A Lancastrian Castile?

Well, that might help eliminate Iberian inbreeding by halting the Aragon-Castile-Portugal-(sometimes Navarre) shuffle

Aha agreed, also means we could potentially see a Margaret or Anjou type figure emerging from Portugal.

Which leads me to ask, should Richard ii and Isabella have kids or should Henry of Lancaster still take the throne?
 
Aha agreed, also means we could potentially see a Margaret or Anjou type figure emerging from Portugal.

Which leads me to ask, should Richard ii and Isabella have kids or should Henry of Lancaster still take the throne?

Isabella was 10 when Richard II got deposed, so unless he reigns longer she isn't popping out kids. If you want Richard to have children either have Anne of Bohemia conceive during their marriage or let Richard reign longer to give Isabella a chance to mature and have pregnancies
 
Isabella was 10 when Richard II got deposed, so unless he reigns longer she isn't popping out kids. If you want Richard to have children either have Anne of Bohemia conceive during their marriage or let Richard reign longer to give Isabella a chance to mature and have pregnancies
Hmm this is true, would a continued Ricardian regime be more interesting than a Lancastrian one?
 
If Richard II lives long enough then Mortimer comes of age to be useful to replace Richard if needed. Barring any changes to his policies I think Richard is on borrowed time.
 
If Richard II lives long enough then Mortimer comes of age to be useful to replace Richard if needed. Barring any changes to his policies I think Richard is on borrowed time.

Hmm this is true, would him having a son be preferred, or him being replaced by another?
 
Or if people want a direct Plantagenet, Edward of Norwich, 2nd Duke of York.
Interesting why would they go for Norwich over Bolingbroke?
They wouldn't. Even if Bolingbroke was somehow excluded (his attainder OTL technically only affected his father's inheritance not his place in the succession) his ATL Castile halfbrothers come before York, there not being a bar on foreign inheritance.
The issue as in OTL is whether Mortimer's mother represented her father's place in the succession as if she was male and thus placing her line above those of Lancaster and York.
 
They wouldn't. Even if Bolingbroke was somehow excluded (his attainder OTL technically only affected his father's inheritance not his place in the succession) his ATL Castile halfbrothers come before York, there not being a bar on foreign inheritance.
The issue as in OTL is whether Mortimer's mother represented her father's place in the succession as if she was male and thus placing her line above those of Lancaster and York.
This is very true, and something I think Richard might want resolved, especially if roger Mortimer doesn’t die
 
This is very true, and something I think Richard might want resolved, especially if roger Mortimer doesn’t die

Maybe you can resolve the fighting by having Isabel of York (granddaughter of Mortimer and sister of Richard, Duke of York) marry a son of Richard II and placate him by saying here, you have descendants with a specific place in the line of succession?
 
Maybe you can resolve the fighting by having Isabel of York (granddaughter of Mortimer and sister of Richard, Duke of York) marry a son of Richard II and placate him by saying here, you have descendants with a specific place in the line of succession?
Oh that could be interesting, Mortimer died in Ireland, so if he avoids that that could be something. Though I’ve always been tempted by having Richard having a son aha. So many choices
 
If Henry of Bolingbroke does take the throne could he marry Henry of Monmouth to Anne Mortimer?

Similarly if Roger Mortimer took the throne could he marry his son Edmund to bolingbrokes daughter Blanche?
 
If Henry of Bolingbroke does take the throne could he marry Henry of Monmouth to Anne Mortimer?

Similarly if Roger Mortimer took the throne could he marry his son Edmund to bolingbrokes daughter Blanche?

An interesting idea is that Anne Mortimer IOTL died before Henry V's marriage to Catherine of Valois. Maybe ITTL Anne marries Henry but is dead by 1420 leaving him free for Catherine of Valois. It might be more palatable that the future French King (Catherine and Henry's son) is not synonymous with the future King of England (a child of Henry and Anne)?
 
An interesting idea is that Anne Mortimer IOTL died before Henry V's marriage to Catherine of Valois. Maybe ITTL Anne marries Henry but is dead by 1420 leaving him free for Catherine of Valois. It might be more palatable that the future French King (Catherine and Henry's son) is not synonymous with the future King of England (a child of Henry and Anne)?
Hmm interesting. Though of course we could see Henry and Anne’s son married to Catherine?
 
Hmm interesting. Though of course we could see Henry and Anne’s son married to Catherine?
Thinking on this I agree.

So Henry married to Anne Mortimer their son Henry born in 1409, Anne dying perhaps two years later.

Henry V then marrying Catherine of Valois thus dividing the realms.

And if one goes down the Richard route, him having a son with Anne of Bohemia and said son marrying Isabelle of Valois would Ben great.
 
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