A question regarding Robert Stuart, Duke of Kintyre and his family

OTOH, I can see Buckingham being stripped of his Lord High Admiral honorific and this one given to Robert come 1625. Whether he will turn out as interested in navy as some of OTL nephews of his remains to be seen.

Oh agreed, Robert as Lord High Admiral, with Northumberland advising him perhaps? I think seeing him split his time between army and navy would be fascinating
 
Possible family tree for Robert and Charlotte

Marriage in 1625

Issue:

Charles born 1627

Robert born 1629

Mary born 1635

Elizabeth born 1640
 
A query, regarding this timeline, who would be considered suitable brides and grooms for Robert's children here? Second tier foreign Princes and Princesses, or first tier ones? And would they consider shopping amongst the local nobility as well?
 
And would it be more interesting to see Louis XIII die without issue, and see Gaston become King, or to perhaps have Louis and Anne have a son earlier than they did otl?
 
A query, regarding this timeline, who would be considered suitable brides and grooms for Robert's children here? Second tier foreign Princes and Princesses, or first tier ones? And would they consider shopping amongst the local nobility as well?
First tier for the daughters only if their uncle need them as proxies brides. In general second tier foreign prince and princesses but local nobility is acceptable (an heiress, specially a title one, for Robert would be perfect)
 
First tier for the daughters only if their uncle need them as proxies brides. In general second tier foreign prince and princesses but local nobility is acceptable (an heiress, specially a title one, for Robert would be perfect)

Alright interesting, I agree. I can see Charles of York pursuing a career in the navy, whilst Robert jnr is in the army.
 
And would it be more interesting to see Louis XIII die without issue, and see Gaston become King, or to perhaps have Louis and Anne have a son earlier than they did otl?
I think OTL situation is better unless Gaston and Marguerite thanks to butterflies had a couple of healthy sons plus one/two daughters...
In that case go with Gaston as King....
Louis and Anne having sons earlier deprive you of the Sun King, Frondes, intrigues and political instability and give very little in exchange so no thanks... Gaston without sons would be the end of the main Royal branch and the elevation of the next one and I will suggest to not go down that road
 
I think OTL situation is better unless Gaston and Marguerite thanks to butterflies had a couple of healthy sons plus one/two daughters...
In that case go with Gaston as King....
Louis and Anne having sons earlier deprive you of the Sun King, Frondes, intrigues and political instability and give very little in exchange so no thanks... Gaston without sons would be the end of the main Royal branch and the elevation of the next one and I will suggest to not go down that road

Oh interesting, you don't think some sort of rebellion would occur against an older son of Louis XIII, given how much of a schemer Gaston was?
 
Oh interesting, you don't think some sort of rebellion would occur against an older son of Louis XIII, given how much of a schemer Gaston was?
No, is unlikely... Sure with an older nephew Gaston would be able to receive an earlier recognition of his wedding to Marguerite of Lorraine but Gaston intrigues would stop there (specially because a boy at least five years older than OTL Louis XIV would be older at his father’s death and only one choice as bride)
 
No, is unlikely... Sure with an older nephew Gaston would be able to receive an earlier recognition of his wedding to Marguerite of Lorraine but Gaston intrigues would stop there (specially because a boy at least five years older than OTL Louis XIV would have only one choice as bride

This is very true. So, keep Louis and Philippe as Louis XIII sons then?

Perhaps merge this with the surviving daughters of Philippe IV then, do you think?
 
This is very true. So, keep Louis and Philippe as Louis XIII sons then?

Perhaps merge this with the surviving daughters of Philippe IV then, do you think?
Gaston the schemer as King would be interesting...
Maybe Louis has a son earlier (like 1635) but the boy die a couple of years later after Louis XIII’s recognition of Gaston and Marguerite’s wedding (who will likely arrive together with an engagement between Anne Marie Louise and the Dauphin) so they will start to have children earlier

Keeping Louis XIII and Gaston’s OTL children the youngest York girl would be a perfect Duchess of York and Anne Marie Louise a very interesting choice as Queen of England
 
Gaston the schemer as King would be interesting...
Maybe Louis has a son earlier (like 1635) but the boy die a couple of years later after Louis XIII’s recognition of Gaston and Marguerite’s wedding (who will likely arrive together with an engagement between Anne Marie Louise and the Dauphin) so they will start to have children earlier

Keeping Louis XIII and Gaston’s OTL children the youngest York girl would be a perfect Duchess of York and Anne Marie Louise a very interesting choice as Queen of England
Oh interesting, so keep Louis XIII and his kids Alive alongside Gaston and his kids, so the Anne Marie Louise as queen, whilst his youngest daughter becomes duchess of York or the duke of York’s youngest daughter becomes married to the duke of Orléans?
 
Oh interesting, so keep Louis XIII and his kids Alive alongside Gaston and his kids, so the Anne Marie Louise as queen, whilst his youngest daughter becomes duchess of York or the duke of York’s youngest daughter becomes married to the duke of Orléans?
The youngest York girl for Orléans obviously... Age wise is the only logical match for an English princess in France (her sisters and cousins are too old for the King or Orléans and her rank made her more appropriate for the King’s brother than the King)....

Weddings for the three younger daughter of Gaston here?
 
The youngest York girl for Orléans obviously... Age wise is the only logical match for an English princess in France (her sisters and cousins are too old for the King or Orléans and her rank made her more appropriate for the King’s brother than the King)....

Weddings for the three younger daughter of Gaston here?

Ah yes agreed, and hmm I’d need to see who they married otl and go from there aha
 
The youngest York girl for Orléans obviously... Age wise is the only logical match for an English princess in France (her sisters and cousins are too old for the King or Orléans and her rank made her more appropriate for the King’s brother than the King)....

Weddings for the three younger daughter of Gaston here?
Tuscany and guise seem appropriate do you not think?
 
Ah yes, this is true. Hmm in that instance, perhaps she might be considered for Emperor Leopold?
Marguerite? After Margarita Teresa why not... Or she can marry the son of the ATL Ferdinand II of Tuscany if dates can work
She can also marry ATL Ferdinand II of Tuscany if he is widowed without sons
 
Marguerite? After Margarita Teresa why not... Or she can marry the son of the ATL Ferdinand II of Tuscany if dates can work

Hmm interesting, Henrietta would likely marry the duke at the same time she married Charles otl, meanin their firstborn son could /e born in 1626,and if he marries someone in 1644,then I think yeah the dates could work.

I a, debating whether or not to have Philip IV son survive, or have an older daughter survive other than Maria Theresa, to spice things up a bit.
 
Hmm interesting, Henrietta would likely marry the duke at the same time she married Charles otl, meanin their firstborn son could /e born in 1626,and if he marries someone in 1644,then I think yeah the dates could work.

I a, debating whether or not to have Philip IV son survive, or have an older daughter survive other than Maria Theresa, to spice things up a bit.
Another daughter of Philip IV by Isabella of France surviving would be great (as she will be likely the second wife of Ferdinand III). Or we can have Philip OTL children (maybe minus Carlos II or with him dying earlier) with Margarita married to a surviving Karl Josef of Austria (aka Leopold younger half-brother) and so Leopold free for Marguerite

Anything who will keep Louis XIV away from Spain and his possessions (and the dowry of Maria Theresa much lower than OTL) can be only good
Plus anything excluding Balthasar Carlos surviving and having sons (but with him married to Mariana is unlikely so I will keep that as OTL) will likely end with Milan in possession of the Emperor
 
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