A proper name for the American South?

[Turquoise Blue]

Face it, except for New England, all American regional names suck. The Midwest (Subdivided into the Great Plains and the Great Lakes), the South (subdivided into the Upper South and the Deep South), the Pacific Northwest, the Mountainous West, the Desert Southwest and the Midatlantic. None are really "good" names.

Do you want good names for all those?

Midwest: Just split it in GP and GL.
South: Southland or Dixie.
Pacific Northwest: Cascadia
Mountainous West: Rockia or Rockyland
Desert Southwest: El Norte or North Mexico
Midatlantic: Heartland.

 

[Clandango]

Do you want good names for all those?

Midwest: Just split it in GP and GL.
South: Southland or Dixie.
Pacific Northwest: Cascadia
Mountainous West: Rockia or Rockyland
Desert Southwest: El Norte or North Mexico
Midatlantic: Heartland.

Pacifica is a better nam than that wretched Cascadia. As for names with geography in them, Australia, Israel, and South Africa are full of them.

 

[Iori]

Pacifica is a better nam than that wretched Cascadia. As for names with geography in them, Australia, Israel, and South Africa are full of them.

Cascadia is awesome.

Also, Pacific is really better for either a region encompassing the entire West coast or something encompassing California and areas near it.

 

[Ancientone]

Sutherland!

 

[FleetMac]

Here's one that just might work, given the right POD: Australia! It does mean "Land of the South" in Latin, after all

 

[Superman]

Here's one that just might work, given the right POD: Australia! It does mean "Land of the South" in Latin, after all

But the southern United States isn't really "southern", especially when plaaces like South America and Africa are already known

 

[9 Fanged Hummingbird]

But the southern United States isn't really "southern", especially when plaaces like South America and Africa are already known

It's southern in the context and that's all that really matters. Besides, Southlands or any variation of it sounds much better than Dixie which isn't nearly as popular as you people seem to believe it is.

 

[Turek]

But the southern United States isn't really "southern", especially when plaaces like South America and Africa are already known

We still think of the South as the South, don't we? Besides, an "Australia" could be "South" of "Virginia" or "New England".

 

[Westphalian]

Originally, all of the North Amarican Southeast was called Florida by the Spanish - not just the current state and the Gulf Coast up to Louisiana's Florida parishes, but also the Atlöantic Coast up to the Chesapeake Bay: The Spanish jesuits's Ajacán Mission in current Virginia was also seen als part of Florida.

So, with the right PoD, Florida might become the common name for the area between the Deleware and the Lower Mississippi.

 

[FleetMac]

I guess in absolute geographical terms, there are places below the Southern US, however as noted it works contextually.

Although, I wonder if a "Southron" Australia or Southern Cone could be accomplished (especially the latter, since Argentina + Uruguay has a climate not too dissimilar from the Southern US and can grow much of the same types of crops).

EDIT: Florida's also a good suggestion, and it has extra usefulness since it describes the region geographically, instead of just being a randomly assigned name.

 

[Turek]

EDIT: Florida's also a good suggestion, and it has extra usefulness since it describes the region geographically, instead of just being a randomly assigned name.

Well, kind of - a lot of places are flowery, you see.

 

[FleetMac]

I was referring to its crop-friendly climate (well, at least in parts of it). Honestly, I was just trying to plug the suggestion, as it's a new one to me.

 

[Turek]

I was referring to its crop-friendly climate (well, at least in parts of it). Honestly, I was just trying to plug the suggestion, as it's a new one to me.

Understandable.

But yes, Florida, Virginia, or even Carolina or Georgia could make with the right POD. (I could also see Indiana, you know, land of the Indians? More ASB than the others, though.)

 

[FleetMac]

Understandable.

But yes, Florida, Virginia, or even Carolina or Georgia could make with the right POD. (I could also see Indiana, you know, land of the Indians? More ASB than the others, though.)

Well, Glen's TL includes a Province called "Indiana" where the 5 Civilized Tribes made their own local government. Another idea for the region (getting into super-early POD/ASB territory though) is "Cherokia" or something like that, obviously referring to the biggest tribe in the area.

I like the Florida one mostly because of the extent of Spanish settlement, which could make for interesting quirks in an established Southron nation if it began as a Latin-colonized area, then later re-settled by Anglo-Scots-Irish settlers and African workers/slaves...sorta like OTL's Texas, now that I think about it!

 

[ingemann]

Alternative they could name it after political leader (Conderation of Jefferson) or a concept (Liberia, Freedonia, Libertiria, Big Ballia).

 

[Westphalian]

Generally it seems like a language quirk that the Caribbean is called the West Indies, but while the natives of the mainland are called Indians/Indios, their homeland 's name is not related to that.

So, with rather small changes to the work of early cartographers, we might see the double continent of West India, with the Carribbean as the West Indian Islands.

So the area in question would be, of course, Southeast North West India.

 

[Noddy]

I quite like the name Southland, so that by extension my region can become Westland.

 

[Superman]

I quite like the name Southland, so that by extension my region can become Westland.

But then my region becomes Northland, or worse, Le Nord!

 

[M79]

What about Terra Civitates Foederatae Americae Australensis?

 

[FleetMac]

....way, way too Latin. And if we're going with a "Rome conquers the New World" TL, well it just wouldn't be the same thing this thread's talking about then.