Would that happen? Considering the way marriages were going for France at this timeWhat about Charles VI of France marrying Elizabeth of Lancaster?
At least we can have peace Henry IV as duke of Aquitaine, Elizabeth as Queen of France, Philippa as Countess of Bragança and John and Beatrice as King of Portugal and Castile.Would that happen? Considering the way marriages were going for France at this time
Hmm that could be quite interesting, would there be a succession war in Portugal, or would John of Aviz simply recognise John and Beatrice as ruling both?At least we can have peace Henry IV as duke of Aquitaine, Elizabeth as Queen of France, Philippa as Countess of Bragança and John and Beatrice as King of Portugal and Castile.
Have John marry Philippa in exchange of renouncing the throne of Portugal.Hmm that could be quite interesting, would there be a succession war in Portugal, or would John of Aviz simply recognise John and Beatrice as ruling both?
I can see that, would gaunt see it as worthwhile?Have John marry Philippa in exchange of renouncing the throne of Portugal.
Debatable. She's gone from being a Heiress, to a simple Princess with no claim.I can see that, would gaunt see it as worthwhile?
As in Philippa, or John of Aviz himself?Debatable. She's gone from being a Heiress, to a simple Princess with no claim.
She may be used to further the Castillan-Portugese Alliance though.
If John (II) of Castille, son of John of Gaunt, marries Phillipa.As in Philippa, or John of Aviz himself?
Don’t think he’d be marrying his sister though... ahaIf John (II) of Castille, son of John of Gaunt, marries Phillipa.
He meant beatrice.If John (II) of Castille, son of John of Gaunt, marries Phillipa.
He meant beatrice.
I think Philippa could marry the King of Navarre instead..
There is another son, the Duke of Evreux who can marry Philippa.Hmm that'd be difficult as Charles III was married to Eleanor of Castile in 1375
One issue with this is that Elizabeth of Lancaster was married at 17 to the 8-year-old Earl of Pembroke, and the wedding was only annulled when she got knocked up by Richard II's half-brother. Unless this butterflies away Elizabeth's unplanned pregnancy, she likely will be considered "used goods" for France.What about Charles VI of France marrying Elizabeth of Lancaster?
There is another son, the Duke of Evreux who can marry Philippa.
One issue with this is that Elizabeth of Lancaster was married at 17 to the 8-year-old Earl of Pembroke, and the wedding was only annulled when she got knocked up by Richard II's half-brother. Unless this butterflies away Elizabeth's unplanned pregnancy, she likely will be considered "used goods" for France.
Also here's a potential kid list for John of Lancaster and Beatriz
Here we have an heir and a spare for Castile and a daughter to be married off (probably to Portugal or Aragon).
- John (1391)
- Constance (1393)
- Peter (1395)
- Ferdinand (1399)
But the marriage with the Duke of Pembroke would be butterflied by a survival of the son of John of Gaunt.One issue with this is that Elizabeth of Lancaster was married at 17 to the 8-year-old Earl of Pembroke, and the wedding was only annulled when she got knocked up by Richard II's half-brother. Unless this butterflies away Elizabeth's unplanned pregnancy, she likely will be considered "used goods" for France.
Also here's a potential kid list for John of Lancaster and Beatriz
Here we have an heir and a spare for Castile and a daughter to be married off (probably to Portugal or Aragon).
- John (1391)
- Constance (1393)
- Peter (1395)
- Ferdinand (1399)
But the marriage with the Duke of Pembroke would be butterflied by a survival of the son of John of Gaunt.
An appropriate marriage for the daughter of a now King?
That looks good, I can see John and Beatriz getting on reasonably well, with John perhaps pushing on ahead with some reforms, and perhaps pushing for a war against France.
Peter to Margaret of burgundy and Ferdinand to isabella of LorraineSo Constance likely marries the future Alfonso V (uncle to Ferdinand II, meaning that line may never get the throne), but who marries Peter and Ferdinand. Obviously, this depends on whether Ferdinand inherits Portugal or not, but barring both boys marrying into Aragon or Navarre or daughters of the OTL winners of the Castile and Portugal sweepstakes, we might see them look outside Iberia.
Potential brides for Peter:
Brides for Ferdinand
- Margaret of Burgundy (1393)
- Mary of Burgundy (1393)
- Margaret of Baux (1394)- mother of Jacquetta Wydeville
- Margaret of Pardes (1395)
- Isabella of Navarre (1395)
- Michelle of Valois (1395)
- Maria of Aragon (1396)
Plus add for both any ATL women who either didn't exist or were boys IOTL. I stuck mainly to French, Burgundian, and Iberian candidates as I thought those would be the most likely to be picked.
- Isabella, Duchess of Lorraine (1400)- mother of Margaret of Anjou
- Catherine of Valois (1401)- mother of Henry VI and grandmother of Henry VII
- Eleanor of Aragon (1402)
- Anne of Burgundy (1404)
- Marie of Anjou (1404)