A rival to Madonna ?

[Archibald]

The idea is to create a rivalry between Madonna and a female singer, similar to the Prince Vs Jackson duel.

Have her making a hit around 1983-1985 (kind of Thriller, Purple Rain, and Like a virgin)

Any taker ? Who would you use as "basis" ?

 

[Hendryk]

Wasn't Cyndi Lauper once touted as another Madonna? Perhaps with different career choices she could actually make it. She was pretty big in the 1980s.

 

[Hadley]

Wasn't Cyndi Lauper once touted as another Madonna? Perhaps with different career choices she could actually make it. She was pretty big in the 1980s.

Cyndi kind of sabotaged her career by getting too "serious". People loved the lighthhearted stuff like girls just wanna have fun, shebop, goonies r good enough, etc and the videos with Captain Lou (R.I.P.), but when she released True Colors and went for the soft rock approach it caused her fanbase to dwindle. Maybe if she kept her earlier approach she could have stayed relevant, and maybe even could have been considered the "Anti-Madonna" (she never tried to play up her sexuality like Madonna did).

 

[mowque]

Too dark and twisted?

No, just not alternative history. Try again.

 

[the_lyniezian]

WI: I am born 25 years earlier(1964) as a woman. Still have basically the same mind (that is, im a lesbian). I manage to seduce Madonna and in her sleep, I murder her. Then I make the hit single "How I seduced and murdered Madonna" in prison. It becomes an instant hit.
Too dark and twisted?

That, and such things belong to ASB, not here.

 

[M. Adolphe Thiers]

Maybe you could have Kylie Minogue become famous a couple years early. Then the only issue is for her to have more success in the American market.

 

[ljofa]

I think if you had the demise of the Eurythmics earlier in the 1980s, Annie Lennox would be a good rival for Madonna - both peroxide-blondes, both song-writers, both the same age and had quite a broad fanbase.

 

[PhilKearny]

Kate Wilson and Cindy Pierson of the B-52s go slutty/sexy as opposed to campy.

 

[Geekhis Khan]

Cyndi kind of sabotaged her career by getting too "serious". People loved the lighthhearted stuff like girls just wanna have fun, shebop, goonies r good enough, etc and the videos with Captain Lou (R.I.P.), but when she released True Colors and went for the soft rock approach it caused her fanbase to dwindle. Maybe if she kept her earlier approach she could have stayed relevant, and maybe even could have been considered the "Anti-Madonna" (she never tried to play up her sexuality like Madonna did).

I'd vote Cindi. IIRC back in the mid 80s she was considered the "serious musician" of the two with real potential to go places while Madonna was expected to be a short-lived pop memory.

Of course similar predictions were made about Mel Brooks vs. Woody Allen.

 

[Archibald]

Maybe you could have Kylie Minogue become famous a couple years early. Then the only issue is for her to have more success in the American market.

Didn't thought about Kylie. Excellent choice !

 

[Hashasheen]

WI: I am born 25 years earlier(1964) as a woman. Still have basically the same mind (that is, im a lesbian). I manage to seduce Madonna and in her sleep, I murder her. Then I make the hit single "How I seduced and murdered Madonna" in prison. It becomes an instant hit.
Too dark and twisted?

Welcome to ignore.

 

[AltSptHst]

Vanity

What about Vanity? She left Vanity 6 around 1984 and went solo, but she really didn't have any big hits. Maybe if she got involved with someone other than Prince and started out solo, she may have been Madonna's rival.

 

[Tom Veil]

Maybe you could have Kylie Minogue become famous a couple years early. Then the only issue is for her to have more success in the American market.

Kylie's not a bad idea, but she's a bit too young, IMO. She'd only turn 17 in 1985, which is pretty early to have an international hit single. Plus, part of Kylie's problem with catching on in the USA was that she was marketed as if she were a little girl. The only singles we got over here before 2001 were "I Should Be So Lucky," where she looks like she's 12 in the video, and #$!&ing Loco-motion, the most annoying song in human history.

 

[M. Adolphe Thiers]

Kylie's not a bad idea, but she's a bit too young, IMO. She'd only turn 17 in 1985, which is pretty early to have an international hit single. Plus, part of Kylie's problem with catching on in the USA was that she was marketed as if she were a little girl. The only singles we got over here before 2001 were "I Should Be So Lucky," where she looks like she's 12 in the video, and #$!&ing Loco-motion, the most annoying song in human history.

Agreed. The whole "girl-next-door" image would have to be dropped for this to work, more in line with modern day Kylie.

 

[Metalicon]

What about Vanity? She left Vanity 6 around 1984 and went solo, but she really didn't have any big hits. Maybe if she got involved with someone other than Prince and started out solo, she may have been Madonna's rival.

Or maybe if she didn't turn into a huge crackhead.

 

[Gwendolyn Ingolfsson]

My money's also on Cyndi Lauper. Have her write more hits and she could have done it. Not that I know what the POD would have to be to get her to do that, mind you....

 

[Hadley]

My money's also on Cyndi Lauper. Have her write more hits and she could have done it. Not that I know what the POD would have to be to get her to do that, mind you....

Like i said, just have her stick to her more lighthearted approach and not try to be "serious".

 

[AltSptHst]

Prince

Or maybe if she didn't turn into a huge crackhead.

I don't know for sure, but I think that she got like that as a result of working with Prince and letting him objectify her as a whore by having her be a part of that group and go out on stage in a teddy and boots. With better management, she may have had the potential as a solo singer to rival Madonna, but we will never know.