million in payments to Japanese politicians and businessmen.

"If Lockheed had not remained competitive by the rules of the games as then played, we would not have sold the TriStar's jumbo jet and would not have provided work for tens of thousands of our employees or contributed to the future of our corporation," he said.

During the Senate hearings, Kotchian also said Lockheed had bribed government officials in Italy, Germany and the Netherlands in the 1960s to sell military fighter jets. A central figure in the scandal is Frantz Joseph Strauss, the all powerfull German politician.
There are insisting rumours within the Luftwaffe that back in 1958 the French Mirage III was the prefered option but Starfighters were bought instead, with catastrophic results.

"We don't condone this but . . . it was the only way we could sell aircraft," Kotchian said.
Kotchian's son, Robert, said he never sensed that his father had any regrets or remorse about the payoffs.
"He felt he did the right thing for the good of the company," Kotchian said. "He felt that if he didn't do it, somebody else would. I think he was stuck between a rock and a hard place."

and now Lockheed scandal may reach even further – into space !

Four years ago Lockheed won a hard-fought bid for NASA space tug. Since then their Agena has become an ubiquitous space vehicle that was sold to many aspiring space powers.
What Lockheed did was to use the old Starfighter connections and networks to sell its space tug to Canada, Japan, and the European space agency that includes Germany, Italy and the Netherlands. All these countries bought F-104s for their air forces; all use the Agena space tug for varied missions.

The Church committee found Lockheed guilty of bribing governments to buy Starfighters and Hercules and Tristar transports. Quite inevitably the committee raised suspicion over that other Lockheed best-seller, that is, the Agena.
Senator William Proxmire made public his order for a congressional investigation into whether NASA Administrator James Beggs had violated conflict-of-interest rules when he awarded Lockheed the space tug contract in 1972. Beggs denied the charges, and they were dropped after a brief inquiry.

Morale at Lockheed has been low, particularly at the famed Skunk Works that imagined so many outstanding flying machines.

Ben Rich recently suceeded legendary Clarence Johnson that aparently resigned in disgust after the bribery scandals.

 
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Lockheed renaissance will be through stealth aircraft technology (as per OTL) but also thanks to the Agena space tug, which applications gonna be huge. There are plenty of interesting missions to be done by the Agena, some missions paralleling the lost Shuttle. :cool:
 
OTL Lockheed scandal let to resignation from Office for allot politicians even damage reputation of Royals.

Franz Josef Strauss survived the scandal, because as Federal government look into scandal at Luftwaffe found no documentation of Starfighter Deal
The files were destroyed by "mistake" in 1962, so it was impossible for inquisition board to find anything against Strauss.
One of the Key figure was the General Leutnant Josef Kammhuber,
Who lay the specification for new Multirole Combat Aircraft: fly at High Mach 2, take off from short runway, has to do Bombing (with option to drop Atomic bomb),
interception, dogfight, reconnaissance and support ground Troopps in combat.
While Josef Kammhuber was a very personal Friend of minister Franz Josef Strauß and impinge on Strauß to acquire such a Aircraft
But there was problem, there was no aircraft in end of 1950s that fit this Demands, in Close selection came.

- Saunders-Roe SR.177 (in Design Phase)
- Grumman F11F
- Mirage III (Prototype not ready)
- Lockheed F-104

So Josef Kammhuber send the testpilot Walter Krupinski for comparison flights of models already build.
Here start something strange:
Krupinski test flight the F-104 first, according some german source he never Tested the Grumman F11F
Then visit Dassault and insist to fly the Mirage I subsonic Prototype and not wait until the Mirage III Prototype is ready.
Krupinski had "serous problem" to fly the Mirage I and writhe a extreme negative Report not recommending this Aircraft
This report was handed by Kammhuber personally to minister Franz Josef Strauß in his Office.


in Netherlands it let to a constitutional crisis
because Prince Bernhard had taken $1.1 million bribe from Lockheed for Starfighter Deal
to make matter worst Prince Bernhard refused to answer, stating: "I am above such things".
Queen Juliana threatened to abdicate if Bernhard was prosecuted.
Nice POD for TL about republican Netherlands.


Belgium had also issue with Lockheed
Next bribes for Starfighter also were also Lockheed Airliner for SABENA.
but that fact was ignored by Journalist and government do the Political chaos that ruled the Kingdom in 1970s and 1980s
Irony it was not Lockheed bribery scandals but the Italian Agusta bribery scandal and Dassault bribery scandals
That brought the Downfall for old political order in 1997...
 

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Strauss gave up ministry of defense in 1962 after six years (so he was the one who overviewed the Starfighter buyout). His successor lost his son in a Starfighter crash in 1970.

I've watched that movie yesterday, it is quite good
 
Strauss gave up ministry of defense in 1962 after six years (so he was the one who overviewed the Starfighter buyout). His successor lost his son in a Starfighter crash in 1970.

I've watched that movie yesterday, it is quite good

He not gave up Ministry of Defense, he was forced because of Spiegel scandal
the major political scandals of post war West Germany

Short version:
in 1962 Der Spiegel, publish the Conrad Ahlers article "Partially Ready to Defend" about a NATO exercise called "Fallex 62".
and the disastrous result: that Germans forces were only partially ready to defend the country and NATO needed more nuclear weapons to "defend" West Germany.
Rudolf Augstein editor-in-chief of newsmagazine accused of high treason,
actually Wolfgang Stammberger, the Minister of Justice, had to deal with this matter, but left out of all decisions.
because minister of defense Franz Josef Strauß run the investigation of ministry of Justice !!!
He order that Augstein and editors-in-chief Claus Jacobi and Johannes Engel were arrested, also reporter Conrad Ahlers how was on vacation in Spain.
Strauss overstepped every legality of his office. even commit perjury in front of Parlament !
Minister of the Interior Hermann Höcherl paraphrased that as, Strauss was "somewhat outside of legality",
While the Journalist united protested against Strauss and this return to Dark ages of National Socialism !
Government coalition party FDP was left out all political decisions in this matter, start there minister to resign bringing the coalition to edge of collapse.
The FDP demand Franz Josef Strauß is remove from office other wise, The FDP goes coalition with Socialist party !
Chancellor Adenauer drop Strauß, he resign from office on 30. November,
finally the Bundesgerichtshof (highest German court of appeals) refused to open trial against Augstein and co, do lack of evidence of high treason...

This scandal was turing point in west Germany from authoritarian state to a modern democracy with Freedom of Press.
it was end of Franz Josef Strauß political career in west Germany, he manage to remain Minister-President of Bavaria. by claiming "he was victim of leftist and socialist conspiracy"...
 
This scandal was turing point in west Germany from authoritarian state to a modern democracy with Freedom of Press.
it was end of Franz Josef Strauß political career in west Germany, he manage to remain Minister-President of Bavaria. by claiming "he was victim of leftist and socialist conspiracy"...

I did agree with everything you said until this sentence. That ist ridiciously over the top. Germany in the sixties was not an AUTORITAIRAN state.

Strauss committed autoritarian actions. Maybe a crime. A scandal at least. He got, what he deserved. But that ridicoulous accusation is not even slightly based in reality, much more in legends of an autoritarian thinking of itselves - just from the other side.
 
I did agree with everything you said until this sentence. That ist ridiciously over the top. Germany in the sixties was not an AUTORITAIRAN state.

Strauss committed autoritarian actions. Maybe a crime. A scandal at least. He got, what he deserved. But that ridicoulous accusation is not even slightly based in reality, much more in legends of an autoritarian thinking of itselves - just from the other side.

I had Problem to translate "Obrigkeitsstaat" only english word i found was authoritarian state :(
 
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