A More Perfect Union: An Alternate History of the Land of the Free

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: Before 1900' started by HeX, May 22, 2019.

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  1. HeX Self-Proclaimed Disney Expert

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    Most of the South that went Federalist in this election is the part that is pretty solidly African-American, Native American, or Hispanic (Virginia and West Florida excluded). The parts that went Socialist were largely white, and tended to overwhelmingly vote Populist (Texas excluded, being majority black/Hispanic). New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Delaware were all hard-fought for their respective parties, with only a very slim majority voting for their respective winners. Dakota, Montana, Shoshone, and Oregon were all also battlegrounds, given the Green Party's prominence there (and Dakota being like, "But Teddy lived here for a couple of years!").
     
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  2. HeX Self-Proclaimed Disney Expert

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    No, it's not. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, Donald Trump will not be a politician ITTL. He'll stay the largely well-liked pseudocelebrity he was in the 1980s and 90s.
     
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    Let me guess: it's Richard Nixon?
     
  4. HeX Self-Proclaimed Disney Expert

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    No, it is not. Richard Nixon's gonna be squeaky clean ITTL.
     
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    Truly a blessed TL
     
  6. Ironshark Well-Known Member

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    Nixon like other people in history seemed to have the traits to Be a great man but he didn’t use those traits well

    Guess he’ll play a part in ending the Phantom War here
     
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    Hey man, ASB is over there.
     
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    How about Donald Rumsfeld? (At this point, I'm just naming people who are portrayed as bad presidents in other TLs...)
     
  9. HeX Self-Proclaimed Disney Expert

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    No, not him either.
     
  10. Arrowfan237 Well-Known Member

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    It’s gotta be Lou Ferrigno, or Michael Eisner.
     
  11. Arrowfan237 Well-Known Member

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    Or the most ruthless American politician ever known. Someone who became responsible for the death of thousands of political enemies and robbed the U.S. Treasury blind.

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  12. HeX Self-Proclaimed Disney Expert

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    I shudder to think about President Michael Eisner. If he could run Disney into the ground, he could do it to the United States.
     
  13. Arrowfan237 Well-Known Member

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    That’s why Tom Hanks has him sentenced to death, leading to the 14th American Civil War.
     
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    That makes me wonder

    Hypothetically speaking how many civil wars does it take for a nation to lose all chances of being a great power?
     
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  15. HeX Self-Proclaimed Disney Expert

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    You realize you just posted the same thing three times, right?

    Anyways, if Russia and France are any barometer, I don't think the number of civil wars and revolutions has anything to with their ability to become a Great Power. Russia came out of WWI, two successive and bloody revolutions, Stalin's Purge, and a second World War wherein everything west of Moscow was razed to the ground as one of two global superpowers. France followed up its own violent and destructive revolution with the Napoleonic Wars, which they came rather close to winning in against all the rest of Europe and, following that, went on to colonize about a third or so of Africa and all of Indochina. So I guess it would take quite a few civil wars to destroy a Great Power.
     
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    So long as a nation stays intact and has the population to be one it only takes time. Large nations are near impossible to keep down long term.
     
  17. Ironshark Well-Known Member

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    Yep sorry I was in a area with bad WiFi And I kept refreshing the button thus posting it more then once
     
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  18. Israel_Dan the Man Well-Known Member

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    I hope the US doesn't go into civil war, the Great War's gonna start soon!
     
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    Hex the last post contains an error. The statement that a candidate needs 327 elector votes to win is incorrect. The correct amount is 328. A candidate must get 50% of the electoral votes plus 1 to win. Otherwise the election is decided by the House of Representatives.
     
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  20. HeX Self-Proclaimed Disney Expert

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    I, uh, rounded down when I was doing the math, to 237 needed to win. Since it's far too much effort to change it, just assume the US government does that too ITTL.
     
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