A Jewish Holy Order?

You just ain't right......:) Weren't Christians wussies at the start though?

Yes, originally Christians were strict pacifists that even refused to visit the amphitheaters to see gladiators slay wild animals and eachother.

This attitude changed when the Church became an imperial institution.
 
Yes, originally Christians were strict pacifists that even refused to visit the amphitheaters to see gladiators slay wild animals and eachother.

This attitude changed when the Church became an imperial institution.

And they refused to fight the wild animals, other than ordinary criminals condemned to fight for their life.

And even if one doesn't like Christians, they later abolished gladiator games.
 

Keenir

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I think that the best way to geth something like this would be to somehow involve the Khazars.

*nods* and, given that the Khazars launched a crusade to seize the Holy Land, maybe the Khazar crusaders are the foundation of this Holy militant Order.
 
*nods* and, given that the Khazars launched a crusade to seize the Holy Land, maybe the Khazar crusaders are the foundation of this Holy militant Order.

The Khazars would be the most likely to do such a thing, since pretty much any Jewish community
under Christian or Muslim rule would in almost any case be forbidden to bear weapons and/or form militant orders...

The only other independant Jewish community that could form such a holy militant order are the Beta Israel,
a.k.a. the falasha's, who remained independant until about the late Medieval Ages, if I recall correctly.

And the falasha's don't have that much chance of reaching the Holy Land all by themselves,
meaning that the Khazars are still the best bet.
 
A good name would be the B'nei Moshe or the Children of Moses.

In a Jewish legend, the B'nei Moshe were a race of supermen who came to Jews in their time of need. They lived on an island in a river (The River Sambation) that raged all six days of the week, but was quiet on Shabbat. However, since Jews are not allowed to travel on Shabbat, they were stuck and never able to leave.

However, they did sometimes break the law if there was a greater need.

This could be the inspiration for a Jewish Holy Order as the Children of Moshe were supposed to be very powerful and strong.
 
To clear this up who were Khazars? If they're the nomadic steppes men I'm thinking could they seize the Holy Land and could they hold it? What's the time frame for this?
 
Maybe they could seek to retake the Holy Land, but work gradually to get there. Perhaps, like some of the Christian orders, they take over some Greek islands first?
 
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