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My 'chances for a 90's Godzilla movie that's actually decent' senses are acting up again...
It's probably a false alarm.
The 1990s had plenty of good Godzilla films:

Godzilla Vs. King Ghidorah - 1991
Godzilla Vs. Mother - 1992
Godzilla Vs. Mechagodzilla II - 1993
Godzilla Vs. SpaceGodzilla - 1994
Godzilla Vs. Destoroyah - 1995
Godzilla 2000: Millennium - 1999

Now if you talking about the 1998 TriStar Godzilla I think the it could have done better if the Godzilla name tacked to it (and personally I like it in that light.)
 
An American-Japanese collaboration could be what's needed to make the American Godzilla film better than what audiences got. Especially if it's an MGM-Toho production because that means that MGM studios could get a Godzilla ride.

Fun Fact: Siskel and Ebert were less annoyed by the thinly-veiled parodies of themselves in the OTL 98 Godzilla film than they were by the fact that said parodies were not killed in the film.
 
The Pits
The Ironically Troubled Production of The Money Pit (1986)
People Magazine, August, 1996


Hollywood history is full of infamously troubled productions, from Apocalypse Now to Heaven’s Gate to Ishtar. And among these ignoble productions was 1986’s The Money Pit, starring Kelsey Grammer and (eventually) Dianne Keaton. In a case of life imitating art, a story about two well-meaning people attempting to restore an old house with everything going expensively wrong became a production by a well-meaning creative team where everything went expensively wrong.

I guess they should have seen it coming?

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Not exactly this…

The troubled production of The Money Pit is well known, but the extent of troubles has long been opaque thanks to various legal and contractual agreements. The underlying story was finally revealed with David Giler’s recent HBO documentary The Pits, which outlines the challenges and disasters of the production. Now, ten years later, the full extent of the troubled production can finally be examined.

The Money Pit began life as a fun comedy screenplay by veteran writer David Giler based upon some frustrations he’d experienced as a homeowner. He initially took it to Amblin Entertainment in late 1984, but they had just spent a lot of their liquid funds playing the White Knight for Disney and thus regrettably turned down the script, though Spielberg put in a good word for them at Paramount[1]. Giler’s own Brandywine Productions thus partnered with Paramount to produce the film, and all got to a good start when Shelley Long of Cheers fame was tapped to play the girlfriend Anna. Veteran director Ted Kotcheff was brought on board to direct and Long’s co-star Kelsey Grammer was placed in the lead, Kotcheff hoping to take advantage of the two actor’s acrimonious screen chemistry. A modest budget of $11 million was assigned to the project.

Right from the start there were troubles. Based on Grammer’s accent, and his and Long’s associations to Boston via Cheers, they decided to move the film’s location to New England. The scouting team was unable to find a house in that region or of that regional style that met the three requirements of 1) accepted by Giler, 2) accepted by Kotcheff, and 3) with homeowners willing to have their property systematically destroyed and rebuilt during filming. With pressure mounting on Giler and Kotcheff to start principal filming on schedule, they made the fateful decision to build a custom set. The new house set cost hundreds of thousands to build, and hundreds of thousands more to establish the required trap doors and breakaway effects. An accident on the set that injured a crewman delayed production. A later fire totaled the set, requiring it to be rebuilt from scratch.

Completing the set was only the beginnings of the troubles. Kelsey and Long notoriously did not get along. Though both professional actors, their dislike for each other, amplified by the stress of working around the perilous fall-away sets, began to carry over into the crew, with factions building up on either the Grammer or Long side. After nearly falling in with the bathtub in a breakaway floor effect, Grammer and Kotcheff got into a loud verbal confrontation that caused filming to be suspended for the day. But mostly the arguments were between Grammer and Long, who began to refuse to work with each other, resulting in the need to use shot/counter-shot and stand-ins for their scenes together and thus double the filming time.

Then the production crew got notice that Long was taking an extended leave of absence. She was pregnant and had started showing symptoms associated with preeclampsia and so her Obstetrician ordered her to take some weeks off for rest. She blamed the stress on the set. By the time she returned she was visibly pregnant, and the shot workarounds to conceal the baby bump became a challenge for Kotcheff, who was already in an increasingly foul mood due to artistic interference from Paramount and pushback from Grammer. Soon Long was on maternity leave and gave birth to a healthy daughter, but she then requested another 4 months off until the baby was on solid foods. The studio demanded that she return after 6 weeks and threatened to sue her for breach of contract, but her lawyer threatened countersuit based upon “reckless endangerment and undue stress” that “put risk on her child”. The two parties agreed to terminate the contract with no penalties.

By this point the production was $6 million over budget and only about 53% in the can. The studio brought in Diane Keaton to replace Long, which required massive reshoots and resulted in a few remaining scenes with Long’s limbs or back in the frame, resulting in the common Hollywood term “The Other Anne” for when two actors have alternately filled the same role in the same film[2]. Keaton and Grammer got along, but Giler later complained that their dynamic lacked that “je ne se quois” of the Grammer-Long relationship.

And then Kotcheff quit. Sick and tired of meddling by Paramount, he stormed off of the set and Giler himself, who had only one film direction credit to his name, agreed to fill in. Kotcheff hid his involvement behind the classic go-to pseudonym for artists who disown their own work, Alan Smithee. The reshoots continued until December of 1985, now $10 million over budget and months behind schedule. But any relief came quickly to an end as an editing war broke out in post between editor Jacqueline Cambas, writer-producer tuned director David Giler, and Paramount studios, with three competing cuts circulating the cutting room at any given time. The studio ultimately ran Giler out of the editing room and demanded more reshoots using a studio director, to the cost of another $8 million.

But just as the final cut was ready, several of the Paramount executives associated with the production left for Hollywood Pictures at the invitation of Michael Eisner. The new executives, meanwhile, completely disowned the picture, which was released in September of 1986 to poor reviews (Siskel and Ebert called it “disjointed” and “joyless”). By this point the production troubles had become the talk of the papers (People ran a story in the summer of ’85!) and, combined with the poor reviews and lack of meaningful promotion by Paramount, resulted in a sad $7.2 million showing at the box office against the $28 million final production cost.

Kotcheff would escape the fallout and go on to direct other things and Giler would continue to write for film and television, but never directed another feature. Long and Keaton would escape unharmed, Long returning to television and then going on to star in Outrageous Fortune from Hollywood Pictures, and Keaton continuing her long working relationship with Woody Allen. Grammer, on the other hand, would see his film career stalled for years, not really returning to the big screen until recently.

And yet the details in this article are just the tip of the iceberg. The rest of this story, as relayed in excruciating detail in The Pits, is so much more dramatic.

“A disaster like this comes along only once in a career,” said Giler in the documentary’s opening. “You have to see it to believe it.”

The Pits airs on HBO on Saturday, July 26th, at 8 pm ET/MT and 7 pm CT/PT.



[1] In our timeline Amblin took on the picture, resulting in the moderately successful comedy starring Tom Hanks.

[2] We’d call it “The Other Marty” after Eric Stoltz in Back to the Future.
 
That sounds like a classic case of ‘how not to do it’ and will end up in the manual.

Should have got Henson Workshop in for the SFX on that set.

I take it Grammer returned to TV? Does this butterfly Frasier?

Is there a Director’s Cut many years down the line?
 
I take it Grammer returned to TV? Does this butterfly Frasier?

Is there a Director’s Cut many years down the line?
Yes, Grammer returns to TV and Frasier is such an obvious spinoff for Cheers that I don't see it going away. Had The Money Pit launched a film career for Grammer then Frasier would be in trouble.

I don't see much hope for a Director's Cut, and even had one appeared it would still be a mess. This film will be an orphan, but will ironically be far more famous ITTL because of the disastrous production than the largely forgotten successful Amblin film is in OTL.
 
Apparently, Shelley Long didn't get along with most of the cast from Cheers (she did get along with Ted Danson, to some extent)--with regards to Grammer, she buried the hatchet with him when she appeared on Frasier, IIRC...
 
The 1990s had plenty of good Godzilla films:
Well that depends on the Godzilla fan you talk to...

I think they're all good, personally.

Godzilla Vs. Mother - 1992
I'm not familiar with this one. Isn't that the one titled Godzilla vs. Jomama in the western world? /sarcasm_humour

On the subject of Godzilla, I think maybe we could see Steve Miner's Godzilla 3D script be made here:

But just as the final cut was ready, several of the Paramount executives associated with the production left for Hollywood Pictures at the invitation of Michael Eisner. The new executives, meanwhile, completely disowned the picture, which was released in September of 1986 to poor reviews (Siskel and Ebert called it “disjointed” and “joyless”). By this point the production troubles had become the talk of the papers (People ran a story in the summer of ’85!) and, combined with the poor reviews and lack of meaningful promotion by Paramount, resulted in a sad $7.2 million showing at the box office against the $28 million final production cost.
I can picture the reaction afterwards.
 
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Apparently, Shelley Long didn't get along with most of the cast from Cheers (she did get along with Ted Danson, to some extent)--with regards to Grammer, she buried the hatchet with him when she appeared on Frasier, IIRC...
The only one she got along with was Nicholas Colasanto, who played Coach (and died 2 1/2 years in). Ted Danson is very diplomatic and gentlemanly about it in retrospect but I suspect it was probably a case of him respecting her great talents as an actress whilst disliking her personally (not a rare thing amongst acclaimed performers). She and Grammer had a particular antipathy because he was a Johnny-come-lately and Long just didn't like the concept of his character at all (today we would call Long a hardcore Sam/Diane shipper, she was very invested in their romance and saw him as an unnecessary roadblock). Long left for three reasons: she was sick and tired of the writers pussyfooting around the idea of Sam and Diane getting together permanently; she didn't get along with anybody on-set; and (the reason everybody remembers) she had a decently-successful film career and thought she could transition to movies full-time. Outrageous Fortune grossed double its budget in early 1987. It probably seemed like a good idea at the time...
 
Well, co-stars not getting along on TV shows is nothing new; for instance, John Forsythe and Joan Collins didn't get along on the set of Dynasty--funnily enough, Collins did get along with her on-screen rival, Linda Evans...

And, on Married...With Children, Ed O'Neill (and, to a lesser extent, David Faustino) didn't get along with Amanda Bearse, which contributed to their characters' antipathy for each other--both O'Neill and Bearse appear to be friendly with the rest of the cast, though (Katey Sagal (the daughter of director Boris Sagal) was the best choice for Peggy, IMO--she was also Gene Simmons' (yes, that Gene Simmons) girlfriend for a while)...
 
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And, on Married...With Children, Ed O'Neill (and, to a lesser extent, David Faustino) didn't get along with Amanda Bearse, which contributed to their characters' antipathy for each other--
which resulted in the screen performance of their characters bitching at each other looked so much more natural, so a bit of a win for the show
 
Hmmm...that sounds like a fun Godzilla/Psycho crossover actually. Who directs? :winkytongue:
Toss up between Gus Vant Sant, Jan de Bont, or some obscure thriller director I've barely heard of before.

Plotline? Norman Bates in his mother personality falls off a cliff into the ocean, just as some clandestine workers dump toxic sludge into it, and he mutates into a giant owl-like* kaiju that emerges years later, using a warship as a giant knife. Godzilla shows up to battle him, and he's constantly switching between Norman and Mother personalities.

*Why owl? See the Parlour scene.
 
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Yeah, the American Godzilla was bad, IMO--if it had been a standalone monster movie (like Cloverfield) it would have been more successful...

And Godzilla running from the Apache helicopters?!? If that had been the Japanese Godzilla, he would have burst out laughing at the helicopters, and then destroyed them with his fire breath for hitting him...

Have someone like, say, Quentin Tarantino behind Godzilla (while he's not perfect, he seems to have more understanding of Japanese culture than Ronald Emmerich) and the film would have been closer to the Japanese version, IMO...
 
Have someone like, say, Quentin Tarantino behind Godzilla (while he's not perfect, he seems to have more understanding of Japanese culture than Ronald Emmerich) and the film would have been closer to the Japanese version, IMO...
He'd do it in suitmation, no less!

And Godzilla running from the Apache helicopters?!? If that had been the Japanese Godzilla, he would have burst out laughing at the helicopters, and then destroyed them with his fire breath for hitting him...
I've read it has to do with Americans thinking they're so superior to everything, nature included.
 
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I wonder how much like OTL Fraiser the show will be? Spinning off the character is a natural progression but the whole radio host thing?
 
Toss up between Gus Vant Sant, Jan de Bont, or some obscure thriller director I've barely heard of before.

Plotline? Norman Bates in his mother personality falls off a cliff into the ocean, just as some clandestine workers dump toxic sludge into it, and he mutates into a giant owl-like* kaiju that emerges years later, using a warship as a giant knife. Godzilla shows up to battle him, and he's constantly switching between Norman and Mother personalities.

*Why owl? See the Parlour scene.
Not gonna lie, this would work best as a parody. Maybe even by the MST3K folks. However, as a genuine crossover, it wouldn't hold much weight.

Sorry, but it's how the raisins roll.
 
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