a truly Spanish Civil War

Tsao

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Had Spain been in a conflict before this particular one for this generals to gain experience in? Specifically, one reflecting World War 1 style warfare?

Because really, the first phases of the Spanish Civil War were basically WW1 style with trenches and stuff, because of how bad the weapons technology on both sides was actually.

The Spanish Army of Africa fought in the Rif War against Abd El-Krim, as did the Spanish Legion.
 
The Spanish Army of Africa fought in the Rif War against Abd El-Krim, as did the Spanish Legion.

Okay, see, that experience really probably didn't prepare them for what the Spanish Civil War ended up being like.

Their advantage came from much better foreign aid, and a world that was more scared of Communism than Fascism or the radical right at that point in time(not for entirely bad reasons I'll concede, but it causes issues.)
 
Okay, see, that experience really probably didn't prepare them for what the Spanish Civil War ended up being like.

Their advantage came from much better foreign aid, and a world that was more scared of Communism than Fascism or the radical right at that point in time(not for entirely bad reasons I'll concede, but it causes issues.)
You've got catalonia-blinders on. The war around Madrid and in the south was very different to the war on the Aragon front.
 

person

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Well, the first question must be: how is the situation in Spain and how does the civil war starts in this TL. For starters, no Nazi ruled Germany means no Popular Front. This causes industrial size butterflies in a number of countries... Will the republicans even win the '36 election ? The electorial system (sorta like the current Greek system) heavily favored the largest coalition. If the communists are still playing deaf, dumb and blind, waiting for the revolution, that may just push the bonus to the other team... Now I have no doubt that something nasty is in store for Spain in this TL, both sides were far too apt to see politics as a Zero sum game, and generally very good at pissing the other side off just for the heck of it.


your right, so nationalists win the election and the POUM-CNT-CPS rise up against them giving the lefts the initiative advantage and a more time to organize.

I'll admit I was partly just trying to find a way for the anarchists to be dominant (internet cookie if can guess what union I belong to hint: it starts with i and ends with w)
 
I'll admit I was partly just trying to find a way for the anarchists to be dominant

The simplest POD to help the left would be if someone gives Largo and Negrin a session with a surgical 2x4" cluebar, so the gold is not shipped to Moscow.
Make Stalin come up with a pricelist and pay per shipment.
This will also reduce communist influence, and keep them one power block among several, rather than the 800 pound gorilla they were iOTL.


Another option would be to have some crisis in '36, that would keep Berlin and Rome wanting to avoid any new complications.
Britain would likely still want to contain the situation and would probably lean on France, just as in OTL.
 
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