A united Spain, Portugal and all of South America

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This can be done at any time from 1900 to the late 1930s

Perhaps the best time is during the great depression.

In Spain in 1936 there were about 8,000 land owners and millions of landless peasants. There were fewer land owners the earlier one starts. Give the land to the peasants and now you have millions of loyal voters and 8,000 unhappy voters, easy math. The military will do nothing because almost all in the military will have family members who have now become landowners and the military is not going to fight to take it from their own family members.

This if done before the civil war will prevent it from happening at all. And if done during will give the republicans a huge boost and may give a quick, with in a few months of declaring these new laws grant victory.

Now to the interesting parts

The same thing can then be done in Portugal, you have a few thousand landowners and millions of landless peasants do the same thing there and you can unite the Iberian peninsula, and declare it as a new country with two official languages.

AND now the even more interesting thing, the exact same thing can be done in South America, and unite it all as one country, give the landless peasants the land make it the law, and you now have millions of loyal people for a whole generation and the military will do nothing because they have family members who are now land owners.

These are some interesting possibilities, but where never tried because land reform was always lagging and few if any just looked at the numbers, a few thousand land owners, millions of landless peasants, each person has 1 vote, easy way to win every election. And obviously make sure the election system in each country has 1 person 1 vote.
 
Uniting Iberia and maybe South America isn't by itself ASB, but what you're proposing, within this timeframe, probably is. One can't just start seizing and redistributing land willy nilly. While there'd certainly be some in the lower class who'd be happy, there'd be plenty of people who are unlanded who like the way the current system functions. That, plus all the people who own property, is enough to overthrow the state. Nevermind the fact that if this actually happened with any kind of speed, famine would follow shortly afterwards. One could try gradual land reform, and it might have some success, but it's not going to create what you're talking about.
 
This is perfectly logical if one just looks at the numbers

Each person has 1 vote

You make 10s of millions happy and loyal and a few thousand unhappy and not loyal. You will win every election. The unhappy people have no way to resist or do anything about it.
Dude this isn't how this works
 
Uniting Iberia and maybe South America isn't by itself ASB, but what you're proposing, within this timeframe, probably is. One can't just start seizing and redistributing land willy nilly. While there'd certainly be some in the lower class who'd be happy, there'd be plenty of people who are unlanded who like the way the current system functions. That, plus all the people who own property, is enough to overthrow the state. Nevermind the fact that if this actually happened with any kind of speed, famine would follow shortly afterwards. One could try gradual land reform, and it might have some success, but it's not going to create what you're talking about.

I hereby declare that the land is to be granted to the people living and working on it, the former land owners will be granted their houses and enough land to feed their families.

That is all that is needed

You are wrong that they can resist and overthrow the state, I gave you the numbers. 8,000 vs millions and the military is with you, the 8000 have no capability to overthrow the state

And no there will be no famine, in all of these countries there was almost no mechanical or organized farming, the same techniques that had been used since the middle ages where still being used, if anything production will increase because now each peasants works for himself and does not have to give away his labour to the landowner who just wastes the money and does not reinvest it.
 
This sounds more likely to go the way of Zimbabwe. Do these peasants know how to run a farm? Have the capital and resources to sustain it? Understand how to distribute surplus crops to market? What is the exact plan for who and who does not receive land? How will the land be taxed? Will the former landowners be compensated? If not, expect both a brain drain and capital flight as the rich flee this revolutionary state that is determined to seize their assets (or expect a civil war as not EVERYONE is going to be happy with this shake up). When the crop yields drop, and they will as inexperienced new landowners make the transition, what is the government's plan to feed the nation? The urban population will definitely not be happy with starving. With this precedent, will the Socialists attempt to seize more property in the name of helping the people and the economy (with the land redistribution obviously creating issues and thus starting a downward spiral)?
 
This sounds like someone is getting a little Marxist potentially. I don’t see uniting Spain and Portugal that late in the game as feasible, nor do I see Brazil in the same boat with Spanish South America, buuuuuuuut if a Bolivar-type Marxist wants to unite the non-Mexico states into a USSR-style Spanish union, a Socialist Union of Latino Republics (probably abbreviated USRL) it could work as a temporary union. That is, until communism goes to shit in the 80s.
 
This sounds more likely to go the way of Zimbabwe. Do these peasants know how to run a farm? Have the capital and resources to sustain it? Understand how to distribute surplus crops to market? What is the exact plan for who and who does not receive land? How will the land be taxed? Will the former landowners be compensated? If not, expect both a brain drain and capital flight as the rich flee this revolutionary state that is determined to seize their assets (or expect a civil war as not EVERYONE is going to be happy with this shake up). When the crop yields drop, and they will as inexperienced new landowners make the transition, what is the government's plan to feed the nation? The urban population will definitely not be happy with starving. With this precedent, will the Socialists attempt to seize more property in the name of helping the people and the economy (with the land redistribution obviously creating issues and thus starting a downward spiral)?

You are confusing different countries and different issues.

Let us look at Spain first

Spain in 1936 has 8,000 landowners who live comfortable lives on the labour of the landless peasants. The farming techniques used are the same ones that have been used for 100s of years, since the middle ages. There have been little improvements in techniques and little implementation of technology. The landless peasants work all day and give away all their labour so that the land owners can live comfortable lives.

The peasants are working the same way as their parents and great grand parents down the line for 100s of years. Give these landless peasants the land and they know exactly what to do because they have been doing it all their lives. This will increase production since now they landless peasants are working for themselves and get to keep all of their labour.

Again let me repeat the 8,000 land owners are 8,000 and they contribute very little to society they just live comfortable lives. There will be no brain drain, instead there will be a brain increase because now the peasants children can go to schools, and there will be more economic activity since this parasite class are not holding the people back.

Your whole assumption is based on scenario that did not exist in Spain. The opposite will happen of what you write.
 
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This sounds like someone is getting a little Marxist potentially. I don’t see uniting Spain and Portugal that late in the game as feasible, nor do I see Brazil in the same boat with Spanish South America, buuuuuuuut if a Bolivar-type Marxist wants to unite the non-Mexico states into a USSR-style Spanish union, a Socialist Union of Latino Republics (probably abbreviated USRL) it could work as a temporary union. That is, until communism goes to shit in the 80s.

No you are missing the obvious.

In each country there are millions and millions of landless peasants and a few thousand land owners.

The math speaks for itself.

The only ideology would be 1 person 1 vote and 1 unified country.

By doing this and my proposed land reform you will end up with some type of democratic system that is to the left on the left right spectrum.

I am not talking about communism or Marxism, only that the land be given to those who work it, 1 person 1 vote and 1 unified country. There wont be any type of communism because millions now have become property owners. So you will have some type of left wing democratic market economy system.
 
Ignoring the question of whether the land reform is possible/would work, how would it lead to a unification of Spain, Portugal, and S. America?
 
Easy expropriation is wishful thinking - can be done, but will be way more damaging and difficult than you think.

Union of independent nations 'because close cultural ties' is plain ASB.

One (who and why?) does not start expropriating stuff from a privileged class (able to fund resistance and corrupt enforcers) without strong backlash, amid strong suspicions that more breaking of law will follow, and the results won't be fast enough that the policy might appear as good.
 
I don't quite get what OP is going for here. This seems like a bit of a stretch of plausibility, but the question is how, not whether it's morally/economically justified. So how?
 
Ignoring the question of whether the land reform is possible/would work, how would it lead to a unification of Spain, Portugal, and S. America?

In Spain you now have millions of people who love you and 8,000 who do not, you will win every election.

You also now have the whole military behind you since everyone there has a family member who has become a landowner.

You talk with like minded people in Portugal and they declare the same thing, and you help them declare it in every city, town, province, region with the help of your military.

In each country the process is repeated.

Your whole ideology is 1 country 1 vote per person and land redistribution.
 
Easy expropriation is wishful thinking - can be done, but will be way more damaging and difficult than you think.

Union of independent nations 'because close cultural ties' is plain ASB.

One (who and why?) does not start expropriating stuff from a privileged class (able to fund resistance and corrupt enforcers) without strong backlash, amid strong suspicions that more breaking of law will follow, and the results won't be fast enough that the policy might appear as good.

Let us look at Spain first

Spain has 8,000 land owners on one hand and millions and millions of landless peasants. The land owners almost all just live comfortable lives on the labour of the landless peasants. There will be no backlash 8,000 can do nothing vs millions and millions AND the government AND the military

When you give the millions and millions the land, the 8,000 can do nothing, and they can not fund anything or provide any type of resistance except writing strong letters.
 
I don't quite get what OP is going for here. This seems like a bit of a stretch of plausibility, but the question is how, not whether it's morally/economically justified. So how?

Let us first Start with Spain and the Republican rulers there

All they have to do is say that they hereby declare that the land is to be granted to the people living and working on it, the former land owners will be granted their houses and enough land to feed their families. And then that is the law.

In Spain you now have millions of people who love you and 8,000 who do not, you will win every election.

You also now have the whole military behind you since everyone in the military now has a family member who has become a landowner.

You talk with like minded people in Portugal and they declare the same thing in Portugal, and you help them declare it in every city, town, province, region with the help of your military.

In each country the process is repeated.

Your whole ideology is 1 united country, 1 vote per person and land redistribution.
 
Okay, then. This is really clearly more about some type of ideological axe grinding I'm not quite understanding, not actual history. Thread closed.
 
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