a Valkyrie Rises Over Europe, a Alternate Story of the Cold War

The Soviet Civil War's been already ongoing for a while now Admiral, I have even directly mentioned it and discussed the matter a few times before in update and out of update actually. :p

Really? Ok how did I miss that? Still the ending makes me think Vietnam on steroids is about to happen.
 
We should still be worried about it though. Last thing any of us want to see is TTL's Soviet Union get screwed over ever more. At least I don't want to see it.

Well tough luck, it's unfortunately happening (;)). And hell, we haven't even got to the good part of the war when America decides it wants to try and fight a land war in Asia yet!. :p

Really? Ok how did I miss that? Still the ending makes me think Vietnam on steroids is about to happen.

It's fine, we miss stuff sometimes. it's cool. As for you're notion that a Vietnam on steroids is about to happen...... you may want to hold on to you're seat, cause things are soon going to get very bumpy.
 
Well tough luck, it's unfortunately happening (;)). And hell, we haven't even got to the good part of the war when America decides it wants to try and fight a land war in Asia yet!. :p



It's fine, we miss stuff sometimes. it's cool. As for you're notion that a Vietnam on steroids is about to happen...... you may want to hold on to you're seat, cause things are soon going to get very bumpy.

Not only in Asia, in Siberia.* One of the most inhospitable places man has found above sea level to colonize. I may not want to see the Soviet's suffer more (but I am resigned to that), but I think this will be past Vietnam on steroids. My best to the troops.

*And central Asia, but Siberia is a worse place to fight.
 
Thank god there is still major resistance in the Reich even if it's only at at the eastern fringe.:D Poor Soviet Union (I don't think calling them Russia isn't appropriate anymore considering the Russian part of Russia is German owned) Just curious how a border war can go on during a civil war?
 
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Not only in Asia, in Siberia.* One of the most inhospitable places man has found above sea level to colonize. I may not want to see the Soviet's suffer more (but I am resigned to that), but I think this will be past Vietnam on steroids. My best to the troops.

*And central Asia, but Siberia is a worse place to fight.

If the disease ridden jungles of Southeast Asia were hellish beyond compare for the average American grunt that fought in Vietnam (which it was of course). I literally can not imagine how horrid the nearly inhospitable in some places, frozen and cold wastes of Siberia will be for the unlucky men that are sent over to assist the Soviets in the Civil War.

God speed to the troops. They are really going to need all the help they can get.

Thank god there is still major resistance in the Reich even if it's only at at the ester fringe.:D Poor Soviet Union (I don't think cling them Russia is appropriate anymore considering the Russian part of Russia is German owned) Just curious how a border war can go on during a civil war?

Technically, they are still Russia in the sense that the Soviet Union is a state that consists of at least part of Russia with a majority Russian population. But I understand you're point regarding that.

It can mostly because it's a relatively low level intensity and fairly limited border conflict that essentially exists for both sides to remind the other that they still exist; of course there are other reasons for the conflict, including and not limited too the certain lack of... genius among Soviet leadership. But the first reason is part of it.
 
I feel like the Soviet leadership is needlessly wasting manpower on the Reich when it could be crushing rebels to deal then use full force in border war as whats the point in dealing with Nazis when you could lose authority in your own nation. Also see your point about Russia.
 
I feel like the Soviet leadership is needlessly wasting manpower on the Reich when it could be crushing rebels to deal then use full force in border war as whats the point in dealing with Nazis when you could lose authority in your own nation. Also see your point about Russia.

While what you say is very much the truth, we must remember that the Soviet leadership here isn't exactly the brightest bunch on the Planet Earth if you want to be honest about it (especially Beria). The Central Asian nationalist rebels are largely seen as a afterthought by Irkutsk at this point in time; seeing as they haven't gotten strong enough to reach the point where they become the theoretical uncontrollable threat that would be able to tear the Soviet Union apart by the ramshackle structure that is keeping it together at this point in time (yet). The Red Army has also been relatively to a certain degree successful in limiting the overall territorial gains of these groups. Leaving the somewhat delusional Soviet leadership in a bit of victory euphoria as they begin to buy their own bull-crap in the bucket loads and start to honestly believe that the Civil War will be over with any day now.

Through, if you want to be brutally honest. Rebels or not. The Nazis are always going to be top priority for the Russians no matter what. To pretty much every single Russian; The fact stands that Mother Russia isn't complete and whole until the "West" is reclaimed from the Germans, it is not whole until Stalingrad and the entire Eastern Front is avenged, it is not whole until the Nazi menace is destroyed forever. It's a point of national pride for the Russians, one that they (understandably of course) can't and will not let go of until the mission has been completed, someway or somehow.
 
Too true :( I don't see why it has to be a border war and not throwing stones until rebels crushed then border war.



I think the Soviets need a change of leadership for the sake of survival.

Also one the UAR (United Arab Republic) well this mean no islamic militarism or Islam rival as I felt part of the reasons for it's rise was the failure of Pan-Arabsim.

Here's a song originally about Australian asylum seeker policy but can apply to those poor people in Eastern Europe whose lives are practically concentration camps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKjhsQqzWwk
 
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A good read, but I think it needs less full stops and more commas. Or maybe it's just that I prefer longer sentences over shorter ones.
 
Are there resistance groups in Germany? I mean people like the Scholls etc.


There will be some Social Democrat and Communist resistance groups scattered around. Military Resistance has probably been temporarily silenced due to the victory of the Reich and Speers policy changes, but could flare up again once the Reich starts to decline.

The Most important resistance groups are most likely church based. I assume that Speer isn't as harsh on them as Hitler was, due to placating the conservative Christians especially in the army (There were quite many of those, though they are often the old guard).
 
In Arabia? Nationalism

You are on the money with that assumption, and likely in the form of Ba'athism and Nasserist Pan-Arabism as well; if you want to be specific. The rise of these ideologies is already prevalent and coming as one examines the events that have already occurred in the Middle East and Egypt so far, as well as those events that I have planned to happen in future updates but haven't have actually happened yet. Through I do imagine that both ideologies will likely end up (as Nasserist Pan-Arabism already kind of has in the UAR) being spun and corrupted into more of a quote on quote fascist style populistic style of ideology as influence from Europe seeps in and deludes the original socialist undertones of Ba'athism and other Pan-Arab ideologies.
 
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Well it appear Iran will need to dramatically increase military spending but should be safe in that Iranians aren't arabs

And for the Nazi influence

GOD DAMIT WE HAVE ENOUGH FACISM AS IT IS

no offense to the Kaiser or the time line just to bloody Fascists in general
 
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Another question for Kaiser has there been changes to the Hitler Youth since Speer's rise? and what is the status of Nuremberg rallies? BTW sorry if I am repeating an already asked question.
 
Another question for Kaiser has there been changes to the Hitler Youth since Speer's rise? and what is the status of Nuremberg rallies? BTW sorry if I am repeating an already asked question.

No problem mate, while this particular question hasn't been asked before. I am happy to answer any and all questions anyone has on something in the TL.

As for you're question, the only change that has occurred to the Hitler was the group absorbing the German Girl's Youth League and it's members; facilitating the expansion of the Hitler Youth into one larger co-ed organization back in 1951 or so; outside of that. The organization itself is essentially the same as it has always been.

On the matter of rallies, there hasn't been a Nuremberg Rally held by the Nazi Party ITTL since 1939. It's overall importance within Nazi doctrine and to the German state has largely been supplanted thanks in part to the Siegtag (Victory Day) and Rot-Platz (Red Square) Parades that occur every year; both of which have ended up surpassing Nuremberg in overall importance.
 
Interesting, considering Nazi plans to increase the number of German to 120million that dons't surprise me also the amount of interaction between the groups before the war would make unifying easier/beneficial. And I can see that happing since no rallies were held their during the war it would lose it's importance.
 
Interesting, considering Nazi plans to increase the number of German to 120 million that doesn't surprise me, also the amount of interaction between the groups before the war would make unifying easier/beneficial. .

Did you just imply what I really think you implied?, or am I just going crazy over here on my end? :p.

On a more serious note, you are right about the fact that unifying the groups would be overall by a fairly easy and smart thing to do thanks to the amount of interaction the Girl's Leagues and the Hitler Youth that occured before, during and post war; interaction which had led to the groups interests and goals largely being intertwined to a great degree. So unifying them would ultimately just be the next logical step, and it would also remove alot of the unnecessary bureaucratic nonsense that two separate groups would create compared to just one.
 
Well on the first note there are statistics that confirm what I inferred happened on a major scale much to percents alarm resulting in high rated of unwed mothers. :eek: This was most percents reaction and justifiably so. Unwed mothers were called the Führer's brides.

I found this out from Rise and Fall of the Third Reich TV show. (Part one out of two)

And there were actually medals for the number of Children born! Counts form 4 or above

Just to clarify beneficial for the NAZIS not anybody else

Part of the Reason for the earlier state meant about fascism.

Another question related to the state of the German and American armies (including Air forces and Navies) how are they?
 
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