This. If Georgia never formed, Carolina could be an independent country including Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, and Tennessee. That's pretty much what we think of as the South, east of the Mississippi River.
A proper name for the American South?
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This. If Georgia never formed, Carolina could be an independent country including Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, and Tennessee. That's pretty much what we think of as the South, east of the Mississippi River.
The English once referred to basically all of North America as Virginia. If New England and the Canadian Maritimes still exist, Virginia could refer to the South.
I've spent most of my life in the south, so here is my two cents. First, the reason the south has the name it does is because its the most easily defined region of the united states. Who is to say where the "midwest" ends and begins? I mean you can define it all day long, but at the end of the day there is no clear boundries. The south is the same way, except that a good portion of it is coastline. To put it another way, i grew up in Kentucky, which is considered by the rest of the country to be the border. Let me put it this way. When i visit my family in Louisville, it feels a little midwestern. When i visit my family in whitesberg, there is nothing midwestern about it. Even southern ohio feels southern, but to someone in Alabama it would be considered South Lite.
My point is, it might be a difficult region to define because its all a matter of perspective. And i dont think dixie works, because that harks back to the confederacy (which people outside the south might be surprised to learn, isn't an incredibly popular thing). "The south" seems to work just fine for everyone here
My point is, it might be a difficult region to define because its all a matter of perspective. And i dont think dixie works, because that harks back to the confederacy (which people outside the south might be surprised to learn, isn't an incredibly popular thing). "The south" seems to work just fine for everyone here
So do y'all think "Republic of the South" would be a reasonable, serious name for a Southern republic, rather than something out of some really bad AH-type thing like Crimson Skies?
I suppose it's fine -- after all, there was a "Mountain Republic" during the Russian Civil War...
Thanks, all.
I suppose it's fine -- after all, there was a "Mountain Republic" during the Russian Civil War...
Thanks, all.
It could always be called Republic of Southland... Or if ya want, Virginia or Carolina could work. I like the latter more.
Virginia's much the same way (although that canker-sore NoVA makes things interesting, to say the least); it's Southern, but at the same time it has its distinctive quirks that set it aside, and even blur the line in some regards. And poor West Virginia...I can agree it's not the South, but it certainly ain't the North-east or Midwest either.
A "Republic of the South", fully inclusive of the last part, I think can work. And as far as the fact that there are other countries further south (in an absolute sense), my theory is that those are more "Antipode-ish". Another idea (if one wanted to hearken back to the Confederacy, which as matashowski pointed out isn't a universally good thing even in the South itself!), you could call it the CSA and have it stand for "Confederacy of Southron America" (similar to Glen's DSA TL).
Some of the colonies in New England were offshoots of Massachusetts and had a common origin from the Puritans. Most of the Southern states are distinct in their founding, whether as a military border garrison (Georgia), a planter's colony due to overcrowding of Barbados (South Carolina), a scheme to implement a form of indentured servitude on a wider scale (North Carolina), gold mining/processing (Virginia), a religious grant for services rendered (Maryland), or as a holdover from another nation's colonization attempts that was separated from another colony later (Delaware).
Even today there is a distinct difference between parts of the South, i.e. the Upper South (KY, TN, WV, most of VA, and if not considered its own entity NC), the Deep South (eastern TX, AR, LA, MS, AL, GA, SC, northern FL), and whatever FL becomes once you cross I-4.
Even today there is a distinct difference between parts of the South, i.e. the Upper South (KY, TN, WV, most of VA, and if not considered its own entity NC), the Deep South (eastern TX, AR, LA, MS, AL, GA, SC, northern FL), and whatever FL becomes once you cross I-4.
Neither "United States," "United Kingdom," "People's Republic," or "Bundesrepublic" are adjectives (they can be used as adjectives in English just like other nouns). They are all proper names.
I've read Southerners sometimes referring to their region as 'the Southlands'.
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Face it, except for New England, all American regional names suck. The Midwest (Subdivided into the Great Plains and the Great Lakes), the South (subdivided into the Upper South and the Deep South), the Pacific Northwest, the Mountainous West, the Desert Southwest and the Midatlantic. None are really "good" names.
United States of Southern America
United States of Confederate America
American Confederation
United States of Confederate America
American Confederation
It was an unofficial anthem written by a Northern Unionist who lived during the period and said he regretted ever making it because of the secessionists.