A little fascist enclave in Africa after WW-II.

Imagine that for some reason from late XIX Italy had a little enclave in Africa surrounded by Portuguese territory.
During WW-II,this enclave remain out of the war,and after Italian armistice states fidelity to fascist social Republic.
Imagine that in 1945 many fascist republican move to this little territory.
What happen?

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I suspect a surviving fascist state in Africa (white minority-ruled, of course) would have interesting ramifications for the independence/anti-apartheid struggles of the various southern African nations--it would probably have a significant interest in propping up white-minority governments in South Africa, Portuguese Mozambique, Rhodesia, etc., and as a military dictatorship with no democratic accountability, they'd probably have few reasons not to support those governments with massive shipments of guns.

Portugal declares for the allied cause, invades and conquers it.

Why would Portugal join the allies? They were neutral, with a firmly right-leaning military dictatorship, and my understanding was that they'd had good relations with Italy (although I guess whatever event caused Italy to have an enclave in Mozambique could likely butterfly that away). I suspect they'd need more incentive than a tiny piece of land in Africa to throw in with the Allies.

Although, now I'm thinking about the effects such a realignment would have on WWII itself--would Franco get spooked being surrounded by Allied nations and throw in his lot with the Axis? I don't know nearly enough about Spain or Portugal to have any clue if that's a realistic possibility or not.
 
i thought there was a little fascist enclave in Africa after world war II- it was called "South Africa"
 

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i thought there was a little fascist enclave in Africa after world war II- it was called "South Africa"

No.
They had very different ideologies. Apartheid=/=Fascism, just as Capitalism=/=Fascism.
If you're trying to be serious about this discussion, you've failed, if you're trying to be pithy about it, well, we've got much higher standards here.
 
When I first saw this, my first thought was of a German East Africa style enclave, a colony of Italy or Vichy France that the allies just couldn't crack :(
A man can dream though, a man can dream :p

No.
They had very different ideologies. Apartheid=/=Fascism, just as Capitalism=/=Fascism.
If you're trying to be serious about this discussion, you've failed, if you're trying to be pithy about it, well, we've got much higher standards here.

Dude, chill.
It's quite easy to confuse a right-wing government that isn't beyond the use of violence and isn't keeping up with democracy 100% with Fascism.
 
South Africa very easily could have become a fascist enclave, and actually did become, in many ways, proto-fascistic IOTL, what with Apartheid and all.
 
Britain (or SA) takes out the enclave, during the war.

If not, Britain (or SA), or Italy with Britain's help takes out the enclave, after the war.

The only way to protect it, would be to surround it completely with neutral territory, and no coastline... but how it come to be in the first place?
 
South Africa very easily could have become a fascist enclave, and actually did become, in many ways, proto-fascistic IOTL, what with Apartheid and all.

The actual fascist Afrikaners did not have much support OTL, and even if they managed to get to power they have to realize one particular truth for their problems:

Sooner or later, it doesn't matter when, but eventually, Britain will drop by and kick the ever-loving shit out of South Africa if they back the Nazis.

Edit: Also, someone's going to opportunistically take over if there's anything like that during WWII, Salazar stayed neutral because Portugal had nothing significant to gain and everything to lose from entering WWII on either side, what do they get from having their colonies be on the frontlines of the war in Africa? From having their commerce constantly harassed and destroyed by their enemies?

But if someone's got a neat little slice of Africa, preferably next to or close to one of Portugal's territories, this might change things, albeit probably late in the war when the Axis defeat was all but assured.
 
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