Fair point, but given the circumstances, I think he can be forgiven some intemperate language.... Which has just given me an excellent idea...
A Queen Twice Over: Mary Tudor the Elder Marries Francis I of France
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I'm sorry but as a seventh semester nursing student, I just wanna say: brain damage is not a joke. Millions of families suffer every year.
Oh, I'm well aware of that, and yes, they probably will end up with massive concussions, but how many footballers head the ball a million times in their careers without too much of a problem? How many rugby players get concussions every year and yet keep playing the game they love? I think Jean and Nemours will survive one blow to the head with the pommel of a sword. And in Nemours' case, that's just a prelude to his execution for treason, so without making light of it, I really wouldn't worry about his health.
Not quite the end, François still has to decide what to do with the various conspirators, but yeah, we're almost there.
It was never my intention to joke about it. I wrote my comment under the assumption that both would be soon executed, though it seems that won’t be the case for Jean.
Not for the King's brother. Not at the first offence. George of Clarence was forgiven his first treason, after all.
god the comparison isn't making me hopeful for jean's redemption.
On the other hand, they also have the history of George of Clarence to go by, so there's that too
It's ok. I tried...
Nope, sorry!
I feel bad for Jean! To me he is just a love struck, grief stricken teenager! I don’t know why so many readers want a teenager who see his bride killed in front of him killed!!!
That's not his bride, that's his (essentially) stepmother...
That’s not his wife, that’s his stepmother… *sweet home Alabama intensifies*
Well, his father’s mistress, but she was more of a mother than his actual mother. I’m still lowkey angry at Marie.
Thank you, yes. Jean's wife is also an Isabella, but I refer to her as Bella rather than Isabella or, as Jean called Isabella of Navarre, 'Mama Isabelle'.
Also, Jean might only be fourteen, but you have to remember that fourteen is a man in the eyes of the time. He's more than old enough to know what he was doing when he rose against his brother and to face the consequences.
Oh, I don't deny Marie handled the disaster of 1528 badly, but that's still no excuse for Jean's recent actions. François had nothing to do with that. He was only eleven himself, for heaven's sake!
Yeah I’m not excusing Jean, nor am I blaming Francois (the one who’s actually in the right here), but I am blaming Marie.
She definitely acted awfully, but grief is weird. People do some very odd things when they're grieving. I should know.