A surviving Yuan China

What if the Yuan Emperor thwarts the rebellions that caused the Yuan to lose power in China and started the Ming Dynasty, I am asking this because my TL has a surviving Yuan China.
 
Surviving till the present-day? Probably impossible. It might be easier if you eliminate the internal divisions among the Yuan officials. For example, if Toghto isn't recalled, he might have more success against the rebels. If Zhu Yuanzhang dies earlier, the remaining rebel leaders might not be as capable. Chen Youliang might still topple the Yuan by himself, but I don't see Zhang Shicheng doing so.

You can butterfly away the natural disasters that caused many problems, but you'd still need to improve the Yuan Dynasty itself,
 
Surviving till the present-day? Probably impossible. It might be easier if you eliminate the internal divisions among the Yuan officials. For example, if Toghto isn't recalled, he might have more success against the rebels. If Zhu Yuanzhang dies earlier, the remaining rebel leaders might not be as capable. Chen Youliang might still topple the Yuan by himself, but I don't see Zhang Shicheng doing so.

You can butterfly away the natural disasters that caused many problems, but you'd still need to improve the Yuan Dynasty itself,

I want it to survive till 16th century.
 
I want it to survive till 16th century.

Alright, probably possible. That's only, what, two more centuries than it did historically? If it survives that long, the Yuan Dynasty is going to look very Chinese. It might not matter if the Emperors remain Mongols who refuse intermarriage with the Chinese, but they're going to have to remove the Mongol aspect that made it difficult for them to begin with. For example, you'd definitely need to get rid of officials who wanted to kill over half of China's population. You should probably keep the imperial examination system in place, and you should probably allow Chinese officials to reach the highest ranks of government instead of having Mongols dominate. But your problem is that the remaining Yuan Dynasty doesn't have the Mongol element that made it distinct. If that's fine, then that's one way to go.
 

Spot on.

Can´t do it without making them more chinese. Which is the end result anyway if they stay longer in power. Which comes first, the chicken or the egg?

Was there any emperor, plausible emperor of that dynasty who would´ve been reasonable enough to start the process of sinication?
 
It won't be too different of the Qing on some aspects - they are of manchus origin and so not Han... but they may be weaker too, and perhaps wiser not too impose a 'mongolification' of customs like the hairs for this.
 
It won't be too different of the Qing on some aspects - they are of manchus origin and so not Han... but they may be weaker too, and perhaps wiser not too impose a 'mongolification' of customs like the hairs for this.

Yep, probably, though I should point out that in Yuan China, some Chinese took Mongol customs to curry favor with the Mongols, so there might be Mongolification. It just probably won't be mandated.

Spot on.

Can´t do it without making them more chinese. Which is the end result anyway if they stay longer in power. Which comes first, the chicken or the egg?

Was there any emperor, plausible emperor of that dynasty who would´ve been reasonable enough to start the process of sinication?

Renzong of Yuan could work. Wenzong of Yuan was more culturally Sinified, but probably too weak to make widespread changes in the Yuan government. Huizong of Yuan is probably too late, though his mindset is the type of thinking that might be needed.

The late Yuan years were so violent and reigns so short and tumultuous that it's not easy to get a long, stable rule needed to transition to a Confucian system of government. 1306 to 1336 saw eleven rulers in thirty years.
 
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