A Second Successful Federal Republic

Are there any Argentina TLs out there BTW?
It and Brazil being the next big thing for the past two centuries but never getting anywhere is something I feel like investigating via AH.

https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=124565
AH Challenge: Make Argentina an industrial power by 1900



WI Argentina enters WWI in 1917? (Multi-page thread 1 2)
Admiral Brown
https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=125131


British Argentina (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9)
Joseph Solis in Australia
https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=109136



AH Challenge: stable Argentina after 1816
Joseph Solis in Australia
https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=123497


WI Reutemann had became president in 2003 instead of Kirchner?
Admiral Brown
https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=125645
 
Indeed. Without a very early POD, I can see an equivalent of one of the European Great Powers, but not a superpower.

I don't think there is anything in this about another super power, just another successful federal republic. \in this scenario Apartheid would need to be rejected for it to succeed as a federal republic of major import.
 
Are there any Argentina TLs out there BTW?
It and Brazil being the next big thing for the past two centuries but never getting anywhere is something I feel like investigating via AH.

https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=124565
AH Challenge: Make Argentina an industrial power by 1900



WI Argentina enters WWI in 1917? (Multi-page thread 1 2)
Admiral Brown
https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=125131


British Argentina (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9)
Joseph Solis in Australia
https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=109136



AH Challenge: stable Argentina after 1816
Joseph Solis in Australia
https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=123497


WI Reutemann had became president in 2003 instead of Kirchner?
Admiral Brown
https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=125645

There are also these TLs written by maverick (almost* the only of the members in here who has managed to actually write Argentinian TLs, instead of just posting the initial Pod)

- Peron doesn't resign in September 1955, and fights the generals who started the coup which would oust him IOTL with everything he's got:
https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=109328


- Bolivar looses the battle of Bocayá (not exactly an Argentina TL, but close)
https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=101025


- War between Argentina and Chile in 1978:
https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=61819

- No Peronism:
https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=70813

*Almost, because there's also Dan1988's TL about a succesful British invasion of Buenos Aires in 1806:

https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=117506

(Sorry if I'm forgatting any other member who wrote an Argentinian TL)


There are also some interesting ideas for other TLs:

Argentina joins the allies in 1940:
https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=106691

Abascal is named Vicerroy of La Plata:
https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=117492

a permanently divided Argentina (1852):
https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=97795

a Spanish/Portuguese Queen in the River Plate:
https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=77043
 
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maverick

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It's good to be recognized...:p

I will have to rewrite the No Peron TL and the war between Chile and Argentina...although for the moment I'll focus on the Argentinean civil war in 1955 TL (Update last friday, for all those interested;))
 
There are also these TLs written by maverick (almost* the only of the members in here who has managed to actually write Argentinian TLs, instead of just posting the initial Pod)

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You forgot this one:
Shorter Argentinean civil war
by juanml82

Brazil has a few discussions also:

French or Dutch Brazil
Melvin Loh

France Antartique
Ampersand


WI a significant comunity of black Muslims in Brazil?
Admiral Brown

Brazil vs South Africa War?
tallwingedgoat

WI: Brazil industrialised?
Avalon1

Challenge: Brazil remains a democracy past 1964
tallwingedgoat

WI Brazil remains part of Portugal?
Dan1988

Challenge: Brazil remains a democracy
tallwingedgoat

No Portuguese Royal Family in Brazil
ruisramos

Mexico and Brazil join the Axis
Mike O'Neal

AH Challenge: Brazil as a Failed State
Hannibal.Caesar

Tupi-Speaking Brazil
pa_dutch

United Kingdom of Portugal Brazil
Agentdark

Mauritz Nassau Siegen stays in Brazil Parma

French Brazil
Thande

WI communist brazil
Rockingham

Brazil and Portugal remain united?
Douglas

And others, these are the most recent.

Unfortunately it seems that no TL focused on Brazil was still written here in AH.COM. Maybe I should start my project of a lasting Empire of Brazil (as soon as I finally end A New Portugal, which I always promise to complete but fail to do :rolleyes:).
 
I don't think there is anything in this about another super power, just another successful federal republic. \in this scenario Apartheid would need to be rejected for it to succeed as a federal republic of major import.

Basically, I'm wondering if there could've been a second country with similar government and power to the United States. It would be interesting for them to have another capitalist power to contend with. Maybe a Pan-South American Union?

Thoughts needed for this.

That could mean government power, but I'm assuming by the latter part that it needs to have about the same global influence as America does today. This makes it a much more difficult challenge; if it was just "successful federal republic" it'd be pretty easy.
 
I'm a bit unclear about the question or challenge, but would you consider the United Arab Emirates a non-democratic version of what you are talking about. A republic of emirs basically.

As far as alternate history goes, what if no rise of extremism after WWI and everything Wilson believed in turned out to be true. I have read that keeping the Austrian empire around in federal republic form was considered by the British when the maps of Europe were being redrawn.
 
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