A Perfect Democracy: The World That Huey Made

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  1. ThunderHG Member

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    What's the deal with Canada/Ontario?
     
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  2. mdc_1957 Still present here

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    That looks like quite a blursed world. I like it!

    Also, does some element of the former British monarchy attempt to establish some Commonwealth/Empire in exile?
     
  3. GustavusAdolphus1 Well-Known Member

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    Is there a working map of 2019/2020?
     
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  4. Darth_Kiryan The Númenorean Sith

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    As disgusting as it is, its kinda interesting to see a surviving Nazi state....to some extent.

    So, a North Korean state in Africa?
     
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    *wink, wink, nudge nudge*

    Following the collapse of the British monarchy, Canada soon split up into several nations beginning with Quebec under Maurice Duplessis. Western Canada, now known as Ursalia, followed by the Maritimes followed suit, leaving Ontario as the only continuation of old Canada.

    That's kind of what I was going for. Not great. Not Terrible. No more blursed than OTL. :p

    The Western War and the following collapse of the British Empire discredited the British Monarchy. George VI was already declining in health when a freak train accident killed his wife and two daughters. While this wouldn't have ended the line, George recognized that the days of the monarchy were numbered. While certainly monarchists were still around, there was no movement to continue on the British monarchy in exile.

    That's the hope. I'm working on a qbam version of this map, and will plan to use that as a base for the 2020 map.

    Good eye. I was trying to go for a North Korea vibe with the "Nazi Juche" that permeates Namibian life. Like NK, it truly is a hellhole.
     
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  6. GustavusAdolphus1 Well-Known Member

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    So how popular is monarchism in Britain currently? Are there any major parties that advocate for the restoration?

    On a similar, albeit probably much sillier, note, with the deposition of the House of Windsor, has Jacobitism made a comeback among British monarchists at all?
     
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    The end of the British monarchy was rather civil and bloodless, so there isn't a virulent hostility to monarchy or monarchism as one would expect. However, there is a general sense in modern England that monarchy is an outdated institution. "What good is a King if he doesn't/can't do anything?" An increasingly powerful executive presidency has cemented the notion that monarchy, at best, is superfluous and quaint. There are the occassional oddballs and LARPers who advocate for a return to the monarchy, but they're few and far between.

    There are still a few Jacobite LARPers in England, as one might expect. Jacobitism actually had a serious chance in the newly independent Scotland, albeit very briefly. A few romantics at the Scottish constitutional convention put forward a motion to formally invite Albrecht, Duke of Bavaria to reclaim his place as the rightful King of Scotland. The motion was quickly voted down.
     
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  8. Threadmarks: Alec and Kay Reed

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    Alec and Kay Reed

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    Alec James Reed is a politician and statesman currently serving as the 45th President of the United States. Before his term as president, he previously served as a Senator from Indiana as well as a member of the Indiana Senate.

    Born in 1963 in Indianapolis, Indiana to a Presbyterian clergyman, Reed moved around the state with his family until moving to Auburn, Indiana at the age of 12. His father had been active in politics, and supported the Democratic Party, though his mother had sympathies for the Constitutional Alliance. Reed would attribute his more moderate and conciliatory approach to watching his parents discuss their political differences.

    He received his bachelor of arts in political science at Jubilee University, an evangelical college in Monroe, Louisiana with a Christian Left orientation. From there, he pursued his Juris doctorate at Harvard University. During this time, he became far more involved in Democratic politics, working as a staffer for then-candidate Helen Marshall's 1988 presidential campaign in Ohio. It was there that he met his wife-to-be Kay Fields. They would marry in June of 1990.

    Reed served briefly as a lawyer for the Auburn Automobile Company before turning to full time politics, being elected to the state Senate as a Democrat in 1994. From there, he was elected to the Senate in 2000, and again in 2006. Rather than pursue another term, he announced his candidacy for the presidency in 2011. Throughout the primary and general elections, he ran as a moderate, distancing himself from the diehard Longist elements that had cost the party in the 2008 election. The strategy paid off, with him winning a plurality of the popular vote and a firm majority of the electoral college.

    As President, Reed has favored a strategy of consensus building, as well as enacting pro-growth strategies by easing capital levies on certain corporations. Despite grumbling from among Longites, Reed was able to coast to a second term in 2016. However, the economy entered a recession the next year. While the stock market has ticked back up out of recession territory, Reed is still feeling the heat from the general public. While he is not on the ballot for the 2020 election, the Democratic Primaries will be seen as a referendum on the future course of the party, whether it be towards moderation or diehard Longism.

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    While her husband might be suffering politically, Kay Reed appears to be as popular as ever. Polls consistently rate her among the most popular public figures in America, most likely down to her charm and grace. Her image as a "domestic goddess" has enabled many women to relate to her (and even translate into votes). Some commentators have noted that Reed's political viability owes much to his wife's popularity as to any policy that he has enacted.
     
  9. Gabzcervo Vanguards of Liberty and Paradise is coming soon

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    Awesome work, @MasterSanders, who are the rival presidential candidates that was beaten by current President Alec Reed?

    What Richard Nixon, George H.W. Bush, and Ronald Reagan doing in this TTL?
     
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    Reagan had his own popular TV show ITTL on an alt-PBS and presumably stayed an actor because of it. (Unless that's been retconned, that is.)
     
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  11. MasterSanders Every Man a King

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    Thank you.

    I may do those in the future.

    I'll work on those in the near future as well. Refer to @HeX 's post for clarification.

    That's definitely not getting retconned. That was probably my most popular post. ;)
     
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    Great work!

    Though is it just me or does Reed seem like a blend of Bush and Obama?
     
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    Fair point. Guess I was imagining this President Reed being somehow related to the Reed who would have founded the CSA in Kaiserreich.
     
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    No relation, though I'd say there's a bit of Freudian slip, as it were. ;)
     
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    > succeeded by Ben Wyatt for Indiana Senate

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    I think it is appropriate to ask a question about the situation of women in the world - given that the Democratic Party has a strong conservative wing, and Eurasia has been under the heel of outright fascists for some time. How much is it different from ours? How deeply did the struggle for gender equality go?
     
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    Good eye. ;)

    Like our world, the world of A Perfect Democracy is a bit strange, much like ours. The Democratic Party does have a "conservative" wing, but even so they are much more to the Left, at least when it comes to economics, being slightly to the right of Bernie Sanders IOTL. If measured by our standards, we might call them "right-wing" social democrats.

    As for the issue of gender equality, its also a bit more nuanced. In the Western world, most women still have the right to vote, even in formerly Fascist/National Socialist countries. Women also hold office in these countries. America has had a female President (who will be the subject of a future write up), and South Africa is on the verge of having a female Prime Minister (again, more in the future).

    Even with that in mind, the status of women in the United States is a bit more conservative than IOTL. There are women who have careers in the business and political sectors, but most women opt for a domestic path. Recall that there was no World War II, at least for the United States, and thus women did not assume factory jobs in large numbers as they did IOTL. Culturally, the housewife is considered the peak of American womanhood.
     
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    Eugene Wesley Roddenberry
    was an American screenwriter of science fiction stories, and founder of the Order of the Sons and Daughters of Vulcan. Originally hailing from El Paso, Texas, his family moved to Los Angeles when his father passed the Civil Service exam and was employed as a police officer. During his childhood, Young Gene developed a fascination for science fiction. As an adult, he worked both as a police officer and a pilot for the US Army Air Corps. During this time, he experienced a traumatic flight accident when his plane overshot the runway, resulting in him being the only survivor. While a later inquiry absolved him of responsibility, the accident would have a tremendous impact on the rest of his life.

    Following his stint in the service, Roddenberry worked as a free-lance writer for various radio and television shows. Around this time, Roddenberry also became fascinated with the occult and eastern religions. His dabbling in the occult led him to write down his observations and ideas in what would be later published as The Journal. Here, the ideas of what would be later called Vulcanism. He started holding hosting meetings with friends and colleagues concerning his ideas, leading him to found the Order.

    Roddenberry claimed that following the plane crash he had been abducted by a race of aliens that referred to themselves as “Vulcans.” The Vulcans resembled humans in almost every way with the exception of pointed eyebrows and ears, much like older depictions of Satan. He learned from their leader “Spock” that the ills of the world – war, hatred, poverty, disease, religious fanaticism – are because humans are plagued by an irrational side to their personality. Humans were more than capable of evolving past this vestigial attitude, but were held back by a race referred to in the Vulcan tongue as “Klingons.” This insidious race was not a corporeal one, but their influence was broad in the world. While all men were under some of their influence in one degree or another, some men were more completely possessed by them, men like Long, Hitler, Mussolini, Bose, and others who sought to keep men in a perpetual state of servitude to fear and emotion. In order to achieve a higher state of evolution such as the Vulcans had achieved, mankind must rid itself of the influence of Klingons through the abolition of irrationality and restraining institutions such as the state, corporations, and organized religion (The reason why Satan was depicted as a Vulcan in order to keep humanity from attaining a similar level of enlightenment). Roddenberry was sent back as a “channel” for the ideas of Vulcan. According to him, the last words he heard from Spock were: “Humanity will one day rise like a Great Bird over the galaxy.”

    In its early years, Vulcanism was dismissed as another fringe cult, like many that had developed in Los Angeles at that time. However, by the 1970’s and 80’s, their ranks had grown, even as many had laughed off their beliefs. Around this time, Roddenberry’s rhetoric had increased in intensity and vitriol in his private meetings with followers. He believed that the Klingon’s hold on earth’s leadership was too strong to overthrow by peaceful means. In 1987, one of his followers took matters into her own hands. On October 18, 1987, Hayley Fountain charged at President Baker – purportedly while screaming “Die, you f*&king Klingon!” - while he was visiting the Griffith Observatory and shot him twice before being wrestled to the ground by Secret Service agents. Baker was rushed to the hospital, later dying from internal injuries.

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    Fountain’s Vulcanian connections sparked what became known as the “Vulcanic Panic,” with many feared the extent to which Vulcanists had permeated the highest levels of society. Roddenberry, aided by friends, managed to flee to Ursalia before then going to Bangkok, Thailand where he evaded attempts at extradition to the United States. He remained in exile for years before he died in 1991 from a heart attack. Some conspiracy theorists posit that he lived much longer, and controlled his network of Vulcanist agents that permeate the United States government. A fringe group of Vulcanists still exist after much of the initial structure fell apart with Roddenberry’s flight, though some contend that the original Order still exists as a clandestine organization.

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    Wow. Roddenberry really went batshit ITTL. Though at least he didn't do what Hubbard did and claim Douglas DC-8s were spacecraft or something.
     
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