A Templar America

abc123

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I would rather propose to Syphon that he changes his story into Templar discovery of Azores, Madeira, Canary Islands etc. so that Templars can be the one who discover way to India, Cape Verde Islands, Sao Tome e Principe, Fernando Poo... or/and Brazil/Venezuela...
Templars discovering caravele and founding large maritime empire with HQ in Azores...:cool:
 
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The Admiral Hook

When do the Assassins come over ITTL? And this doesn't butterfly Connor Kenway, does it?

Sorry, I just had to...

I'm looking forward to more of this. And congrats in advance for number two!
 
Derekc2

Derekc2

TheInfiniteApe said:
When do the Assassins come over ITTL? And this doesn't butterfly Connor Kenway, does it?

Sorry, I just had to...

I'm looking forward to more of this. And congrats in advance for number two!
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Well if we go by that world this means the Templar's have just shot them selves in the foot and gave the Assasins the old world.
 

Syphon

Damn these inconvenient facts.

I though ship building was further along than it was at this time.

I think I have to redo the transit.

I still want them to end up in the Americas.:confused:
 

forget

Banned
Well the natives used to ride across the Atlantic in rafts and the viking already made it to the new world a few hundred years before 1305.
So i wouldn't get to up tight about the boat building tec not being advanced enough.
The main thing i am a little tied up about is how your entire Templar fleet moved so fast into the new world.
They didnt even know was there, its just common sense that the Templars should of sent an explorer out ahead to discover if the maps found during the Crusades were correct
 
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Oberstein

still, it will be very interesting to see how the Templars fends off the attempts, of other European powers, to seize land in the new world.
 

Syphon

Chapter 3

Rumours that the Knights Templar had escaped to foreign lands quickly came to the attention of the Church and the Christian kingdoms.
Yet for all their efforts they were no closer to discovering where the Templars had gone.
Pope John XXII was under extreme pressure to abolish the Order of the Temple.
His predecessor Clement V had in 1311 summoned the Council of Vienne, which refused to convict the Templars of heresy.
Pope John XXII didn’t want to upset an order that had disappeared with most of its enormous wealth.
Even the remaining Templars in Europe and Africa refused to divulge their Orders new Headquarters.
All the Pope knew was that it was in a foreign land and beyond the reach of the European nobles.
For now Pope John XXII would wait and bide his time.
After all the Knights Templar was a holy order and ultimately answered to the pontiff.
If the Knights Templar grew strong enough again perhaps the church could use them to break the earthly powers of the Christian kings who thought they could dictate to the Church of Rome.
The remaining Knights Templars in Europe had two main roles.
The first was to keep the Order of the Temple informed of what was happening in Europe.
This included technical developments as well as political and military ones.
The second and equally important was to recruit new members or skilled artisans with their families and send them to Christland to increase its population and skills for the wars ahead.

Jacques de Molay and his Order of the Temple had problems.
They had started taking in good Christians who pledged obedience, fidelity, loyalty and piety to the Order of the Temple.
However amongst the honest people fleeing the Muslim hordes were spies who would be kept and watched while they worked for Templars the rest of their lives.

Those who pledges obedience and loyalty to the Order of the Temple but choose not to formally join the order were granted lands that they could use in perpetuity.
But they had to pay a ten-percent tithe to the order and any treasures discovered belonged to the order, as did the lands.
Finders of treasures could keep a third with other two thirds going to the Church and the Order respectively.
Failure to comply with these laws would be considered heresy and was punishable by excommunication and burning at the stake.
As the god fearing Christians started to move from the first settlement the Templars built fortresses to protect Gods children for the pagans and the unbelievers.

Once people started moving from the first settlement Jacques de Molay had his Templars create trails linking the former bases to the main settlement.
This would alleviate the need for the precious ships to continue sailing between the main settlement the bases used to get to the main settlement and the news ones being developed in the south and West.
The discovery of vast deposits of iron, coal, copper and tin in Christland was a boon for the Order of the Temple.
These were just the useful metals in every day use.
The Gold, silver and gems were just icing on the cake that added to the Order of the Temple’s wealth.
They no longer had to depend on a long and dangerous trade route linking the Order to their base in Iceland.
This was a god send for the order as it could now use the ships it had for fishing and exploring its new land and associated islands.
For the next one hundred and forty years the Order of the Temple would be nearly forgotten as their wealth and influence in European politics had disappeared along with most of the order.
 

Oberstein

nice to see that they are keeping up with the technological development in Europe. I'm also guessing that their remaining members will 'take care off' any potential adventurer that talkes about going west :p

how is the relations between the Templars and the native americans?
 

Syphon

Warmaster Samiel said:
nice to see that they are keeping up with the technological development in Europe. I'm also guessing that their remaining members will 'take care off' any potential adventurer that talkes about going west :p

how is the relations between the Templars and the native americans?
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They are pagan and heathens.
the Chaplains of the order are attempting to convert them to the one true faith.
If the natives don't listen well then the Knights and sergeants get to try and convert them through the use of lance, sword and fire.
They are a militant order of Holy soldiers and anything they do to convert the heathens is the will of god after all.:eek:
 

Oberstein

Syphon said:
They are pagan and heathens.
the Chaplains of the order are attempting to convert them to the one true faith.
If the natives don't listen well then the Knights and sergeants get to try and convert them through the use of lance, sword and fire.
They are a militant order of Holy soldiers and anything they do to convert the heathens is the will of god after all.:eek:
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'The Holy flames will cleanse their tainted, heretical souls', or something like that I assume.

The worse thing is that they actually believe that they are doing the natives a favour.

If they ever meet the Azteks, they will definitly launch a new crusade. The human sacrifice thing they got going their won't win them any friends.
 

Malta

Really, really, really ASB. The Templers would not be able to marshal their combined forces without people noticing it. Further even if they arrived in America they would face the fate of the Norse or the Jamestown settlers-intense starvation, disease, and attacks by extremely angry natives. The Europeans were not used to North American climate and ways of living.

A slightly more likely scenario would be if they absconded to a ruler more favorable or the even pulled their forces together for a desperate assault on some out of the way place in North Africa.
 
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