A Kinder, Gentler Nation Continued: A Collaborative Bush wins '92 TL:

Which Flag should be used for Iran?

  • Golfman76's

    Votes: 12 30.8%
  • TrumanJohnson's

    Votes: 16 41.0%
  • Konrad Sartorius'

    Votes: 11 28.2%

  • Total voters
    39
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November 12, 1996: Russian Communist leader Gennady Zyuganov was killed by Russian National Unity forces

December 1, 1996: Snap Presidential Elections in Russia. Alexander Lebed won in this elections with 56,4%. Viktor Chernomyrdin took the second place.
 
August 18th, 1996: Ross Perot wins the Reform Party's nomination narrowly over former governor Jerry Brown, who attracted a strong draft campaign despite not even running. To unify the party, Perot chooses Brown as his running mate.



August 23, 1996: A new poll shows Richards leading just outside the margin of error, 42% to 38% for Dole, with Perot at 16%. It's the closest the race has been, and the media(and many Democrats) speculate that Brown's selection as VP could siphon off enough votes from Richards to make the race competitive.

October 4th, 1996: It is announced that Perot narrowly misses the threshold for entry into the first presidential debate, having only 14%. An angry Perot vows to take the case to court.
 
October 18th 1996- Donald Trump calls Ross Perot an "idiotic lunatic who's screwing up the election."

October 21st 1996- Bob Dole says that Ann Richards isn't Presidential because she acts more like a celebrity than a candidate. Richards responds, "Poor Bob Dull, he's a tired old fuddy-duddy who doesn't know how to have a good time."

October 23rd 1996- The Washington Post story about President Bush's role in Iran-Contra is revealed to be an elaborate hoax, after it gained little traction in the media due to the Presidential Election.

October 24th 1996- A suitcase washes up on a Nova Scotia beach. It is widely believed to be from the missing United Airlines Flight 56 that vanished in September. Scientists say it's extremely unlikely and a "one in a billion chance"

October 25th 1996- A judge rules against Ross Perot's "debate-gate" allegations.

October 28th 1996- In the last week of the Campaign, Bob Dole breaks his leg after falling off a stage in Dayton, Ohio.

October 30th 1996- Illinois Senate Candidate, Hillary Rodham, is photographed embracing an unknown woman outsider her house in Chicago. It appears on The front cover of the National Enquirer with the title, "Was Hillary Rodham rodded by this woman?" Rodded, which was a made-up word, quickly became a term to describe a closeted gay woman.
 
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November 4, 1996: Final pre-election polls show Ann Richards in the lead. A Gallup poll shows 49% Richards, 38% Dole and 12% Perot. Pundits predict a Richards victory, Democrats keeping Congress and low turnout. However a CNN poll shows 14% Perot, 42% Dole and 42% Richards, in a result contrasting with other polls.
 
I'll post election results shortly. Citing the board being updated for roughly a week, I think we should all wait to post after the results are up until the site's back up, just for suspense factor.
 
I'll post election results shortly. Citing the board being updated for roughly a week, I think we should wait until it's back up, just for suspense factor.

I didn't realize you were doing it. I'd like to do them. You can do them but I'd like to.:)

I'd prefer to post them today and then the new board can be the next President's term and onwards.
 
I didn't realize you were doing it. I'd like to do them. You can do them but I'd like to.:)

I'd prefer to post them today and then the new board can be the next President's term and onwards.

Well what I meant we shouldn't post anything dealing with events AFTER the election. I'll just post the results and you can do a write up, Pericles.
 
1996 Presidential Election

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Ann Richards (D-TX)/ Bill Bradley (D-NJ) - 437 EVS 45% PV
Bob Dole (R-KS)/ Jack Kemp (R-NY) - 90 EVS 32% PV
Ross Perot (RF-TX)/ Jerry Brown (RF-CA)- 11 EVS - 22% PV
 
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November 5, 1996: Democrats retain both houses of Congress. Republicans gained 3 Senate seats(same results as IOTL, but Landrieu lost). the Senate balance of power was 54 D-46 R. In the House Democrats gained 2 seats to get 278 seats in the House. This gave President Richards a strong mandate for her presidency.
 
Why would Dole get the nomination here over Quayle?
I can't speak for the other posters. As a collaborative TL, things just kind of happen. Dole won all the primaries. I actually would've pushed for Quayle since he's not as often used as a figure.

Quayle's often exaggerated habit of saying stupid shit and a dose of determinism in Dole's favor (it's 1996 ITTL) are probably playing a key role in the thinking of our writers.

If I retcon ITTL, I'll say that Bush didn't favor Quayle as an actual successor. and encouraged him to run for Governor of Indiana in 1996 instead.
 
I can't speak for the other posters. As a collaborative TL, things just kind of happen. Dole won all the primaries. I actually would've pushed for Quayle since he's not as often used as a figure.

Quayle's often exaggerated habit of saying stupid shit and a dose of determinism in Dole's favor (it's 1996 ITTL) are probably playing a key role in the thinking of our writers.

If I retcon ITTL, I'll say that Bush didn't favor Quayle as an actual successor. and encouraged him to run for Governor of Indiana in 1996 instead.

Yes. Quayle didn't have a good public image, and much of the establishment chose Dole, plus determinism and a bit of luck for Dole. Dole was able to win Iowa and New Hampshire with more establishment support and stronger organisation and swept to the nomination, compared to Quayle who didn't seem like a President to voters.
 
November 5, 1996: America has elected its first female President and after 16 years returned Democrats to the White House. With a 13-point margin of victory, over 400 EVs and solid majorities in both houses of Congress the new President has a mandate to lead America into the new millennium. Richards vowed new leadership for the new millennium, and her 'New Democrat' moderate approach, refining Bill Clinton's failed 1992 bid, managed to land her the presidency. The Richards/Bradley ticket stayed firmly in the center, though they also promised healthcare reform. The Dole campaign's best chance was to hug President Bush, who has returned to popularity with a good economy. But instead Dole distanced himself from the President, and his muddled campaign led to voters failing to get a clear sense of Bob Dole and allowing the idea that he was a tired dinosaur of the past to succeed. Ross Perot's bid, with Jerry Brown as his running mate, was even more successful than in 1992. Wooing disaffected liberals and conservatives, Perot got a stellar 22% and even electoral votes. Dole and Republicans are already blaming Perot for their defeat, with his running mate Jack Kemp saying to reporters "Ann Richards didn't get a majority. We lost because Ross Perot took our votes. He took conservatives from us and gave Richards the presidency." But given the extent of Richards's landslide that's hard to believe. What is clear is what Richards said in her victory speech "This is a new dawn for America, and the times are changing. The new era is dawning, the new millennium!" That is true, for good or for bad.
 
November 5, 1996: America has elected its first female President and after 16 years returned Democrats to the White House. With a 13-point margin of victory, over 400 EVs and solid majorities in both houses of Congress the new President has a mandate to lead America into the new millennium. Richards vowed new leadership for the new millennium, and her 'New Democrat' moderate approach, refining Bill Clinton's failed 1992 bid, managed to land her the presidency. The Richards/Bradley ticket stayed firmly in the center, though they also promised healthcare reform. The Dole campaign's best chance was to hug President Bush, who has returned to popularity with a good economy. But instead Dole distanced himself from the President, and his muddled campaign led to voters failing to get a clear sense of Bob Dole and allowing the idea that he was a tired dinosaur of the past to succeed. Ross Perot's bid, with Jerry Brown as his running mate, was even more successful than in 1992. Wooing disaffected liberals and conservatives, Perot got a stellar 22% and even electoral votes. Dole and Republicans are already blaming Perot for their defeat, with his running mate Jack Kemp saying to reporters "Ann Richards didn't get a majority. We lost because Ross Perot took our votes. He took conservatives from us and gave Richards the presidency." But given the extent of Richards's landslide that's hard to believe. What is clear is what Richards said in her victory speech "This is a new dawn for America, and the times are changing. The new era is dawning, the new millennium!" That is true, for good or for bad.

EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!!! :D
 
Thank you.:) When the new board is born we'll go into Richards's term. Anyone have any ideas or predictions for it?
Richards, IMHO, will get re elected in 2000 against a more seasoned Dan Quayle or perhaps John McCain. She'll then have a tough (but not terrible) second term, and a Republican will narrowly win in 2004. The GOP will probably take back one or both houses of congress as early as 1998, but no later than 2002. I can't wait to get into Richard's Presidency and hope I'll have more time to get more involved with the thread once the new board is born. That's my prediction, but of course it doesn't have to go this way.
 
Well this'll be my last post on the old board. Ann Richards in ATL is LBJ, both are fairly older when they get elected, both have dominant type A Personalities, and both are from Texas. Bill Clinton is JFK in the sense that he died too young before he got to accomplish anything substantive.

Ann Richards as President will start were LBJ left off. In her first term, I'm going to have her repair, reform, and update the Great Society legislation and work to build a bridge with new legislation, perhaps Guarantees Minimum Income, and of course nearly universal healthcare. God, I wish I lived in this timeline.

I now leave you with a great quote from Ann Richards, "We're living in a whole new social and economic order with a whole new set of problems and challenges. Old assumptions and old programs don't work in this new society and the more we try to stretch them to make them fit, the more we will be seen as running away from what is reality."
 
Here's What we have So Far for late '92 and '93:

November 5th, 1992. President Bush Narrowly wins a Second Term:

On November 5th, 1992, thanks to third Party candidate Ross Perot entering the race in February and deciding to stay in the race amid controversy, and allegations of rape coming out against Democratic nominee Bill Clinton, an unpopular President George Bush won the 1992 election narrowly:

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President George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/ Vice President J. Danforth Quayle (R-IN): 275 EV/39.5 PV

Governor William J. "Bill" Clinton (D-AR)/ Senator Albert A. Gore Jr. (D-TN): 263 EV/38% PV

Businessman H. Ross Perot (I-TX)/ Ret. Vice Admiral James Stockdale (I-CA): 0 EV/ 21.8% PV

December 15th 1992: Lawrence Eagleburger is confirmed full time to the position of US Secretary of State, having served as Acting Secretary since August upon James Baker's resignation to become White House Chief of Staff.

January 16th 1993: Former White House Chief of Staff and Transportation Secretary Samuel Skinner, having been recalled to government service, is confirmed as HUD Secretary, replacing Jack Kemp who had resigned ahead of Bush's second inauguration, frustrated at the lack of policy achievements in HUD.


January 20, 1993: President Bush is inaugurated. He promises to "continue to steer America along the track of growth" and declares "America must not fall back from our success but build on it." The speech is well-received. However with a Democrat Congress and voter fatigue and very little political capital there are questions as to how successful Bush's second term can be.

January 21st 1993: New Bush cabinet appointees, Treasury Secretary Michael Boskin (replacing Nicholas Brady) and Interior Secretary James Hansen (replacing Manuel Lujan) are confirmed and sworn into office. Alongside the appointments of Eagleburger and Skinner, they make up the new members of the Bush Cabinet. All other Cabinet Secretaries remained in post.

February 1, 1993: The US unemployment rate falls to 7.0% President Bush's approval rating is at 50%

February 12, 1993: Nearly 20 House Republicans vow never to vote for a tax increase, even if its proposed by President Bush. One of these Republicans is Newt Gingrich.

February 18, 1993: 3 Iraqi men are arrested for plotting to assassinate the President.

February 19, 1993: The Iraqi government is linked to an attempt on the President's life. The US begins bombing Iraq in retaliation.

February 25, 1993: A draft budget bill from the White House is leaked. the draft shows the White House wants $150 billion in spending cuts, and no tax increases(in fact taxes are slightly cut). Congressional Democrats express disappointment with the budget, with Speaker Tom Foley saying "The administration needs to take serious responsibility for this country's dire fiscal state. It is unfair that the poor and ordinary Americans should exclusively suffer the burden of measures to cut the deficit."

March 12th 1993: A bomb explodes at Capitol South Metro Station in Washington D.C. 17 are killed, and more than 40 injured. There is severe damage to the station as well as moderate to light damage of the O'Neill House Office Building and the Cannon House Office Building.

March 13th, 1993: President Bush holds a Press Conference about the Attacks at Capitol South Metro Station:

"Good Morning. Barbara and I send our condolences to the families of the 17 people who tragically lost their lives in yesterday's attacks, and we pray for a speedy recovery for the 40 men and women who were injured in the attacks. I want to assure the American people that the United States government will do everything in its power to find who is responsible for these attacks, and when we find them, we will bring them to justice. Thank you."

March 19, 1993: Supreme Court Justice Byron White retired.

April 3, 1993: Bush nominated Roger Miner for the Supreme Court. Miner, a moderate to center-right judge is widely acclaimed and faces little opposition, though conservatives wished for a more conservative nominee.

April 3, 1993: President Bush makes speech on Bosnia crisis. Bush condemns "war crimes" and says "the international community shall not tolerate crimes against humanity." Bush calls on players in the region to make peace and declares "The United States and our allies are willing to do all that is necessary, including intervention, to ensure peace in Bosnia-Herzegovina."

April 11, 1993: Bush and Russian President Yeltsin met and discussed the development of the former Soviet Union. The two partners both described the meeting, held in the White House, as very productive and strengthened US-Russian relations. Issues discussed ranged from free market transition, border disputes, nuclear weapons and long-term relations. Diplomats have expressed hope the two countries can move beyond their emnity to build a strong relationship.

April 20, 1993: US intervention in Bosnia came closer as the Serbs rejected the UN peace proposal. Secretary of State James Baker declared "The United States is very disappointed in the refusal of the Serbs and other players in the Bosnia-Herzegovina to make serious moves for peace."

April 24, 1993: Russia has defended Serbia and reaffirmed their ties to the country.

April 27, 1993: The White House has released its plans for the budget. The administration wants $200 billion spending cuts, mainly to social spending, but no tax increases. Democrats were furious, while conservative Republicans were happy with the proposals, seeing it as a welcome shift to the right.

May 2, 1993: The House passed its own budget which increased income taxes from 31% to 37% and increased corporate tax to 36%. There were only $25 billion in spending cuts and $5 billion in 'stimulus'. The administration was furious, decrying "obstructionism" and "political posturing" from Congress.

May 5, 1993:
A new poll is released contrasting support for the two budget proposals. 54% of Americans support the administrations' budget plans, 34% supported Congress's plan and 10% were undecided. However Bush's approval rating had fallen to 44% and other poll results showed only 41% of Americans had 'great confidence' that the administration could 'seriously reduce the deficit' while 25% of Americans had 'no confidence' in that.

May 6, 1993:Congressional Republicans, congressional Democrats and the administration held a meeting on the budget to agree on a compromise. Democrats accept no major spending cuts, or at least wary of that, while Bush is wary of raising taxes again. Many analysts believe Bush will be forced to raise taxes just like in his first term.

May 8, 1993:
Doubts are expressed by many in Congress that the controversial NAFTA(North American Free Trade Agreement) can ever get passed. Secretary of State Baker said Congress will pass it.

May 10, 1993: NATO will begin intervention in Bosnia in 48 hours unless 'concrete steps' are 'immediately undertaken' to get peace. President Bush declared "America will lead the new world order and America will do what is necessary to defend human rights and the innocent. America will stand up for its values."

May 19, 1993: A bomb explodes during session of the Bundestag, destroying much of the building in Bonn and killing 139 of the Bundestag members, along with Helmut Kohl, Chancellor of Germany, his Minister of the Economy Günther Rexrodt and his Minister of Traffic, Matthias Wissmann, who was just six days in office...

May 20, 1993: A "responsibility claiming" letter by the RAF is sent to newspapers, most importantly the Hamburger Abendblatt and the FAZ. People are extremely sceptic due to the sophisticated nature of the bomb. Police continue to blaim the RAF, Commando Jan-Carl Raspe.

May 21st 1993: Hillary Rodham Clinton and Bill Clinton separate after months of allegations about his infidelity. Hillary Rodham moves back to her home state of Illinois with the couple's daughter, Chelsea.

May 21, 1993: An "expert in graphology", Prof. Dr. Karl Anton Pfeiffer of the Stuttgart university, expresses doubt about the authenticity of the RAF letter. He is promptly fired.

May 21, 1993: The Bundestag, not being incapable of decision, elects Hans-Dietrich Genscher (FDP) as the next chancellor after he announced that he "would love to come back into politics in order to help Germany in this dire times". He is the first chancellor of the FDP who is not "acting".

Late May/Early June 1993: Hans-Dietrich Genscher reshuffles the cabinet to reassure FDP/CDU equality. Most importantly, a hawkish Manfred Kanther becomes foreign minister and "vice chancellor".

May 21, 1993: A certain Armee der Gottesfurcht/Esercito della timore di Dio (Army of the Fear of God) also claims responsibility for the Bonn attack, claiming in a letter that "the sinful communists of Bonn have been attacked, and more attacks will follow until the true faith in the one and only god, represented by The infallible Pope, has been restored".

May 21, 1993: Pope John Paul II. strongly and in very clear words condemns such terrorist attacks in the name of Christianity or Catholicism, and clearly states that those people responsible for the attacks cannot be truly Catholic


May 22, 1993: Roger Miner is confirmed 95-2 by the US Senate and becomes a US Supreme Court Justice. This is Bush's final Supreme Court nomination.

June 6, 1993:
President Bush is forced to give into Congress on the budget. Democrats got tax increases in income tax from 31% to 37% and of capital gains tax to 36%, while Bush got $103 million in spending cuts, far more than what most Democrats wanted but less than his original proposal. Both liberals and conservatives were disappointed with the proposal but Congress is likely to pass it reluctantly.

June 22, 1993: The budget is passed.

September 25, 1993: The Bosnia war came to an end as a framework for peace is signed. This came after a NATO intervention bombing Serb positions. President Bush was and still is widely credited with successful leadership in Bosnia and in getting peace in the region.

October 1, 1993: President George Bush's approval rating is at 48%.

October 3rd, 1993. Battle of Mogadishu takes place, Mohamed Farrah Aidid and top aides captured: On October 3rd, 1993, the U.S. Joint Operations force, Task Force Ranger, participated in a mission to capture leaders of the Habr Gidr Clan, including its leader Mohamed Farrah Aidid, and the mission was a success. President Bush addressed the nation the next evening from the Oval Office. He congratulated the men and women that carried out this mission and also said that "with the capture of these men, we can soon restore order to Somalia and bring the Americans who are serving there home."

November 7, 1993: Bush reiterated his opposition to the Brady Bill which proposed increased gun control. Critics accused, and still accuse, the President of being a puppet of the gun lobby.

November 12, 1993: The Brady Bill failed to pass the House, getting only 203 votes.

November 16, 1993: President Bush rules out amending NAFTA to appease Democrats wary of the agreement.

November 17, 1993:The House vote on NAFTA is tied, 217-217 for and opposed.

November 18, 1993: NAFTA passes the House 221-213. The agreement is opposed by many liberals as undermining environmental protections and many, including Ross Peror, believe it is dangerous to the economy and will lead to 'a giant sucking sound' of jobs going south to Mexico.

November 19th 1993: News breaks that Former Governor of Arkansas and 1992 Democratic nominee for President, Bill Clinton is rushed into the University Hospital of Arkansas (UAMS), in Little Rock, Arkansas, it is not yet known why this is.

November 21st, 1993: After days of trying to supress the news, family lawyer, informs a crown of reporters outside the UAMS, that 40th and 42nd Governor of Arkansas and 50th Attorney General of Arkansas, William Jefferson "Bill" Clinton has died aged 47 from cocaine abuse and overdose. The family lawyer, then goes on to say that, Ms Hillary Rodham and their daughter, Chelsea, have been informed and would like to take this time to grief privately.

November 22nd, 1993: President George H. W. Bush delivers a statement on the death of his former presidential rival, Bill Clinton, mourning his loss as a "talented politician" and urging other Americans not to fall down the same path of drug addiction Clinton did, and offers kind words to the Clinton family.

November 23, 1993: The US Senate passes NAFTA by the narrowest margin possible, averting a filibuster, The historic free trade agreement is passed and is a crowning accomplishment(or failure) of the Bush presidency.
 
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