A world without Hieronymus Bosch

i just read a story by Rudy Rucker in wich Hieronymus bosch has vanished from his timeline and the difference of the "new" timelline is remarkable.
for example, no horror-movies.

I can´t believe this strong effects would occur. But could you imagine some?

What other artists non-existence would have an effect on OTL?
 

Hendryk

Banned
Of course there would still be horror movies. The kaidan-style Japanese ghost stories would be around whether Bosch is there or not.

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why no horror movies? i dont get it
the history of art would be a lot diferent
Breugel and the entire Breugel family would have somewhat diferent motifs
possibly some later schools would go trough the subjects Bosch worked on

the details and stile of Bosch was definitly unique, but the general subjects were mostly comon, as was the technique (althou i think he made some developments of his own do)
still he did them in a remarcable way from a fascinating point of view
but that does not mean sooner or later same motifs are not repeated, olnly in a diferent way

later developments such as the surealists would also have some divergence

and so on

but i still dont get the no horror movies thing

of the other artists you could imagine Giotto would have a serious effect
as well as most of the big Renesance names

anny of the main impresionists would change something
Dega or Sezane especially
then ofcourse the more you get into the 20th century the more each of the big names counts
Picasso, Maljevich, Kandinsky, Mondrian all the ones you learn in school, especially the ones forming schools or movements or writing theoretic work
no Melies would change a huge deal
now that might mean no horror movies, but not that likely
possibly much later science fiction
no futurism would mean a lot, even politically, Marinetty geting run ower by a car before he gets somwhere
Griffith, Dziga Vertov, Lang, Renoir, Welles, Godard, Ford any one of those and manny others might make a huge diference, the farther back they go the more influence they had as the first ones basically layed the foundations for other filmakers
Beuis and definitley Duchamp
then people like Lucas and Spilberg definitly, Monthi Pithons, Linch
Disney
Tex Avery
practically all of the early comic artists, again the earlier on the more important, like Mckay, but also Moore, Moebius etc..
the large numbers of people working on indipendant animation, especially the ones inventing new methods and technologies

combinations of people too, like if Giger and Linch never got together there would be no Alien
no conceptualists/postconceptualists/arte povera would do alot damage

eventually you get deep in the 80is and 90is and nothing really matters individually theres such hyperproduction

and yes one that can be said would truly change something is winsor McCay his animated short film Sinking of Luisitania is said by some to be one of the main reasons for popular suport of America entering WWI, as it was shown all ower the nation, more or less as propaganda
not to mentio his role in early animation

im guessing theres hundreds of examples like that, even more direct
 
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Nice picture, hendry and an elaborate answer broz!
Makes me think of what kind of artist HAS been ISOTED and our world lacks.

But the mentioned hyperproduction since the 90ies...
 
And the Qividoq - mountain wanderer of the Inuit.
As well as the Angakok -Shaman making up Tupilak to assist him against foes:

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Hendryk

Banned
And the Qividoq - mountain wanderer of the Inuit.
As well as the Angakok -Shaman making up Tupilak to assist him against foes:
There aren't many movies based on Inuit folklore though. Whereas Japanese ghost stories have become something of an export product since "Ring", what with the Hollywood remakes and all.
 
There aren't many movies based on Inuit folklore though. Whereas Japanese ghost stories have become something of an export product since "Ring", what with the Hollywood remakes and all.

Quite - just to say there's inspiration for a horror movie Hieronymus Bosch or not.
 
There aren't many movies based on Inuit folklore though. Whereas Japanese ghost stories have become something of an export product since "Ring", what with the Hollywood remakes and all.

But there should be. I had an inuit-fairy-tale-book when I was a kid. Man, they were often quite ugly - but seldom mean or evil. I liked them.
 
You would still be having doctors write medical textbooks with interesting illustrations. You would have people writing books on autopsies or for training coroners. One of those people might start writing fiction, or writing movies. He might have a family member with artistic skills start drawing or painting based on those textbooks. He might have weird dreams which he writes down...
He might write a movie based on one of his real cases and it generates an interest in similar movies.
 
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