A Shift in Priorities

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¡ Hi ! ¡ INTERESTING !:D.

I supose because all the international diplomatic and law´s problems created by the " Trosky affair " :D, maybe this problem it be the seed for creating some kind, class of international law court, ¡ oh the irony !:rolleyes:;):rolleyes:.

And i supose that for one part Trosky will it be given all the information than he know to the Turks intelligence services for his freedom, and maybe and say again maybe the Turks want to teach to the Russians who is the Alpha Dog of international politics;), and if my memory is correct sometime in the past the Turks fight some wars against the Russians, and maybe this is the first step in that direction:eek:;):eek:.

Peace:).
 
Might we see the Germans setting up a European trial of sorts where both the Turkish and the Russians can come and argue their position? It would create a precedent for future European conflicts of interest.
 
Now that's a splendid idea!

And while the trial is being set up (the legal framework with all the treaties etc. alone is going to take ages), Trotsky can be pumped for information by the Germans and any willing (and paying, in one form or another) other parties...
 
Yes. You wouldn't want Russia to hate you, would you Germany?

Especially if America somehow manages to convince Russia to be his backup if things get "fun" later on.

But if Russia is the backup, what is America? He'll be the Hero of course!

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Look at me. Practically salivating at the idea of a Russo-American Friendship.

If only . . .
 
Yeah. If such a trial would be public, I wonder if the Americans would want to participate too. Might the Germans through back-channels notify them too?

After events in Mexico and what happened to some MA POWs during the TAW the US government would have much to fear from the establishment of a body of international law.

As for a Russo-American alliance. Unless the Russians have their back to the wall like in WW2 IOTL they tend to be suspicious of other nations so such an alliance is unlikely.
 
¡ hi ! to JacktheCat: ¡ WELCOME !:).

Good luck:cool:.

Thanks for the welcome.

There is a strong vein of irony in this TL. Rohm as a gay rights activist. Priceless. Does he still keep the handle bar moustache and beer belly from OTL?

Though not so sure of Himmler as a porno king. I've always thought he would've turned out as a serial killer.

Leaving strange Nordic and ancient Indian runes at the scene of his crimes ... or perhaps a single chicken feather.
 
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After events in Mexico and what happened to some MA POWs during the TAW the US government would have much to fear from the establishment of a body of international law.

As for a Russo-American alliance. Unless the Russians have their back to the wall like in WW2 IOTL they tend to be suspicious of other nations so such an alliance is unlikely.

I didn't mean an alliance between Russia and America, so much as a three way cold war of sorts between Russia, America, and to a lesser extent, Turkey.
 
[FONT=&quot]The law condemns and punishes only actions within certain definite and narrow limits; it thereby justifies, in a way, all similar actions that lie outside those limits.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](Leo Nikolayevich Tolstoy)[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]The Düşünür/Trotsky affair took an unlooked-for turn when the Amtsgericht (district court) Berlin-Mitte ruled that:[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]a) The Russian request for extradition was politically motivated – and extradition for political reasons was unlawful. A comprehensive indictment for crimes of violence had not been submitted; there had not even been in existence an arrest warrant against Herrn Düşünür in the Russian Empire.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]b) The Ottoman request for extradition was to be rejected because of pettiness. Because the Ottoman authorities did not deny that Herr Düşünür was a citizen of the Ottoman Empire, the minutiae of how this citizenship had been obtained were moot – as far as German justice was concerned.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Therefore, Herr Düşünür had to be set at liberty immediately.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Before any of the interested parties had even had a chance to read the full text of this court ruling, Herr Düşünür’s lawyers announced that their client had signed a consultation contract with the OKW. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]And before the lawyers had even finished their announcement, Herr Düşünür had been whisked away to the Wünsdorf facilities of the OKW, which were among the best guarded installations within the German Empire. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Somewhere below the spruce trees near Wünsdorf, in a subterranean bunker room, Herr Düşünür was facing a friendly smiling German admiral.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“Allow me to introduce myself, Gospodin Bronshtein, I’m Konteradmiral Wilhelm Canaris, your new employer. I assume you understand that your contract entails no permission to go out...”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“Well, Admiral, I’m rather glad that this is the case. – I suppose, this facility does have an excellent library?”[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]In Moscow, Prime Minister Boris V. Savinkov had summoned German ambassador August Winnig. In presence of Russian foreign minister Aleksey F. Aladin and the former’s deputy, Alexandra M. Kollontai, he received Winnig in his office in the Kremlin. To Winnig’s surprise, Savinkov did not at all appear angry or frustrated; the man was smiling amiably.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“Well, August, what is this story all about?”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“Oh, Boris Viktorovich, don’t think that I have already received intimate information about this affair. – All I can offer you now is some general appreciation...”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“You’re a prominent member of the ruling party in Berlin, August. Your opinion is always welcome...”[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]In Istanbul, Grand Vizier Enver Pasha had asked Ferik Muharip Pasha to see him.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“Well, Muharip Pasha, what is this all about?”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“Oh, Sir, we did what we could. At least, the Russians didn’t get the man...”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“You could have ‘treated’ him on Kıbrıs long ago, couldn’t you?”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“Ah, actually there’s not much we can learn from him, it’s just important that the Russians get no chance to eliminate him. We might want to use his services occasionally...”[/FONT]
 
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*sigh* Fuck you Shift!Germany.

Trotsky deserves nothing less than an excruciating death.

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Maybe a bit much there, but I obviously dislike this outcome.
 
Agatha Christie

Somebody mentioned Agatha Christie (was it you, nerd?) and caught me in a productive day:

Agatha Christie was not yet a published author when her husband (a British aviator) was killed in the waning days of the Great War. When she received the news, she was faced with the choice of falling back on the protection of her family or venturing out on her own. Having a sizeable stock of unpublished short fiction at her disposal, Christie tried her luck in the publishing world and found success. Short fiction was just about the only marketable product in the dark days at the close of the war, and there was something appealing to people about a search for meaning in the presence of death.

Seeking a change of setting given the depressing mood of the country, Christie left Britain in 1920, shortly after her first novel was published. She traveled briefly through Europe before making her way to Egypt, the Middle East, and eventually South Africa.

Arriving in the country soon after the signing of the Treaty of Luanda, Christie decided to settle there, purchasing a country retreat by the ocean, not far from Durban. It was here that Christie found what would be (after writing) her life’s passion: surfing.

The local beach culture was an interesting mix of disaffected Great War veterans, young, rebellious whites, and black Africans eager to escape a life of tribal structure. They shared and developed new and intriguing music, dances, and even language; but the thing that brought them together more than anything else was the longboard.

It seems odd that a (to all outward appearances) staid 30-something middle class British woman would find herself joining this world. But Christie took to the sport like a duck to water after only one lesson. She was taught to surf by Eric O’Neil, one of the Australian expatriates who first brought surfing to South Africa after the war. Christie and O’Neil would be married in early 1924.

Following the split in the Union (during which she served as a Red Cross nurse,) Christie and O’Neil (and most of the rest of the community) elected to stay in the new coloured state. Christie continued to publish mystery stories (including more and more with nautical and surfing themes) while she and O’Neil began to refine the art of surfing and even started to put their permanent mark on it. Indeed, several surfing techniques were pioneered and named by the pair, including the Five Little Pigs, the Endless Night, and the Orient Express.

The late 1920s and early 30s saw isolated surfing communities dotting the African coasts, with large concentrations in South Africa, former German Southeast Africa, and Madagascar.

By 1934, Christie and O’Neil were viewed as something like elder statesmen of the surfing culture, and the only celebrity link it had to the outside world. In this year, they embarked on a tour of world surfing communities, traveling to Madagascar, Ceylon, and the many beaches of Australia. They were struck by the universal welcoming nature of the communities and other shared similarities, despite the lack of firm communication between them.

The couple intends to continue their trip on to Hawaii, the spiritual homeland of the sport. Christie already has plans in the works to begin a regular surfing publication to promote not just the sport, but the accepting culture surrounding the surfing communities. O’Neil is focused on organizing the world’s first international surfing competition.
 
¡ Hi ! to Expat: ¡ LOL !, ¡ WELL DONE !:D:cool::D:cool:.

About Agata Christie: yep;), and i find something ironic the fact that as for myself i never read something created by her:eek:, in anyway, i supose that maybe she become in some years the mother of the " Hippie movement ":eek::D:eek::D, and who knows, maybe because Agatha likes surf, mistery, and she it be goings to Hawai, well, maybe she writes a sucesfully popular detective novel with the name of Magnum P.I.:D;):D;):eek:.

Good luck:).
 
¡ Hi ! ¡ EXCELLENT !:D:cool::D.

Yep, what wise, elegant and nice form for ending " the Trosky Affair ", well done Rast:cool::):cool:. In anyway, as for myself i can´t wait for see what magic it be doing Trosky working for the OKW, and that´s a real surprise: a conservative Trosky:eek::D:eek:, ¡ Heck !:eek: in some decades in the future the T.V. Trosky´s life miniseries maybe will it be something amazing for see:cool::D:cool:. And for last, why i supose that McAdoo´s goverment and Hearst newspapers maybe it be totally mad and angry against Germany:rolleyes:;):rolleyes:.

Good luck:).
 
Trotsky is more or less a prisoner of the OKW and Abwehr. His continued existence is largely dependent upon staying in good graces with Canaris and there is the ever present sword of Damocles in the form of the Russians. If Trotsky steps out of line he gets cut loose and then the Russians come in to take a different sort of cut.

This arrangement is bound to grate on Trotsky and in some ways represents a fate worse than death for him. For a communist agitator what could be worse than spending your life surrounded by high ranking military types, the very personification of the classic reactionary archetype and largely immune to any calls for revolution.

In regards to Agatha Christie I love how the meeting and name of her second husband in TTL dovetails nicely with an episode from OTL. I know that she had created Hercule Poirot by 1920 OTL which is only a few years after the POD but in TTL Miss Marple could be very different from OTL. :D
 
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[FONT=&quot]For why drives on that ship so fast, without or wave or wind? The air is cut away before, and closes from behind.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](Samuel Taylor Coleridge – The Ancient Mariner)[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]A new sea monster was taking shape at the Schichau shipyard in Danzig. She had been christened ‘Otto Lilienthal’, actually the second ship bearing that name, but not a frail makeshift one this time – rather a purpose-built leviathan. Schichau had taken great pains in order to get the job, perhaps the most important one to be had in current times.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]The Imperial Navy had had enormous difficulties in keeping the potent shipyards capable of building major men of war. After the last of the replacements projects, the great cruiser – actually a fast battleship – SMS Seydlitz (II) and the (fast) battleship SMS Posen (II) had been completed in 1924, only the construction jobs for the aircraft carriers and the MIMS had kept the shipyards in line. – Neither cruisers nor destroyers nor submarines, of which quite a lot had been built, nor any of the other small craft were comparable to the truly capital ships.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]This had almost led to a serious crisis in 1931, when the navy had not ordered the authorised replacements for the losses suffered in the Battle of Iceland – but had taken ample time to work out new designs. Only the construction of ten large anti-aircraft cruisers had bridged the gap, after it been decided to utilise Posen (II) hulls for the purpose. Subsequently, Schichau had built SMS Wirbelwind – and then, in 1933, had succeeded in winning the competition for SMS Otto Lilienthal (II).[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]The aircraft carrier would be the first of a new series of large vessels capable of carrying either ninety-two purpose built carrier-born fighters and bombers – or twenty-four medium range heavy bombers, especially modified for carrier service. Two more had already been ordered, and the SKL was still pondering the option to convert five authorised – but yet unbuilt – battleships into carriers as well. [/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Schichau had been forced to erect a completely new dockyard in order to construct SMS Otto Lilienthal (II) as the vessel would have a length slightly exceeding 350 metres. They also had hired quite a number of additional engineers and workers boosting Danzig’s economy. It was only hoped that a follow-on job could be acquired...[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]While secrecy was attached utmost importance to, it had been impossible to hide the fact that a new very large dockyard had been constructed, in which now a very big ship was being built. – Thus, a considerable force of spooks had gathered in Danzig; rank and file, of course, as the real professionals tried to pump the authorities in Berlin for information. Nevertheless, Schichau plant security had a hard time sorting snooping black sheep from simple labourers willing to work.[/FONT]
 
350 meters in length :eek: That's 17 m longer than OTL's Nimitz class. What's the beam, draft and overall displacement of the new supercarrier (I think no other word fits these leviathans)?

The fuel economy must suck dead rats, though. I hope Lise Meitner and Otto Hahn are a bit ahead of their OTL schedule ;)

If the FLAK-cruiser class is called Wirbelwind-class, is that a nod towards OTL's Wirbelwind flakpanzer?

Edit: Trekchu, these ships are 1 1/2 times the length of a Yorktown carrier. Since the laws of physics and aquadynamics practically demand a big butt for a hull of that length, I think that the Kriegsmarine just jumped ahead several OTL carrier classes when it comes to sheer size. I believe we have the ability to operate heavy bombers from the ships to thank for that...

Edit 2: This class is either an absolute success and will be unmatched by anything anybody else ITTL can come up with for years or due to inadequate power plants and propulsion and problems with stability (metal fatigue) will be an abject failure.
 
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