A Greater Yankeedom

In a game of Victoria 2, I added the Maritime provinces and New York State minus NYC, to a seceded New England. Now I am wondering about the actual plausibilityWhat would be the affects of Yankee Puritans expanding earlier into Canada, especially New Brunswick and Nova Scotia. With greater settlement, would those areas have seceded with the U.S.? Could an earlier spread of Yankee colonists into New England necessitated a split from New York. How else could there have been a larger New England. Could the entire world be Yankee? Or at least ruled by them?
 
In a game of Victoria 2, I added the Maritime provinces and New York State minus NYC, to a seceded New England. Now I am wondering about the actual plausibilityWhat would be the affects of Yankee Puritans expanding earlier into Canada, especially New Brunswick and Nova Scotia. With greater settlement, would those areas have seceded with the U.S.? Could an earlier spread of Yankee colonists into New England necessitated a split from New York. How else could there have been a larger New England. Could the entire world be Yankee? Or at least ruled by them?

Well, I don't think it'd be likely to see anything on the scale of, say, "Puritan World" without some suspension of belief(no offense meant to Tony Jones, btw. Puritan World IS an interesting read), but I do have an idea.

What if, perhaps, the Dominion of New England had survived? Here's the Wiki article on it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_of_New_England
 
Perhaps if they gave it Nova Scotia, it would be easier for the dominion to survive if the Dutch areas were given their own colony, as the dominion had to many conflicting cultures to be effectively governed. Nova Scotia might sync up much better. If Andros would need to be replaced by a proper Puritan it would calm most of the tensions. Perhaps the world was going to far, but a Yankee dominated U.S would also be interesting.
 
I could certainly see a Maritime state as the 14th Colony in the American revolution if a few cards had played differently. It would have certain interesting effects on the United States - the North would be that much stronger much earlier, as would the US merchant culture.
 
In a game of Victoria 2, I added the Maritime provinces and New York State minus NYC, to a seceded New England. Now I am wondering about the actual plausibilityWhat would be the affects of Yankee Puritans expanding earlier into Canada, especially New Brunswick and Nova Scotia. With greater settlement, would those areas have seceded with the U.S.? Could an earlier spread of Yankee colonists into New England necessitated a split from New York. How else could there have been a larger New England. Could the entire world be Yankee? Or at least ruled by them?

From where I sit, in regards at least to the United States, who's to say it already hasn't been? :rolleyes:

In any event, if you're looking at an independent New England (maybe a New England that encompasses the Eastern Seaboard after a much more different English Civil War/Interregnum, leading them to be the major power along the Atlantic coast, way before the US becomes a thing), I think you might have the capacity to build a large merchant empire IF they manage to get along with the UK at sea (nothing I see being a problem for them, and that's assuming there would be a UK to compete with after the butterflies take effect), which should help keep supply routes open. With that in mind, perhaps they can go a-filibustering in places like Africa, et. al. like the rest of Europe once that period of expansionism comes along, opening the way for more access to vital minerals and resources (even just getting in on OTL America's goods would be a decent boon).

As for being a part of the USA, and influencing the rest of America? I can see them being relatively stronger compared to OTL (perhaps the Federalist Party can remain a more potent/longer-lasting influence on national politics past the 1810-20 timeframe); I repeat though, that the Northeast has long been the "metropole" of America in OTL, so I doubt you'd have THAT much more massive a jump in importance/influence without some rather early POD(s).
 
-Plymouth colony's original destination? ....Manhattan Island. Settle there and you butterfly New Netherland AND get North America's best port as Puritan.

-Anne Hutchinson in 1638 and New Haven from 1641-1654 tried multiple times to settle Delaware Bay and New Haven erected a trading post at Philadelphia. Do either of those two and you butterfly away New Sweden.

-New Havenites tried to settle New Jersey in 1661 but turned away by the New Netherlanders; when they settled in 1666 New Jersey had already been given to royalist proprieters two years before, whom would eventually sell NJ to the Quakers. With a New Plymouth at New York it'd be easier to settle by friendly territory off the bat and have New Jersey be Puritan-founded and controlled.

Boom. The entire original northern USA/northern colonies to the Mason-Dixon line is Yankee-founded and thus with New Englander cultural DNA, considered part of New England a la Massachusetts or Connecticut, etc. Have them settle where Quakers and their descendants did in the future USA alongside OTL Yankee westward settlement, and the entire northern United States is 'Greater New England...'
 
By the way, half of Nova Scotia's 1775 population was from New England - especially what settlement had been made in New Brunswick and Halifax and Yarmouth, if I remember right. As Thekingsguard said, American Maritimes is improbable, but definitely not impossible.
 
I could certainly see a Maritime state as the 14th Colony in the American revolution if a few cards had played differently. It would have certain interesting effects on the United States - the North would be that much stronger much earlier, as would the US merchant culture.

IIRC, there was a TL in which Jonathan Eddy(who I'm probably related to, btw) was able to seize Nova Scotia from the Brits.....I forget what it was called, but it was a pretty promising TL. :)
 
WI Britain keeps French Canada (captured 1629) instead of returning it in 1633?

That way there's little to stop settlers (most of them probably from NE) spreading up the St Lawrence to the Great lakes. I could imaging the Midwest getting some unreconstructed Cromwellians who didn't think Boston was far enough from London.

Could make quite a difference to the development of America, as there'll now be far more hinterland relative to seaboard.
 
I believe having the fort in Halifax and most of an British army sitting in it kept Nova Scotia British.
 
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