The Future King George V lost his virginity at 17 to an "actress". The whole thing was set up by a group of officers in his military unit. His mother was not amused.
Wasn't Edward VII's dalliance with Nellie Whatsherface a similar occurence?
The Future King George V lost his virginity at 17 to an "actress". The whole thing was set up by a group of officers in his military unit. His mother was not amused.
more than "losing their virginity" was a way to ascertain their fertility.
famous is the case of Duke Vincenzo I of Mantua.
I have to ask - who lives in the Vatican is can have sex???
On the Swiss Guard front:
So, a 19 year old Swiss guy who serves for three years would, at 22, be allowed to marry (and obviously sleep with) a wife of minimum age of 18. They can continue until he's 44 and she's 40. The wife and children get Vatican citizenship for the duration.
- To join, you must be 19-30 years old, a male Swiss national, German-speaking, and an unmarried virgin. You must initially sign up for two years.
- After three years, you can marry if you sign up for at least three more years.
- Maximum service is twenty-five years.
Apparently it's also very common for Swiss Guard recruits to be homosexual, but that isn't talked about.
What duration? Only while he and his wife are schtupping? So if Hans is born when dad is 43 and 11 months, he gets citizenship but if Juri is born when his dad is 44 and 2 months no dice?
Or does it mean that the kids only have Vatican citizenship while mom and dad are having Biblical relations? I.e. once dad turns 44 your citizenship gets revoked?
As to them being gay, wasn't there a gay porno made about this?
The duration of the guy's service in the Swiss Guard (which isn't until he's 44 years old, unless he joins at 19, it's 25 years service total. A 30 year-old Swiss virgin who signs up can stay until he's 55).
The wife loses her citizenship if the marriage gets annulled/the husband leaves. As for the children, apparently a son remains a Vatican citizen until he's 25, and a daughter until she gets married. If anyone ends up stateless via loss of citizenship, they apparently automatically qualify for Italian citizenship.
Was the studio who made that film named after a famous novel?As to them being gay, wasn't there a gay porno made about this?
Bel Ami. Don't ask how I know.Was the studio who made that film named after a famous novel?
You made the movie didn’t youBel Ami. Don't ask how I know.
Aside for the debate about those practices were/are questionable or less, I am more surprised it wasn't discussed as well why such practice were needed - to prepare the future ruler to sexual life, because could sire soon as possible a legitimate heir, and eventually more for safety, so the dynasty is preserved for another generation and the country would be stable, otherwise why all were saying "long live the king" back then? It was besides the gist of European history from the Middle Ages at least till the peace of Aachen of 1747, and a bit more after that.
By the way, it may be interesting to note this strategy didn't work at all for Louis XIII, but he is quite a peculiar case in the line of the French kings (and his son for all the opposite reasons)
So after 1747 we're looking at it becoming an outdated practice? (Perhaps with Edward VII, George V and Franz Josef being the exceptions?) Or am I misunderstanding your use of the treaty of Aachen?
It wasn't just Louis XIII, but I imagine that with someone like Louis XVI, it probably would've helped (maybe likewise with Henri V, Comte de Chambord and his chastity belt) to, excuse the crass imagery, have "someone showing him the ropes"?
I wanted more to say after that date, dynastical crisis weren't considered a sufficient reason to start an European war after the excesses of the past 50 years.
Yup I make gay pornos. What can say it ain't much but it's honest work....You made the movie didn’t you
How could they believe, that 30 years is the end of childbearing age, when they had proof all around that it is not true? I think it was rather the fact, that these older ladies were experienced, thus they knew perfectly how to avoid unwanted pregnancy, they were doing it for years.Slightly tangent to the issue, but is it possible that the practice to have the prince (relevant: was it only the heir or were second sons etc also introduced to sex in such a way?) lose his virginity with a lady-in-waiting so much older was due to:
- a higher control by the queen on the whole affair;
- the ladies' age making it unlikely (IIRC they thought that 30 was the end of child-bearing years) that there would be bastards inconveniently older than the future legitimate children of said prince?