A Nation renewed.

Scheisse. I was hoping the Yanks would have a harder time of it at least. Maybe not get all of Transappalachia or some such. Perhaps a stronger Britain retain present day Maine?

Oh here is an idea, I did some research on the Republican Era in Vermont a few years back. Right up until the surrender at York Town the Allen cabal had a plan to rejoi the Enmpire in exchange for recognition of Vermont as a political body(which the CC had not done, still recognizing it as territory of New York and New Hampshire). Ira Allen actually secured a deal for armamants from Britain and was enroute to help jump start the reunification by arming the Green Mountain boys and supplying them with the finest the King had to offer. Unfortunately word of Yorktown beat him to Vermont and as a result going ahead with plan would have been poltical suicide. All you need to get the Allens to through in with the Empire is for Ira to arrive allowing the Allen Junta to declare for the King while the English Army retains strength and you could see the Republic of Vermont become the Province of Vermont.

It would take som ewheeling and dealing but the British could probably do it by returning the parts of New Hampshire that had been acquired by Vermont and conceding the Southwest to New York.
 
Nitpick: I doubt this; the colonies wanted to sell their goods abroad and buy stuff; this is why the Brits had launched a blockade, after all.
This is true. The reason I had the Americans argue against Scottish trade would would be in an effort to help affect Englands economy to a greater extent(English traders trading through Scotland) and hopefully atain independence at a faster pace so that America could trade with whomever she wanted.
 
"It seems our efforts have had little consequence in the matter."(1)

The North American War 1780-1785

The declaration of war upon Englands' rebel colonies had little consequence. The English Army(2) had a string of victories in the period between the Scottish declaration of war and the small number of Scottish troops arriving on the field. By the time the Scots arrived in 1781, the English had made substantial gained, pushing the rebels as far back as New York, this despite substantial fears of them overstretching themselves. This was in addition to the troubles of the Continental Congress.

The Congress had been arguing over how to pursue policy towards the war and the post-war structure of North America. The discourse broke down when discussion came up over the rights of the states in this new nation after Maine declared that Maine would leave the Congress upon the conclusion of the war, with the belief that Maine should be seperate from the new American Union(3).

The first battle the Scots were involved in was the battle of Philedelphia. The Americans, with French aid defeated the Anglo-Scots force in the field and forced them back. Political will for the fight in London died at this point. Over the next two years, there was nothing but defeat for the English, who in 1784, declared that they were willing to negotiate with the colonies.

In 1785, an agreement was signed declaring that Maine and Quebec would be independent states, that a new United States would be formed(4), and that that all colonies north of this union would remain the property of the English Government. The Scots were not even directly mentioned in the peace treaty, with simply a quote to England and her allies ensuring Scotland was at peace with North America.

This was picked up on domestically. Mackenzie lost some of his popularity and the Scots were seen to be weak. The traders began trading again and so were sated though, so Mackenzie retained those eligible to vote. His grip on power was as strong as ever.

(1) James Mills in debate over the peace in the Estates.
(2) Consisting of Englishmen, Irish, German, Dutch and Scottish mercenaries.
(3) There was no Boston Tea Party in ttl, and there was a belief that the American forces gave up Maine too easily.
(4) Different from OTL. Congress in unicameral and it, not the electorate vote the head of state in, who is still called the President. The states have rights in all matters except trade, war and peace, foreign relations and some areas of taxation. In terms of states, all are included except Maine.
 
Scheisse! The US rears it head after all.

So then Maine and Quebec are still under the banner of House Hanover?

I take it you decided against Vwermont repatriating?

Did the Yankees still get Transappalachia?
 
Scheisse! The US rears it head after all.

So then Maine and Quebec are still under the banner of House Hanover?

I take it you decided against Vwermont repatriating?

Did the Yankees still get Transappalachia?
Maine and Quebec are independent republics, seperate to the United States. Yeah, I decided against your idea but Maine and Quebec have led to both a smaller territory kept by the English and a smaller United States.

As for Trans-Appalachia, the answer is it is still(mostly) within the US.
 
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