A possibly mad idea: King George II of Great Britain...

Never going to happen....period

Disregarding the whole protestant/catholic problems that would arise, She would then be his eldest child and heir to the British throne....even if George went nuts and decided to marry one of his only two children, and heir no less, to a French ruler of Spain, two of England's oldest enemies, as well as scions of the Bourbon dynasty, Parliament would never allow it...they may even remove him from being King and make the next descendant of Sophia the ruler (and even if they went bonkers too, the people would never stand for it)
 
Never going to happen....period

Disregarding the whole protestant/catholic problems that would arise, She would then be his eldest child and heir to the British throne....even if George went nuts and decided to marry one of his only two children, and heir no less, to a French ruler of Spain, two of England's oldest enemies, as well as scions of the Bourbon dynasty, Parliament would never allow it...they may even remove him from being King and make the next descendant of Sophia the ruler (and even if they went bonkers too, the people would never stand for it)

My thinking was that the establishment of a "High Anglican" church would at least partially cure the religious problem while Phillip renouncing any claim to France would help politically.

There would still be conflict, sure, but an Anglo-Spanish monarch would have a lot of control over the New World (read: all control), and I could see Parliament relaxing in the face of all the territorial gains. Besides, a personal Union does not a political union make.
 
My thinking was that the establishment of a "High Anglican" church would at least partially cure the religious problem while Phillip renouncing any claim to France would help politically.

There would still be conflict, sure, but an Anglo-Spanish monarch would have a lot of control over the New World (read: all control), and I could see Parliament relaxing in the face of all the territorial gains. Besides, a personal Union does not a political union make.

Um HELL NO!!!! Spain and Britain, in a union?!?! Impossible. For one the religious affairs would NEVER allow such a marriage. This is barely 30 years after James II was kicked of the throne for being to Catholic/absolutist. NO way Parliament would agree to something like this. So really ASB.
 
My thinking was that the establishment of a "High Anglican" church would at least partially cure the religious problem while Phillip renouncing any claim to France would help politically.

There would still be conflict, sure, but an Anglo-Spanish monarch would have a lot of control over the New World (read: all control), and I could see Parliament relaxing in the face of all the territorial gains. Besides, a personal Union does not a political union make.

Then you need to research Parliament, the religious and political situations of the time more

First: if George even accepted this, hed be damming his own House and losing Hanover the moment he kicked it (they didn't allow women to inherit) something hed never do, as he loved Hanover (and no matter how liberal it got later, they never changed their succession laws)
Dont forget the aforementioned populace of the UK, who, again, would never accept it...they've deposed a Monarchy before, and had little love for George to begin with...so why risk everything he has to gain for the protection of Hanover for this?

Secondly: Phillip could promise his entire empire (which, at that point, was starting to crack), renounce Catholicism and everything...its still implausible Parliament would ever accept him.....they spent ages making sure no Catholic Monarchs would get the throne, or allow any Continental Powers get a foothold anywhere int he British isles anymore (when i mean Powers i mean Powers, i.e: France and Spain)

Thirdly: the UK had just fought a war against Phillip, Spain and France, to prevent Phillip from even gaining his throne, and possibly, which was the fear, allowing a Franco-Spanish Union to happen....i doubt even if all that bad feeling dissipated, they wouldn't risk allow England, the UK and its Empire to fall into the same predicament...plus none of the other European powers would have allowed it either..no matter how you play it, it would destroy the fragile balance of power

If you ever want to see a scenario like this, then you need to get it in ASB, cos in reality, no matter what...it. would. never. happen.


EDIT: Its also likly, if George tried this, Hanover might've deposed him too....no way they were going to let a Catholic near their throne, least of all a French Bourbon
 
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Okay, maybe I'm confused.

If George II is a girl - call her Sophie Dorothea (George's OTL sister, named after their mother) - then that means OTL Sophie Dorothea might be born a boy, if not, Hannover will pass to the Bishop of Osnabruck when Georg I dies.

Secondly, if Sophie Dorothea does marry Philip V - does she marry him as first or second wife? If first wife, then the Act of Settlement was relatively fresh, ergo, it could just be extended to exclude Electress Sophie's oldest son. If SD replaces Isabel Farnese then it's impossible. Firstly because Georg I is already king of Britain - and Parliament's not gonna like the prospect of a possible Franco-Spanish-British union any more than it would've in the reign of either Mary I (England or Scotland) - possibly even less.

Also, to replace Farnese, one will have to replace the Princesse d'Ursins - since she was the lady who brought La Farnese to Spain in the first place (thinking that the lady would be so grateful to her, she'd let her continue running the place, since she would never have expected to be queen of Spain). Unfortunately, d'Ursins was greeted coldly by Farnese, and then sent back to France immediately (still in her clothes with which she had received the new queen, and her coachman's hands had to be amputated after suffering frostbite on the ride to the border - in the middle of winter).
 
The Act of Settlement which gave George I the throne specifically forbids anyone of the RC faith from holding the crown and also bars anyone married to a Roman Catholic gaining the throne.
So if your Sophia Dorothea (OTL George II) marries a RC (and it is inconceivable to imagine a Spanish King converting) then she and her heirs will lose their rights to the British Throne.
So the new heir would be her younger sister OTL Sophia Dorothea (who married the King in Prussia)
 
Um HELL NO!!!! Spain and Britain, in a union?!?! Impossible. For one the religious affairs would NEVER allow such a marriage. This is barely 30 years after James II was kicked of the throne for being to Catholic/absolutist. NO way Parliament would agree to something like this. So really ASB.

Relax.

Then you need to research Parliament, the religious and political situations of the time more

First: if George even accepted this, hed be damming his own House and losing Hanover the moment he kicked it (they didn't allow women to inherit) something hed never do, as he loved Hanover (and no matter how liberal it got later, they never changed their succession laws)
Dont forget the aforementioned populace of the UK, who, again, would never accept it...they've deposed a Monarchy before, and had little love for George to begin with...so why risk everything he has to gain for the protection of Hanover for this?

Secondly: Phillip could promise his entire empire (which, at that point, was starting to crack), renounce Catholicism and everything...its still implausible Parliament would ever accept him.....they spent ages making sure no Catholic Monarchs would get the throne, or allow any Continental Powers get a foothold anywhere int he British isles anymore (when i mean Powers i mean Powers, i.e: France and Spain)

Thirdly: the UK had just fought a war against Phillip, Spain and France, to prevent Phillip from even gaining his throne, and possibly, which was the fear, allowing a Franco-Spanish Union to happen....i doubt even if all that bad feeling dissipated, they wouldn't risk allow England, the UK and its Empire to fall into the same predicament...plus none of the other European powers would have allowed it either..no matter how you play it, it would destroy the fragile balance of power

If you ever want to see a scenario like this, then you need to get it in ASB, cos in reality, no matter what...it. would. never. happen.


EDIT: Its also likly, if George tried this, Hanover might've deposed him too....no way they were going to let a Catholic near their throne, least of all a French Bourbon

Well, you're quite right that I'm pretty ignorant of this eras parliamentary politics, but I do agree there would be an outcry.

The idea came from the desire to see nearly all of the New World under one crown. If for no other reason than for cultural butterflies.

Okay, maybe I'm confused.

If George II is a girl - call her Sophie Dorothea (George's OTL sister, named after their mother) - then that means OTL Sophie Dorothea might be born a boy, if not, Hannover will pass to the Bishop of Osnabruck when Georg I dies.

Secondly, if Sophie Dorothea does marry Philip V - does she marry him as first or second wife? If first wife, then the Act of Settlement was relatively fresh, ergo, it could just be extended to exclude Electress Sophie's oldest son. If SD replaces Isabel Farnese then it's impossible. Firstly because Georg I is already king of Britain - and Parliament's not gonna like the prospect of a possible Franco-Spanish-British union any more than it would've in the reign of either Mary I (England or Scotland) - possibly even less.

Also, to replace Farnese, one will have to replace the Princesse d'Ursins - since she was the lady who brought La Farnese to Spain in the first place (thinking that the lady would be so grateful to her, she'd let her continue running the place, since she would never have expected to be queen of Spain). Unfortunately, d'Ursins was greeted coldly by Farnese, and then sent back to France immediately (still in her clothes with which she had received the new queen, and her coachman's hands had to be amputated after suffering frostbite on the ride to the border - in the middle of winter).

As to the first bit: First wife.

As to the second bit: That's extremely metal.
 
A High Anglican church? You do realise who any High Anglican church would consider King of England ?

If Geo I has only daughters , then the Hanover personal union is gone,marry who they will. The British Parliament and people will be delighted.But the absolute last thing they would agree to would be another personal union with Spain of all people.

I cannot conceive of a King of Spain at that period converting.But if he did I very much doubt he would be able to hang on to his Spanish throne.

Sorry but this really is ASB territory.
 
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