A True October Surprise: The Added Surprises
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But this, this was horrible. It had a candidate who was super low-energy win over the most high-energy candidate ever. /s
And Eisenhower also felt that Israel's occupation of the Sinai during the Suez crisis was illegal, and sparred with the Democratic Congress over this issue.
Nice update, somewhat similar to 1990 IOTL.
That was partially the inspiration for the final vote totals, I admit.
The infobox was also partially inspired by both the challenge of working Trump into TTL as well as coming up with something that feels familiar to anyone who reads No Southern Strategy (except Brown isn't a social conservative).
I make the best infoboxes, believe me. My infobox series is huge, and if that's huge something else* must be huge as well.
*-My like count, you perverts.
Crooked Ron Brown lost his place on the Democratic ticket because he couldn't help being corrupt. Sad!
You know, me and G-dawg planned to use Trump for something in NSS even before he got the nomination (maybe even before he started racking up primary wins), but due to bad time management the idea went from "interesting" to "it'll be kind of boring and overused" by the time we get to that part.
*sniff* Lazy Nofix couldn't get on the Trump Train in time. Sad!
Help me. I'm Trump-posting and I can't stop!
Gubernatorial elections
Like its presidential elections, American voters in all 50 states have gubernatorial elections every four years (two in New Hampshire and Vermont) to elect their state’s chief executive. Of the 48 states with four-year gubernatorial terms, most are elected during midterm elections instead of during presidential election years and a handful (Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, New Jersey, and Virginia) elect their governors in odd-numbered years. Governors are almost (but not always, such as with Texas) the most powerful person in their state government and have similar powers to the American president, but on the state level. Most states also allow the governor to appoint people to vacant Senate seats, making them important players on the national level as well. In fact, three of the last four presidents (Pete Wilson, Bob Riley and Deval Patrick) were sitting governors when they were elected, a possibility that voters are beginning to value executive experience over legislative expertise that every president elected from 1960 (John F. Kennedy) to 1992 (Walter D. Huddleston) had in lieu of previous gubernatorial experience.
The shift of the South away from the Democratic Party since the 1960s has resulted in the Republican Party being able to consistently break even with the Democratic Party in the number of governors it can get elected, despite its increasingly worse performance in New England, former stronghold of liberal Republicans. Several states’ internal politics have resulted in one party having a lock on the governor’s mansion for the foreseeable future, while others occasionally elect governors from the opposite party. In the 2014 midterms, for example, solidly-blue Rhode Island surprised pundits by electing former Senator Lincoln Chafee to the governor’s mansion while solidly-red Louisiana elected former Congresswoman Mary Landrieu to lead the Pelican State.
The shift of the South away from the Democratic Party since the 1960s has resulted in the Republican Party being able to consistently break even with the Democratic Party in the number of governors it can get elected, despite its increasingly worse performance in New England, former stronghold of liberal Republicans. Several states’ internal politics have resulted in one party having a lock on the governor’s mansion for the foreseeable future, while others occasionally elect governors from the opposite party. In the 2014 midterms, for example, solidly-blue Rhode Island surprised pundits by electing former Senator Lincoln Chafee to the governor’s mansion while solidly-red Louisiana elected former Congresswoman Mary Landrieu to lead the Pelican State.
Khuzestan War
The Khuzestan War was main theater of the Iranian Civil War after the failure of the post-Shah regime to create a unified government from the shaky coalition of forces that had overthrown the Pahlavi dynasty. Emboldened by the chaos, Iraqi President Saddam Hussein repudiated an earlier agreement that had ended Iraq's claims to the oil-rich Khuzestan province of Iran and sent his troops in to annex it. Despite the element of surprise and an Iran beset by civil war, the Iraqi advance into Khuzestan was surprisingly halted before it could reach the edge of the territory Hussein had claimed was Iraqi. Both factions opposing Iraq, the National Council for Iran (the shaky coalition of nationalists and liberals) and the Council of the Islamic Revolution (followers of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini), despite fighting fiercely throughout the rest of the country, agreed to not oppose the others' efforts at fighting the Iraqis, stopping short of an alliance.
The war devastated Khuzestan and the refineries that had made it such a valuable region and destabilized Iran even more, with both factions involved in Khuzestan being unable to consolidate their territory outside of it and resulting in large parts of the country falling outside the control of any faction that could unify the country. The devastation of the oil refineries and the danger to shipping near Iraqi and Iranian waters in the Persian Gulf caused global oil prices to rise, adding an economic impetus to the regional crisis felt as a result of the vacuum left by the Shah's departure.
The Soviet Union's agreement in favor of the creation of the United Nations Stabilization Force For Iran (UNSFFI) marked a crucial point in the Cold War as the two superpowers' militaries fought with each other for the first time since the Second World War and started the two on the road to the Bern Accords. With China being the only permanent UN Security Council member not sending troops, Iraq's defeat was a foregone conclusion. It took less than two weeks for UN forces to remove Iraqi forces from Iran following a prolonged bombing campaign of Iraqi positions while the majority of the force gained control over Tehran and other major cities in the rest of the country.
The war's legacy profoundly eased the "Vietnam syndrome" that the US had suffered from since the 1970s and firmly entrenched Iranian democracy, despite intermittent spurts of violence following the expulsion of Iraq until the country’s first free elections in 1985. Furthermore, the cooperation between the United States and Soviet Union marked a new era in both each superpowers' understanding of one another as well as global espionage- since the end of Soviet participation in UNSFFI, dozens of captured agents from both sides have cited information learned about the other side as part of the war and occupation as vital to their operations. International sanctions placed on Iraq as a result of the conflict would not be lifted until 1995, after UN inspectors reported that Iraq had dismantled its nuclear weapons program that Hussein had begun in the 1970s.
The war devastated Khuzestan and the refineries that had made it such a valuable region and destabilized Iran even more, with both factions involved in Khuzestan being unable to consolidate their territory outside of it and resulting in large parts of the country falling outside the control of any faction that could unify the country. The devastation of the oil refineries and the danger to shipping near Iraqi and Iranian waters in the Persian Gulf caused global oil prices to rise, adding an economic impetus to the regional crisis felt as a result of the vacuum left by the Shah's departure.
The Soviet Union's agreement in favor of the creation of the United Nations Stabilization Force For Iran (UNSFFI) marked a crucial point in the Cold War as the two superpowers' militaries fought with each other for the first time since the Second World War and started the two on the road to the Bern Accords. With China being the only permanent UN Security Council member not sending troops, Iraq's defeat was a foregone conclusion. It took less than two weeks for UN forces to remove Iraqi forces from Iran following a prolonged bombing campaign of Iraqi positions while the majority of the force gained control over Tehran and other major cities in the rest of the country.
The war's legacy profoundly eased the "Vietnam syndrome" that the US had suffered from since the 1970s and firmly entrenched Iranian democracy, despite intermittent spurts of violence following the expulsion of Iraq until the country’s first free elections in 1985. Furthermore, the cooperation between the United States and Soviet Union marked a new era in both each superpowers' understanding of one another as well as global espionage- since the end of Soviet participation in UNSFFI, dozens of captured agents from both sides have cited information learned about the other side as part of the war and occupation as vital to their operations. International sanctions placed on Iraq as a result of the conflict would not be lifted until 1995, after UN inspectors reported that Iraq had dismantled its nuclear weapons program that Hussein had begun in the 1970s.
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Shouldn't this say "as the two superpowers' militaries found with each other"?
Good update otherwise.
So, Zia has been mentioned as President of Pakistan during the Khuzestan war. He was president during the 1980s OTL as well
What happens to Zia? Does he still die due to plane crash? Taken out of power earlier? Or does he *shudders* lives?
I guess it is a Gulf war.
Also, I'm kind of surprised no one's noticed that Chemical Ali was killed in the war.
Zia's fate will be revealed soon.