A Shining Valley - The Great Desert Lake in California

[Planita13]

What's LGBT rights like ITTL?

You really ask a lot of good questions! I like that

Okay so like many of things TTL and OTL it's a bit of a mixed bag. It's still a bit of taboo to talk about "sexual deviancy" and so there aren't that many legal protections or active support or advocacy. However on the other hand, homophobia is neither widespread or strongly believed in social and political circles. It's really more of a matter of ignorance and the fact that LGBT people are "different" so people are more cautious than anything. But in the view of most it isn't something that will automatically condemn one to hell. It's not a major concern to Christian politicians TTL as they mostly belong to the Christian left.

 

[Planita13]

The 2016 Gubernatorial Election in California was held as part of the 2016 General Election with elections for the California House and Senate occurring simultaneously. The Popular Movement, swept the elections in the state, riding on a wave of nationalistic fervor and anxiety following the nomination of James Wallace as Presidential nominee of the National Union. The election saw the worst result for the pro-American Citizens of California since 1992, confronted by a surge in the Popular Movement and the leftist independence party, National Solidarity.

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[ST15RM]

@Planita13

 

[Planita13]

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Wow nice! Thank you for your contribution.

What's this style of map called again? Nvm got it

 

[Sharque]

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@ST15RM you forgot to add Gran Lago

 

[Planita13]

@ST15RM you forgot to add Gran Lago

That moment when you don't notice that the centerpiece of your TL is missing

 

[nemo1986]

Huh, the US doesn't have Hawaii.

 

[Planita13]

Huh, the US doesn't have Hawaii.

Yeah a funny (sad) story that one is. I'll tell it sometime.

 

[Planita13]

The Californian-American War was a short conflict between the United States of America and the Republic of California when the United States intervened on the side of American migrants who rose in revolt against the Californian government. Tensions have been growing between the white settlers and the Californian government since the Gold Rush first began in 1849. From then on 200,000 settlers from the United States, especially after the Mexican-American War ended in 1853, traveled westward over the Rockies to settle in the northern part of the Republic of California. The white settlers who came to look for gold overwhelmed the local authorities through their sheer numbers and any attempts by California to govern them were ignored.

In the fall of 1855, the President of California Andrés Cervera ordered the small Californian Army north in an attempt to restore order. The situation quickly deteriorated into clashes between the Army and various militias formed by the white settlers. When Cervera started to mobilize more troops, the white settlers rose in revolt, declaring breakaway state called the Republic of Eureka. James Buchanan who saw his term shadowed by the legacy of his predecessor James K. Polk, sought to make a lasting legacy for himself. He saw an opportunity to gain fame as the President to seize much of the Pacific Coast and acquire the region's large gold deposits. Riding high on patriotism from the Mexican-American war, the President found little difficulty in approving a war especially against such a weak target.

The war was a short but bloody affair for the Californians who were outnumbered by the superior American Army. Most of the American casualties were sustained by the ad hoc Eurekian militias in their clashes against the Californian Army. The Republic of California did receive some material aid from the United Kingdom because of some investments in the new Republic and concern over the tactics of American expansionism. After the war, the defeated Republic was forced to secede Eureka, which comprised most of the white majority north. Eureka was granted statehood almost immediately, but Congress did not want to admit a state with over 580 thousand Catholic Hispanics. Instead the Department of California was formed, a territory directly administered by the United States Army. The invasion, cultural discrimination, and lack of political representation until 1912 left a lasting legacy of resentment and bitter nationalism. Today California continues to fiercely protect its cultural identity, and it is the only U.S. state to have a large independence movement.

 

[IcyCaspian]

The Californian-American War was a short conflict between the United States of America and the Republic of California when the United States intervened on the side of American migrants who rose in revolt against the Californian government. Tensions have been growing between the white settlers and the Californian government since the Gold Rush first began in 1849. Since then over 70,000 settlers from the United States, especially after the Mexican-American War ended in 1853, traveled westward over the Rockies to settle in the northern part of the Republic of California. The white settlers who came to look for gold overwhelmed the local authorities through their sheer numbers and any attempts by California to govern them were ignored.

In the fall of 1855, the President of California Andrés Cervera ordered the small Californian Army north in an attempt to restore order. The situation quickly deteriorated into clashes between the Army and various militias formed by the white settlers. When Cervera started to mobilize more troops, the white settlers rose in revolt, declaring breakaway state called the Republic of Eureka. James Buchanan who saw his term shadowed by the legacy of his predecessor James K. Polk, sought to make a lasting legacy for himself. He saw an opportunity to gain fame as the President to seize much of the Pacific Coast and acquire the region's large gold deposits. Riding high on patriotism from the Mexican-American war, the President found little difficulty in approving a war especially against such a weak target.

The war was a short but bloody affair for the Californians who were outnumbered by the superior American Army. Most of the American casualties were sustained by the ad hoc Eurekian militias in their clashes against the Californian Army. The Republic of California did receive some material aid from the United Kingdom because of some investments in the new Republic and concern over the tactics of American expansionism. After the war, the defeated Republic was forced to secede Eureka, which comprised most of the white majority north. Eureka was granted statehood almost immediately, but Congress did not want to admit a state with over 120 thousand Catholic Hispanics. Instead the Department of California was formed, a territory directly administered by the United States Army. The invasion, cultural discrimination, and lack of political representation until 1912 left a lasting legacy of resentment and bitter nationalism. Today California continues to fiercely protect its cultural identity, and it is the only U.S. state to have a large independence movement.

How does the Independence Movement manifest?

 

[Planita13]

How does the Independence Movement manifest?

There is an active party called National Solidarity, a social democratic party and a left-wing nationalist party, for Californian independence. It got 12.5% of the vote for the gubernatorial election in 2016 which is quite a significant number for a third party. Of course independence is quite a pipe dream, as it has been established TTL and OTL that secession is a no no

 

[Catalunya]

Was there a lot of Anglo migration to California after the war?

 

[Planita13]

Was there a lot of Anglo migration to California after the war?

There was some but not that many, less than 100k while it was a Department under military control, they didn't particularly like Catholics during this time. Usually they either came to do business, live on the shores of the Gran Lago, or come to business and then decided to stay at the Gran Lago. There are still quite a few rich Anglo neighborhoods on the northeastern lake shore Other than the lake, there wasn't much to draw people in, there were much more attractive places to migrate to in Eureka, without all those Catholics.

 

[Sharque]

Are there any singnificant climatic effects due to the presence of the Gran Lago?

 

[Planita13]

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The National Congress of California is the state legislature of the Second Republic of California. It is seated in Capitol Park situated in the state capital and municipal capital of San Gabriel. The body consists of the Senate, the upper house and the House of Representatives, the lower house. Like elsewhere in the United States, the Californian constitution stipulates that both chambers have equal powers and abilities. The National Congress has sole legislative power, meaning the executive must work with the legislature to pass a law. For a bill to become a law, both houses must past the bill and the Governor must sign it. If the Governor vetoes it, both Houses must have two-thirds majority to override the veto.

 

[TheKutKu]

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The National Congress of California is the state legislature of the Second Republic of California. It is seated in Capitol Park situated in the state capital and municipal capital of Boston. The body consists of the Senate, the upper house and the House of Representatives, the lower house. Like elsewhere in the United States, the Californian constitution stipulates that both chambers have equal powers and abilities. The National Congress has sole legislative power, meaning the executive must work with the legislature to pass a law. For a bill to become a law, both houses must past the bill and the Governor must sign it. If the Governor vetoes it, both Houses must have two-thirds majority to override the veto.

Nice, what are the NPR and PDB parties?

 

[IcyCaspian]

Current Plans (21 May)

• Update all old canon to new canon
  
• Complete California Article <-Long term project
  
• Californian politics
• Californian cuisine
• Free state Article
• Californio and Californianos Article

I am also taking suggestions

What is Californian cuisine like?

 

[Planita13]

Are there any singnificant climatic effects due to the presence of the Gran Lago?

There is some actually, mostly on the regional scale. A ton of water evaporates from the lake every year, like 56 billion cubic feet of water every year. So upwind of lake can be quite humid, which is quite unique in a desert. If a cold front moves in like during the winter, it can get quite cloudy and sometimes rainy. Something like the Tule fog could occur, but I have to do some more research.

What is Californian cuisine like?

Its a fascinating mix. Its primary culinary ties are to Mexico and the Hispanic world, as with other aspects of Californian culture they protect their culinary traditions fiercely. There is some American influence in their food, which often comes in the form of Californianized versions of popular American foods, like hamburgers, meatloaf, and hot dogs. In addition there is a significant Chinese presence in California which results in some rather interesting Californian-Chinese fusion foods.]

Nice, what are the NPR and PDB parties?

NPR is the Nuevo Partido Republicano or the New Republican Party is a right-wing independence party, its significantly less popular than its other rival, National Solidarity. PDB is the Partido Democrático Baja or the Democratic Baja Party. Its a Baja Peninsula regionalist party. The NU is the United States party, the National Union. I won't say much but its central to the politics of the United States as a catch-all party.

 

[Planita13]

The Central Californian Water Agency (Agencia Central de Agua de California) is a regulatory and environmental protection agency centered around the Gran Lago and is one of the most controversial government agencies in California today. On average 20% to 40% of the water that flows into the Gran Lago from the Colorado River would evaporate into the air. Thus to maintain its current water level, the lake needs enough inflow to offset evaporation. The Governor of California in the late 1920s Juan Ortez, realized the need for an agency to prevent water overuse which would lead to a drop in the water levels harming the lake, the wildlife, and the people who depend on it. The Agency was formed in 1930, to manage water usage around the lake. In 1958, the Agency’s authority was expanded to include the power to regulate land-use around the lake. Over the decades since the agency's mission has expand to include environmental protection by controling water quality.

Its governing board is appointed by various city councils, municipal governments, and the Republic of California. To achieve their mission the Agency delegates and sets water usage through a “water budget, a limit on how much water an entity that uses water from the Colorado River or the lake a year. Fines can be imposed if an entity goes over the water budget. In addition, the Agency must ensure that future land development would not place overwhelming strain on the water resources, and so must approve or deny plans for future development. Recently the Agency has aggressively pushed for the adoption of low water use washing machines and similar appliances as well as a campaign to learn sustainable water use habits.

Since the Central Californian Water Agency must regulate the amount of water individuals can use, in addition to regulate how individuals develop their property, controversy and criticism are very common. The Agency must balance the interests of farmers to the south of the lake, waterfront businesses and homeowners, 2 municipal water districts, four municipalities, the Republic of California, environmentalists, scientists, and people south of the lake. Property rights groups representing homeowners and developers have repeatedly sued the Agency to weaken or eliminate the Agency's powers over water and land use. In the 2011-2016 drought, the Agency was sued over 25 separate instances by a dozen different entities over its allocation of the water budget and its denial of future development.

 

[TheKutKu]

The Central Californian Water Agency

Talking about suing, is California under common or civil law, or some hybrid system like louisiana?