You are not the only one Brandon...
France going to the New World - interesting.
Is England commissioning exploration voyages at this time?
A Queen Twice Over: Mary Tudor the Elder Marries Francis I of France
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You are not the only one Brandon...
France going to the New World - interesting.
Is England commissioning exploration voyages at this time?
Well, it was a voyage they sponsored OTL, it seemed only fair to mention it.
Do you know, I have no idea. I have enough drama in England as it is. I haven't thought about their involvement in the new world as well...
Oh, Henry, you idiot.
This isn't even like OTL Anne, where you spent seven long years waiting for her; how long has it been? One year? Two? Brandon's correct; people(not just commoners) aren't going to be happy with crowning your *consort* with the crown that's, y'know, reserved for *monarchs*? And Mary's not even like a duke's daughter, but an Earl's; the Howards and the other ducal families are going to be pissed. She's going to be seen as a jealous, bitter upstart; I wouldn't be surprised if centuries down the line, she's referred to as a witch similar to how Anne was OTL, except this time it's a little more justified.
This is going to be an absolutely chaotic mess, especially if baby ends up a girl (twin girls! Triplets! Just to rub it in Henry and Mary's face!)
This isn't even like OTL Anne, where you spent seven long years waiting for her; how long has it been? One year? Two? Brandon's correct; people(not just commoners) aren't going to be happy with crowning your *consort* with the crown that's, y'know, reserved for *monarchs*? And Mary's not even like a duke's daughter, but an Earl's; the Howards and the other ducal families are going to be pissed. She's going to be seen as a jealous, bitter upstart; I wouldn't be surprised if centuries down the line, she's referred to as a witch similar to how Anne was OTL, except this time it's a little more justified.
This is going to be an absolutely chaotic mess, especially if baby ends up a girl (twin girls! Triplets! Just to rub it in Henry and Mary's face!)
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Yes, Brandon, you and me both. (And apparently loads of other people in the same thread.)
No one likes Mary here, we want Katherine back or Diane de Poiters to become Queen!
Now I want to see Katherine's reaction if Mary bears a daughter. Is she going to pity her? Laugh at her? @FalconHonour, please write this. It would also be interesting to see Mary Younger's reaction (everyone's been telling her "Prince of Wales is coming" and then they tell her again "Nope, you're still the heir")
You're not getting either of those things, although you will eventually get a third Queen for Henry...
I think it's fifteen months or so since Henry first laid eyes on Mary Talbot... I haven't been counting too closely.
But yes, Mary Talbot is NOT popular, although she's less hated by the commoners than Brandon thinks... The annulment has helped there, at least when they're getting a holiday and free wine to mark her coronation.
We're getting foreign reactions to start with, and then the two Mary's further down the line
Haha, I used to have a friend who would say that they followed any religion that had special days which allowed them to get off school (I come from a country with a *lot* of those religious holidays-Vesak Day, Diwali, Good Friday-all days off!)
Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s Diane...her husband is at war in Italy so she could very well wind up a widow in the next few months.
That would make sense, though @FalconHonour has confirmed the third wife won't be Diane. Though that doesn't mean Diane can't put Mary in her place!
Don't we all enjoy those?!
Yeah, I don't read Diane as wanting a crown. She'll be Henry's Maitresse-en-titre and happy about it!
I have managed to write two whole chapters today! I'm feeling very productive. As of this evening, we have reached 1524, which is an extremely busy year!
And yes, I'll probably manage to sneak a Diane/Mary Talbot confrontation in there for you all...
If it's just as good as the Bessie/Mary the Older confrontation in Queen is Dead!, I'll be happy as a clam.
I can't see it being quite as explosive - Diane's the wrong character for that - but we'll see!
Fair enough. IOTL she never pressured Henri II for anything more (though he hardly had much of a chance to give her anything more TBH) so that makes complete sense here. I think it will be fun to have a french-style maîtresse at the Tudor court though, and by fun i mean it will provide lots of great opportunities for drama lol