A Shining Valley - The Great Desert Lake in California

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  1. Darth_Kiryan The Númenorean Sith

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    Do you have a list of US Presidents yet?
     
  2. Planita13 Wishing for a Lake

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    I got a list of Presidents up to the 20th century, but I have to finish the list to the present day.
     
  3. Threadmarks: The Opposition Parties

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    The Opposition Parties in the United States refers to the political parties that currently opposes the National Union on a state or federal level. Currently the biggest opposition parties in Congress are the Free Workers, the American Freedom Party, and the Socialist Party of America. In certain states, these parties have been able to win significant victories by getting elected as Governors and Senators. However due to their ideological differences, they are unable to form a united front and seriously challenge the dominance of the National Union in federal politics. As of 2016, no candidate of the current Opposition Parties have elected President.

    While the National Union is home to a broad range of pro-labor and free market ideologies, the members of opposition parties and their voters are considered too radical for the Party. The Free Workers is anti-union and the Socialists seek the eventual end of capitalism, which both are at odds with the basic tenets of the National Union. Party members that would eventually form the American Freedom Party were mostly expelled from the National Union for supporting segregation and racist conspiracy theories in the 1950s.

    The Free Workers is the largest opposition party in the country, largely representing big business and free market interests. The party is well known for its unspoken opposition to labor unions and seeks to reduce the power they have over the American economy. It is the only major party to oppose labor unions in the country setting it apart from the rest of the opposition parties. The party largely consists of libertarians and market liberals who also support less government intervention in the economy and a reduced role for the federal government. Like all the other opposition parties, it opposes the significant power of the National Union in the political process and seeks to drastically curtail its influence.

    The American Freedom Party is a merger of the Confederate nationalist State Right’s Party and the hard conservative New America Party. The merger was largely considered to be a rebranding of the party to increase the size of its electorate. The party is extremely socially conservative, nativist, and isolationist; it is well known for its opposition to PACCO and especially its visa travel and immigration policies. The party however supports government intervention in the economy and unions to an extent. However the party has often been accused of sexism, anti-semtism, racism, and Confederate apologia. The party is notorious for having poor relations with the African American Free States over many different controversies about race and the Confederacy.

    The Socialist Party of America is the oldest extant Opposition Party in the country, founded by Eugene Debs in 1901. While the National Union and the Socialist Party may agree on the basic tenets for economic policy, the Socialists outright call for the eventual abolishment of capitalism. Much like the other opposition parties, the Socialists consists of different factions with roughly the same goal but with varying ideas on how to achieve it. The party is largely split between the traditional marxist social democratic faction and a growing libertarian socialist coalition. While there is some tension between the groups, for now they are united in a common cause of being a check on the National Union.
     
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  4. nemo1986 Member of Red Sox Nation

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    And the minute the National Union falls, it will be war.
     
  5. IcyCaspian Member

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    Which States Have the Opposition Senators?
     
  6. GlebPro2004 Member

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    Is there anymore information you're capable of giving on Eureka?

    Seems like an interesting place we haven't seen a lot of.
     
  7. King Jasper Well-Known Member

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    What parties control the other free states? Is Free Labor of Liberty still cannon? @Planita13

    Also, I just want to compliment you for how high quality and well done this TL is. It must have taken a ton of work.
     
  8. Planita13 Wishing for a Lake

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    Sure I can cover that in the future!
    For the other states, its mostly these opposition parties. However there are state level parties in the free states and some others like Eureka. Free Labor is still canon, but I need to update it.

    Thank you very much! It does, which is way I would probably need to put it on hold when my university starts later this August.
     
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  9. Planita13 Wishing for a Lake

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    I'm working on the Abraham Lincoln article now which should be up in a few days. If i have time I will work on the Eureka article as well. However my summer is almost over and so updates will become infrequent. In addition someone has pointed out major criticism with my American politics, thus I announce a second political overhaul. As before, anything removed from the threadmarks is no longer canon.
     
  10. Ginger & Lime Active Member

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    Looking forward to it. This timeline is my favorite running right now.
     
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  11. King Jasper Well-Known Member

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    Same.
     
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  12. Witch0Winter Witch ❄️f Winter (formerly ToixStory)

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    Fine with me, I'm just having fun on this ride. :)
     
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  13. WotanArgead God of Impalers

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    Excuse me, will you be updating Oklahoma and Louisiana? I see these territories also have a wide status.

    Do I understand correctly that the United States in this reality is slightly left in economic terms?
     
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  14. Planita13 Wishing for a Lake

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    Thank you all! I'm happy with running this timeline and having people read it.

    Yeah sure I will. Its just that I have a rather long list of what I want to do at this point :p

    And you are correct, although its somewhat more complicated than that and it comes with its downsides of course. Really the most leftist thing is the power of American labor TTL. Other stuff like nationalized industries comes and goes with the government.
     
  15. WotanArgead God of Impalers

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    And what about Hollywood?
     
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  16. Threadmarks: Abraham Lincoln

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  17. Osk Eu set di la Oskaña

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    What about Joseph Lane’s VP? Was he also impeached?
     
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  18. Planita13 Wishing for a Lake

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    For a bit of history, before the 25th Amendment it was traditional that the Vice Presidency remain unfilled if the former VP was sworn in as President. For example Andrew Johnson never had a Vice President he was sworn in after the death of Lincoln OTL, and the same happened here when Joseph Lane became President.
     
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  19. King Jasper Well-Known Member

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    When will we get a list of Presidents?
     
  20. Planita13 Wishing for a Lake

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    Soon™

    In seriousness right now I have the following planned already so....
    Eureka wiki article (requested)
    Politics overhaul 2.0 (National Union article expansion, 2016 election redux, faction infographic, fusion parties)
    Economist news article
    Troubles wiki article
    Secret Service wiki article
    List of Presidents (requested)
     
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