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McAdoo's response to a peace agreement should be interesting. He should be able to gain everything the US wants, including huge swaths of northern Mexico (though I still think they'll kick themselves for gaining a less defensible border in the future.)

It's harder to come up with reasons why he would not agree to peace. Obviously the military expansion is keeping the US afloat, but McAdoo can hardly give that as his reason. If he equivocates though, I think we can be pretty sure that he knows economic collapse is the next thing after peace.

If that's the case, he must be shaking in his boots, knowing the war can't go on forever. If he's smart he'll be looking for the next thing, whether it's another war or a real solution.
 
Agreed. Poison gas against civilians indeed makes a huge difference.



Probably the contrary if EVEG succeeds and deliver peace for Mexico and a decent development plan of the country. If EVEG promises railways and streets and jobs, even Luxemburg will be grateful.

For that matter, we really need to know how living under the heel of EVEG is. Do they abuse the local population or do they "merely" bribe their leaders? Do they invest in the country for the long-term (at least in Mittelafrika and their protectorate it seems so) or do they merely extract raw materials at low prices? Do they use their armed forces simply as guards in insecure areas or do they abuse their power?

I'm fully in support of bringing down EVEG, but so far this is mainly from economic reasons to avoid cartels. Corruption will not fade with EVEG partitioned into several smaller firms, I can't really blame them for doing what seems to be normal business in the mining sector. I can't really blame them for having guards - many firms do. But do they use them for guarding their property or do they use them as a private army bullying around the locals?

I actually still think that the US gassing the Mexicans is comparable to the gassing of civilians by the Turks against the Cypriots. The US could use the same premise the Turks used, in that in this type of war environment, there was absolutely no way to tell between the military forces and the civilian population.

Living under EVEG would be comparable I think to living in Latin America that was run by US companies in all but name of OTL. The thing you have to remember is that EVEG looks after the interests of EVEG first, and will only invest in a country so long as it is profitable and no longer.

While EVEG engages mostly in legitimate business, the dark side really alarms me. In one of the previous posts rast mentioned the Chairman of EVEG looking over the list of bribes. If I remember correctly, these involved '3 virgins a month' for the local Georgian puppet ruler, and '10 little boys' for another, plus providing 'spirits for local Ottoman magistrates'. That can only suggest that EVEG is actively involved in kidnapping, human trafficking and drug trafficking to provide these bribes to these type of people. Furthermore, it wouldn't be a stretch to imagine EVEG having connections with organized crime and other smuggling networks.
 
Think it would more like that they have a businessaccount with the organized crime, they pay enough money and whatever they need gets delivered.
Although considering the nature of EVEG, i don't think they would be satisfied by having connections with them, they are the type of company that would want to control it too.
EVEG reminds me of the VOC (dutch east india company).
 
¡ Hi ! ¡ WHOA !:eek::cool:.

Another amazing update Rast:cool:. In anyway it think that Cárdenas can acept in the peace treaties to giving money, returning soldiers, controling the most extremist elements, selling cheap oil,etc.. but don´t land, don´t forget that Cardenas is relativity young but he fight in the mexican civil war or mexican revolution, and all the mexican generals, Calles, mexican´s peoples will shoot him with a happy face and smile if he given one yard of mexican´s land:eek:;):D, in short, the same frontiers but more secure, with more vigillant peoples, and a big wall.

Other interesting posibility because Cardenas is so smart is that maybe it be doing treaties with the devil EVEG: "We sell chep oil but you pay for some excellent army, or for returning our original frontiers, or we firm some peace acord and in some months when will be having our original lands and your controlled the angry american goverment ";):D.

If i read correctly this amazing update, we know that the american drug dealers maybe now will it be farming drugs in american Californian mountains:eek:, yep, in some times when the great great depresion blows that drug deales maybe will become some how to say, land lords, lord of war, feudal drugs lords, you know:eek::(.

Another posibility is because the naval armamentist program of McAdoo maybe will see in short time another freaking TAW:eek::(:eek:.

And finally Rast, please, how to say, what are the oportunities for see some book written in the latte 90's of your amazing timeline:cool:, and that book be named, called: McAdoo: AN AMERICAN NERON.;):eek::D:eek::D

Peace and good luck:).
 
India is a geographical term. It’s no more a united nation than the Equator.
(Winston Churchill)

Lahore, the capital of the Indian Federation, had grown considerably in size and population over the last years, discovered Sardar Ajit Singh Sindhu, when returning home from his assignment as ambassador in Tokyo. While his family settled into a government-owned bungalow in the diplomats’ village at Boghiwal, Ajit Singh left command of the servants to his wife and rather paid a visit to the foreign ministry, his future place of work.

He had an informal appointment with Balkirishna Ganesh Khaparde, the foreign minister and son of Ganesh Shrikrishna Khaparde, one of the founding fathers of the Indian Federation.
Being accustomed to Japanese circumstances, Ajit Singh was a little bit surprised by the nonchalant approach found in the ministry. An attractive female secretary dressed in a Chikan style saree received him at the guard booth and led him to Khaparde’s office, chattering about the latest gossip all the way.

Khaparde was just speaking over the phone, but nevertheless beckoned him to take a seat and listen to the conversation. Because Ajit Singh didn’t know with whom Khaparde was talking and was unaware of the subject of the conversation, he only listened with half an ear – and looked around in Khaparde’s office.
There was – of course – a portrait of Federal President Muhammad Ali Jinnah; however, Ajit Singh was more interested in the maps: There was a world map; a map showing Asia; one depicting the Realm of the Aryans, and one featuring the Indian subcontinent.

The secretary now entered again, serving tea and cookies, while Khaparde still was prattling on.
“Just help yourself, Sir.” she whispered into Ajit Singh’s ear “He sometimes talks for hours over the phone, especially after cabinet meetings – and there was one this morning.”

But it took Khaparde only fifteen minutes to come to an end.
“Sorry for that,” he addressed Ajit Singh “but it was an urgent matter that required immediate action. – Welcome back, dear friend. How does it feel to be in India again?”
“After five years in Japan it’s quite an eerie sensation. It’s like being tossed into utter chaos; but I think we can cope – at least my wife and I; for the children it’s like a new world.”
“They will quickly adapt; children are like that, believe me. – I hope the house is acceptable?”
“Oh yes, it’s fine. Harnoor Kaur likes it very much, and that is what really counts.”
“Sure, when the wife is happy, peace in the family is warranted… – I gather you are going to take some days off before you start here?”
“Visiting my parents – and Harnoor Kaur’s parents and grandparents, showing around the grandchildren and great-grandchildren respectively. You know how it is…”

Khaparde smiled compassionately.
“Yes, I know. – My father insists to be visited every weekend. – He wants to be informed about all new political developments. – Anyway, as chief of the East Asian section, you will be a busy man. We don’t think anything decisive will happen before the Chinese elections in November; but there is a considerable concentration of armed forces close to the Russian border.”
“Yes, I know. – Currently, it’s purely defensive. The Round Table is only reacting to information received about Russian intentions.”
“Well, the ambassador to the Kremlin – Ekanjeet Naugai, I think you know him – reports that the Russians are only reacting to information received about Chinese units moving close to the border.”
“The Japanese were observing all this in great detail; according to their interpretation, the Russians are setting the scene for a future war of revenge by preparing the infrastructure. But the construction of a second great rail line will take some time; it can’t be ready before 1938 or 1939. – Thus, one must not think war is imminent.”

Oh, I think we wouldn’t mind a conflict between China and Russia – keeps the Chinese busy in a direction convenient for us. – You know, right now, the Federation is the only strong member of Airyanəm Vaējah, while Persia and Afghanistan are more liabilities than assets. And our other ally, Greater Mysore, is hardly better in that respect. – At least the rail line to Persia through southern Afghanistan is under construction since three years, although in Persia it has only reached Yazd yet. – Luckily, we got the Persians to pay the lion’s share of the expense; after all, they would need our troops supporting them – and not vice versa. And they have enough money; the Hokushinkai Mining Consortium is delivering a grand cheque to the treasury in Tehran each month.”

“Hokushinkai is growing rapidly. They exploit the Persian oil fields, those on Borneo and Kuye – and they have recently signed a contract with Burma. Only Mijnheer Deterding’s concessions on Sumatra are not yet controlled by Hokushinkai, otherwise every oil well from Persia to Alaska is in Japanese hands.”
“Well, at least they do sell oil to us, don’t they? – Our own oil field at Digboi would hardly suffice to satisfy our growing domestic demand. – And it will be your task to get a benefit for us out of Hokushinkai’s deal with Burma, after all, we’re Burma’s neighbour – and you know all these chaps in Tokyo…”
 
I am wondering how EVEG is reacting on the Hokushinkai zaibatsu both seem to have their hands on a considerable amount of oil. Maybe a clash between these 2?
I could imagine that if the agents from EVEG find out that all of this Russian and Chinese tension is the result of Japanese meddling, they would share this find with either the russians or the chinese (or both) just to counter their business advisary.

We already saw EVEG sponsoring both sides in Paraguay/Uruguay conflict, maybe the next step is a conflict between a EVEG country and a Hokushinkai country?
 
I am wondering how EVEG is reacting on the Hokushinkai zaibatsu both seem to have their hands on a considerable amount of oil. Maybe a clash between these 2?

Probably the next phase will be competition about the smaller countries that have not yet fallen to either side.

As Hokushinkai is Japanese, the question is whether the Chinese will limit EVEG influence in China at all. China is still developping so EVEG additional to the Japanese would be helpful.

In a war between China and Russia, I think EVEG will have a lot better chances in Russia and at least some chances with China and thus is in a better situation with both sides as possible customers.
 
[FONT=&quot]Wars are not paid for in wartime, the bill comes later.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](Benjamin Franklin)[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]When Colonel Ferdinand Schörner entered the briefing room, the attendants rose and stood to attention.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“Good evening, gentlemen, be at ease and be seated.” Schörner greeted them, walking over to the chair reserved for him. “Let’s begin.”[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Ic – intelligence – started the situation update. A brisk Bolivian lieutenant-colonel rose, stepped forward, grabbed the pointer and started explaining.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]“The enemy has fallen back to the line Puerto Pagani Cué – Potrero Nuevo – Estancia Tanco – Estancia Marlene – Pozo Azul – Los Esploradores. They have suffered heavy casualties – there have been more than eight thousand prisoners of war registered in the last forty-eight hours – nevertheless, they seem to have retreated in relatively good order.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Their second corps is in the north, with a narrow front of only twenty kilometres – because of the proximity of the Paraguay River – defending the river line from the border to Brazil to Puerto Pagani Cué and west of Paraguay River halfway to Potrero Nuevo. This corps has been reinforced by the independent artillery group and engineers. They are estimated to be at sixty percent nominal strength – already including the reinforcements.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]In the centre is their first corps. This one is grossly overextended and has been reinforced by their independent cavalry units. We assess that this corps has suffered severe casualties and think they are at thirty-five percent nominal strength. Their cavalry division should have lost all horses in the retreat.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Third corps is in the south, also overextended but not as depleted as first corps. We assess them to be at fifty percent nominal strength. Their cavalry division should also have lost all horses.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]In the air, the Paraguayan Air Force has ceased to exist. If anything at all, they have two or three machines incapacitated on the ground to cobble together one flying specimen.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]In terms of naval capabilities, our aerial reconnaissance has detected at least four makeshift gun boats on River Paraguay, although exact information on their armament is not available. – This ends my part of the update.”[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Ia – operations – took over now. A sturdy colonel rose, took over the pointer from Ic and approached the situation map.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]“While we have succeeded in pushing back the enemy, we have suffered heavy casualties – not so much from combat losses, but from heat, thirst, depletion, and sickness. From north to south: Fifth Corps is at thirty percent; they had the longest way to cover in their advance. Third Corps is at fifty-five percent, but signals urgent need for water supply. Second Corps is at sixty percent, as is adjacent fourth corps. Sixth Corps in the south is at thirty-five percent. – First Corps following in the centre is at seventy percent. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Our tank strength, however, is almost down to zero. Obviously, the model does not tolerate dust and heat. We have thirty-five percent losses due to mines, and sixty-five percent due to technical breakdown. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]In the air, we have won absolute superiority and can move our planes at leisure as the enemy doesn’t possess anti-aircraft artillery. – This ends my part of the update.”[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]IVa – supply – took now up the pointer. This was a wiry major, who seemed to be a little bit nervous.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]“We have enormous problems in bringing forward supplies, the terrain is not only without roads and littered with mines, it also is not suited for wheeled vehicles. – We’re building dirt roads as fast as we can, and we’re calling up pack animals all over the country, but – at current – we can only bring forward twenty percent of the supplies required. This means that we have to concentrate on food and water. No ammunition and fuel supply is currently possible. – This end my part of the briefing.”[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]The major put down the pointer and went to his seat.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Schörner pondered the situation. This was unpleasant; one heavy push – and River Paraguay could be attained. The army was suffering anyway, having them sit in the wilderness without supplies was no solution.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“We attack tomorrow morning.” he finally decided. “When we reach the river, the troops will at least have water.”[/FONT]
 
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[FONT=&quot]Wars are not paid for in wartime, the bill comes later.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](Benjamin Franklin)[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]When Colonel Ferdinand Schörner entered the briefing room, the attendants rose and stood to attention.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“Good evening, gentlemen, be at ease and be seated.” Schörner greeted them, walking over to the chair reserved for him. “Let’s begin.”[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Ic – intelligence – started the situation update. A brisk Bolivian lieutenant-colonel rose, stepped forward, grabbed the pointer and started explaining.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]“The enemy has fallen back to the line Puerto Pagani Cué – Potrero Nuevo – Estancia Tanco – Estancia Marlene – Pozo Azul – Los Esploradores. They have suffered heavy casualties – there have been more than eight thousand prisoners of war registered in the last forty-eight hours – nevertheless, they seem to have retreated in relatively good order.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Their second corps is in the north, with a narrow front of only twenty kilometres – because of the proximity of the Paraguay River – defending the river line from the border to Brazil to Puerto Pagani Cué and west of Paraguay River halfway to Potrero Nuevo. This corps has been reinforced by the independent artillery group and engineers. They are estimated to be at sixty percent nominal strength – already including the reinforcements.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]In the centre is their first corps. This one is grossly overextended and has been reinforced by their independent cavalry units. We assess that this corps has suffered severe casualties and think they are at thirty-five percent nominal strength. Their cavalry division should have lost all horses in the retreat.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Third corps is in the south, also overextended but not as depleted as first corps. We assess them to be at fifty percent nominal strength. Their cavalry division should also have lost all horses.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]In the air, the Paraguayan Air Force has ceased to exist. If anything at all, they have two or three machines incapacitated on the ground to cobble together one flying specimen.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]In terms of naval capabilities, our aerial reconnaissance has detected at least four makeshift gun boats on River Paraguay, although exact information on their armament is not available. – This ends my part of the update.”[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Ia – operations – took over now. A sturdy colonel rose, took over the pointer from Ic and approached the situation map.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]“While we have succeeded in pushing back the enemy, we have suffered heavy casualties – not so much from combat losses, but from heat, thirst, depletion, and sickness. From north to south: Fifth Corps is at thirty percent; they had the longest way to cover in their advance. Third Corps is at fifty-five percent, but signals urgent need for water supply. Second Corps is at sixty percent, as is adjacent fourth corps. Sixth Corps in the south is at thirty-five percent. – First Corps following in the centre is at seventy percent. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Our tank strength, however, is almost down to zero. Obviously, the model does not tolerate dust and heat. We have thirty-five percent losses due to mines, and sixty-five percent due to technical breakdown. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]In the air, we have won absolute superiority and can move our planes at leisure as the enemy doesn’t possess anti-aircraft artillery. – This ends my part of the update.”[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]IVa – supply – took now up the pointer. This was a wiry major , who seemed to be a little bit nervous.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]“We have enormous problems in bringing forward supplies, the terrain is not only without roads and littered with mines, it also is not suited for wheeled vehicles. – We’re building dirt roads as fast as we can, and we’re calling up pack animals all over the country, but – at current – we can only bring forward twenty percent of the supplies required. This means that we have to concentrate on food and water. No ammunition and fuel supply is currently possible. – This end my part of the briefing.”[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]The major put down the pointer and went to his seat.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Schörner pondered the situation. This was unpleasant; one heavy push – and River Paraguay could be attained. The army was suffering anyway, having them sit in the wilderness without supplies was no solution.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“We attack tomorrow morning.” he finally decided. “When we reach the river, the troops will at least have water.”[/FONT]


War between a blind man and man with one eye?
:D
 
¡ Hi ! ¡ NICE !:D.

As for start, India are waching closely and learning good lessons for the future, they know correctly their limits, and what can really can do, in short the Indian´s future looks bright:).

¡ DAMM ! another freaking scary intelligent but evil oil company in the world:eek:, and i bet that maybe it be creating conflicts and wars because they want to reduce/eliminate their enemy EVEG, the future now looks more grey and dark for this amazing timeline;):eek::D.

And finnally, maybe that Bolivian-Paraguayan war maybe and say maybe ended in Draw:D:eek::D, will see..

Peace and good luck:).
 
I would like to thank Rast for responding so quickly to my request for an update on India. As a gift to all the readers here, I give you all a link to the Indian constirution.The longest in the world.

http://lawmin.nic.in/coi/coiason29july08.pdf

I have really enjoyed this TL because it is plausable, interesting, and has been keept up by its author Rast.

Wishing you well, his majesty,
The Scandinavian Emperor
 
Regarding the Bolivian war the comment that when the Bolivian soldiers reach the river "will at least have water" is perfectly in keeping with Ferdinand Schorner's character from OTL.
 
I would like to thank Rast for responding so quickly to my request for an update on India. As a gift to all the readers here, I give you all a link to the Indian constirution.The longest in the world.

http://lawmin.nic.in/coi/coiason29july08.pdf

I have really enjoyed this TL because it is plausable, interesting, and has been keept up by its author Rast.

Wishing you well, his majesty,
The Scandinavian Emperor

My God! The freaking index is longer then the Dutch constitution!
471 Pages, unbelievable.
 
[FONT=&quot]Do not bite at the bait of pleasure, till you know there is no hook beneath it.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](Thomas Jefferson)[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Movies were big business; and by mid-1933, Hollywood, Babelsberg and Twickenham near London were competing for supremacy, while Grodno was catching up rapidly, and Paris provided the truculent francophone counter offer. There were some secondary centres like Vienna, Naples, Bombay and Smyrna, but the latter three still suffered from a rather small national audience because movie theatres weren’t yet really common in the counties they served, and Vienna was operating on the same market as Babelsberg.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]However, Hollywood – because of the US peculiarity that the movie companies also owned the cinema chains – ruled supreme in terms of profit.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Grodno was a case apart: Founded by people coming from the US – like Shmuel Gelbfisz and Iosif and Nikolay Scheincker – the Heymshtot’s centre of movie studios had aggressively entered the market and was meanwhile attracting numerous artists from all over the world. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]For the Hollywood film companies, these old world movie producers didn’t mean competition; their products were – if at all – only shown in private clubs and never gained access to the movie theatres owned by Hollywood.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Because films were generally offered in two versions: the innocent ‘Farmers’ Flick’ and the more lascivious ‘City Cinema`, an invention of William Fox, the domestic porno industry – also restricted to private clubs – had been declassified and today only formed a niche market.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]While the farmers’ flick paid respect to the restrictions and inhibitions of the religious communities often found in rural areas, the city cinema had taken up the frivolity of the early 1920ies movies – and added pornographic elements. What would end with a shy kiss in the Farmers’ Flick might peak in intense fornication in city cinema. Because many good farmers would also want to view the spicy version when – by chance – visiting the next major city, this double tracked approach did even enhance earnings. Even stout KKK members were known to frequently visit city cinema performances...[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Regarding the topics, American historic themes had grown rather important – war of independence, civil war, conquest of the west, Great Southern Conquest, Trans-Atlantic War and bios of ‘Great Americans’ were ubiquitous, although western and war movies also served for transporting non-patriotic themes.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Often, historic themes were also serving as substructure for slapstick comedies and musicals – these products being known as ‘historicals’. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Another genre were – of course – religious films, which generally were exclusively produced in the farmers’ flick version – and ironically often had an anti-Semitic stance despite featuring themes from the Bible. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]The third large genre were crime and prison films, divided into ‘historic’ movies about wild west criminals and Italian and Irish mobsters, and ‘contemporary’ movies about Disgruntled Grunts, Midwest gangs and New East Coast Mobsters. Obviously, Latino and Negro crime didn’t take place in Hollywood’s world.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]The fourth notable genre were films featuring non-American history, usually dealing with ancient world themes, providing opportunity to present much ‘historical’ naked skin. More recent European history – knights, Vikings and Napoleonic Wars found little repercussion. Even English history – although written down in a language common to Americans – was widely ignored.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]The boy-meets-girl theme still was the underlying pattern of most movies; gay themes simply didn’t exist – and social critique usually had to be well wrapped into something else to attract the audience. Otherwise, ‘intelligent’ animals like Rin Tin Tin were popular as ever.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Quite remarkably, the ‘old guard’ of Jewish producers was still around: Carl Laemmle, Adolph Zukor and others who had immigrated before the turn of the century. While younger producers generally were WASPs, these important elder gentlemen were considered naturalised Americans – and exempt from anti-Semitic hustle – like many important elder Jewish bankers in New York. The US simply couldn’t afford to have them leave the country...[/FONT]
 
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Why do I have a feeling that the Motion Picture Production Code is going to have razor sharp teeth in TTL? And if TTL mirrors OTL in this respect it should be imposed any second now.
 
am thinking this tl is very different, so the moralistic movement from 1930s otl might not even exist here. And of course the movies make way too much money by adding explicit content, so i doubt if this kind of restricting code even comes of the ground.

However they might come with their own version of it less aimed at morals than at nationalistic things,for example forbidding to have certain population groups & countries portrayed in a positive way (black, jewish etc)
 
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