A twist during Taiping Rebellion : one more contender ?

Suddenly this idea just popped in my mind. What if, during the chaos and mess of Taiping rebellion, there emerges one more contender for the Mandate of Heaven ? A pretty random question, yes. But I'm rather curious what kind of results can a regime change in China during mid to late 19th century can be brought, or at least if attempted by people based on more naturally Chinese aspirations......
 
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Basically that during the Taiping rebellion is going on, somewhere in Northern China there emerges another contender for the Dragon Throne, only adheres a more traditionally Chinese values compared to the Taipings, or something like that wouldn't be possible at all ?
 
Bump. No thoughts ?

Basically that during the Taiping rebellion is going on, somewhere in Northern China there emerges another contender for the Dragon Throne, only adheres a more traditionally Chinese values compared to the Taipings, or something like that wouldn't be possible at all ?


You mean like those guys possibly?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nien_Rebellion

Came across them in a web game I was watching but which unfortunately folded before I had time to join. They ended up coming out on top but how likely they would be to win in reality I don't know.

Steve
 
You mean like those guys possibly?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nien_Rebellion

Came across them in a web game I was watching but which unfortunately folded before I had time to join. They ended up coming out on top but how likely they would be to win in reality I don't know.

Steve
The Qing were constantly worried that the British would side with the Taiping, since the latter were nominally protestant Christian. The British were, however, horrified at their communistic practices, and wouldn't have. However, I could see the British (and French) tactically linking up with those northern rebellions.
 
The Qing were constantly worried that the British would side with the Taiping, since the latter were nominally protestant Christian. The British were, however, horrified at their communistic practices, and wouldn't have. However, I could see the British (and French) tactically linking up with those northern rebellions.
I had an idea in which Perry or Americans in general go to Guangzhou or Nanjing / Tianjing and open Taiping China, establishing trade links between the US and the Heavenly Kingdom. Subsequently, American merchants could make a killing selling arms to the Taiping armies, and even more American missionaries would find their calling in converting the Chinese to Christianity (both of which happened on a smaller scale in OTL).
The Taiping also could have allied more successfully with the Nian rebels, diverting Qing attention long enough to give them time to consolidate the south, and eventually march on Beijing.
 
What if everyone who historically rebelled pre-1900s did so at the same time, Russian/Spanish Civil War style, in the late 19th century? Such an event would feature the Hui in Yunnan, the Taiping, an earlier Society of Righteous and Harmonious Fists, Mongols, rogue Han Chinese generals, the White Lotus Society, the Uyghur, Tibetans, and random peasants.
 

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What if everyone who historically rebelled pre-1900s did so at the same time, Russian/Spanish Civil War style, in the late 19th century? Such an event would feature the Hui in Yunnan, the Taiping, an earlier Society of Righteous and Harmonious Fists, Mongols, rogue Han Chinese generals, the White Lotus Society, the Uyghur, Tibetans, and random peasants.

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This TL must happen. >.>
 
Hmmm. The best guy to write this tl should be Hendryk guys, after all isn't he A guy who knows a lot about Chinese history..... Quick someone PM him to make the TL!!!!
 
subversivepanda or Faeelin also have experience writing about Chinese times of turmoil, too.

Going by Wikipedia, here are some other groups I missed in my initial proposal: Muslims in the west (Xinjiang, Qinghai and Gansu), Hui outside of Yunnan (Shaanxi, Gansu and Ningxia), and of course western-styled republican revolutionaries.

Just how would we characterize the Nien Rebellion, anyways? I just realized I'm not sure which category they would fall under from my list of historical revolters during the Qing.
 
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