A Jagiellon Hegemony

1.Poland will be completely reunited Politically under the Jagellonians, this will have obvious consequence of it, so if it fragments in the age of nationalisms Poland will be whole again and have a Oder-Neisse like border with little or no need of expulsion of Germans, I think the Czechs could get a bit Polonized and the Polonization of the Slovaks is quite likely to happen because of the Poles in North Slovakia.
2.Hungarians will be surrounded by Slavs.

Actually, czech language had strong influence to polish in 15th and 16th century. Not vice versa. Czech language was also broadly used by lesser nobility and burghers in Upper Hungary and Upper Silesia. So I think that at least before Kochanowski, there would be rather czechization of Poles.
 
Actually, czech language had strong influence to polish in 15th and 16th century. Not vice versa. Czech language was also broadly used by lesser nobility and burghers in Upper Hungary and Upper Silesia. So I think that at least before Kochanowski, there would be rather czechization of Poles.
That is possible, Krakovian Polish, the dialect of Krakow was once closer to Czech before the Polish language had it's own literary language, Southern Polish dialects including the Silesian ones kinda look odd because Ukrainian and Czech have similar Phonologies when they could have the same Phonology, I think it is likely that the Southern Polish dialects would pick up the Phonology of Czech and Ukrainian and Mazurzenie will become common had Polish been standardized later, Northern Silesia and Mazovia were the areas where Mazurzenie was common.
 
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With the language of administration being slavic the refugees that settled in western hungary will not have an incetive to assimilate and there will be unbroken slavic continuum from the Baltic to the Adriatic. Under such circumstances Hungarian could become either extinct or reduced to Basque or Gaelic levels.
 
Now this is quite an original PoD.

A couple thoughts:

1) This union sticking together wouldn't be any more unlikely than the Hapsburg realms of OTL. The eastern Hapsburgs held dominion over Flanders, Wallonia, bits of Italy, Austria, Bohemia, Silesia, Slovakia, Transylvania, Hungary, Croatia, Bosnia, Dalmatia, Southern Poland and Western Ukraine. Most of those at the same time. The Eastern Hapsburg realms more geographically and culturally diverse than these alt-Jagiellon kingdoms. Not to say that this personal union would be easy to keep together, but it is possible.

2) Most European kingdoms had problems with nobles trying to erode royal authority, and most of them had times when the nobles were on the ascendant. My reading of Polish history is that the crown was not so much inconvenienced by the golden liberty, it was more that the crown lacked it's own secure power base, and thus had to honour the laws limiting their power more carefully than the king of France or of England, say.

The Hungarian Jagiellons would have more legitimacy than the post Jagiellon kings of Poland and they would have more power bases with which to draw strength to oppose the magnates than, say, the electors of Saxony could.

3) No Polish Vasa dynasty would be a great thing for Poland. The attempt to unify the crowns of Poland and Sweden by the Polish Vasas brought only trouble.

4) I would be interested what the relationship between Jagiellon central europe and Muscovy would be like... And what the Muscovy-Ottoman relationship would be like. My bet is that Russian-Ottoman relations will be better in this timeline, since both will consider the Jagiellons to be the greater threat.

Certainly I'd love to see a TL about how this works out. Even if the union of crowns falls apart, it's going to change Europe in interesting ways.

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