A Gentle Breeze - A Discussion

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: After 1900' started by ShockTrooper262, Dec 31, 2018.

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  1. ShockTrooper262 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah it is, though this one is slightly changed than OTLs.


    I think that could be blamed on the wind though.
     
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  2. WaterproofPotatoes #TeamMahan

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    I see Percy Scott's work is also being taken much more seriously by the RN... that could have some sweeping effects. Firstly, with more and better directors and firing tables, the RN will be able to hit more, especially with the technology trickling down to cruisers sooner. With gunnery being better, the need to increase the rate of fire at all costs is greatly diminished, which makes bad handling practices less likely to be tolerated, let alone encouraged, which in turn, means fewer self-detonating battlecruisers.
     
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  3. Threadmarks: Question.

    ShockTrooper262 Well-Known Member

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    I'm thinking about re-doing my ships lists in the morning from just numbers, to more of a Wiki style.


    Short Example: instead of listing out QE: 6, I'd do more so: Queen Elizabeth, Construction Date, Commission Date, Fate: x and probably detail any TL changes like armament or speed/weight.

    Longer Example:


    USS New Mexico

    Laid down: 14 August 1915

    Commissioned: 20 March 1918

    Armament: 8x 16/45 Mk I Gun

    Displacement: 32,000 tons

    Fate: Scraped 1946, 2x Guns Located at USN Naval Museum


    Of course, that's the only spoiler you're gonna see about fates, until they of course are talked about
     
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  4. WaterproofPotatoes #TeamMahan

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    I like that! Maybe include L x W x D dimensions to give a sense of scale, as well as reflect changes over OTL as well.
     
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  5. ShockTrooper262 Well-Known Member

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    Hm, you know what yeah I think that's what I'll do when I wake up sometime after 10' tomorrow.
     
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  6. Threadmarks: Royal Navy Capital Ships (1914-15)

    ShockTrooper262 Well-Known Member

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    This is the current of all Dreadnaught and Battlecruisers in the Royal Navy as of January 1915.

    Ships on order post January and of the 'large light cruiser' category are omitted, as well as pre-dreadnaughts.

    Those will be on a second list, and will be out asap.

    List Of Capital Ships Royal Navy
     
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  7. WaterproofPotatoes #TeamMahan

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    That's a tasty looking list there!

    No Revenge class I see- I'm very interested to see what gets built in their stead!
     
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    Oops, that's my bad. They are being built, though with a few modifications.
     
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  9. Threadmarks: US Army Equipment 1915

    ShockTrooper262 Well-Known Member

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    In order from rifle to MGs:

    M1914 Enfield, M1915 Air Enfield

    M1903 Springfield, M1903 Air-Service Springfield

    M1912 Lewis Gun, M1912A1 Lewis Gun, M1912A2 Aircraft Mounted Lewis Gun


    Source: Darth Panda for the base models of the M1914 and Lewis Gun. The rest were modified by ShockTrooper262
     
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  10. Threadmarks: Queen Elizabeth Class as Designed

    ShockTrooper262 Well-Known Member

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    10x 15" Guns

    12x 6" Guns

    8x 12mm Vickers Mount*

    Some unique gear omitted due to war time constraints, see Admiralty Report 192-12
     
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  11. Threadmarks: English Equipment December 1914-March 1915

    ShockTrooper262 Well-Known Member

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    From Rifles down:

    Lee-Enfield Mk III

    Pattern 1914 Enfield

    M1914 Lewis Gun

    .455 and .45 Webley Mk VI and V Revolvers

    Aircraft Mounted Lewis-Vickers Machine Gun

    Lewis-Vickers Light Weight Machine Gun


    *Special and MMG/HMGs omitted from list
     
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  12. Threadmarks: USN 1914 List

    ShockTrooper262 Well-Known Member

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    The naval lists are going to be updated over the next few days, but as of now the USN of 1914 and Feb 1915 are up on the same sheet as the RN.

    Again if anyone need the link: it's here
     
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  13. WaterproofPotatoes #TeamMahan

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    I see the USN has gotten into the battlecruiser game early TTL, rather than standardizing on a slow but hard-hitting and heavily protected battle line and relying on armoured cruisers for scouting.

    Their naming convention (states) and hull symbol (BC rather than CC) also indicate, if I have it right, that they are expected to work closely with the battle fleet.

    As for their construction, it looks like they're a hybrid between the priorities of British and Japanese battlecruisers (Speed > Firepower > Armour) and German battlecruisers (Speed > Armour > Firepower). They are much faster than the line BBs, but not quite as fast as contemporary British battlecruisers, and mount almost the same number of heavy guns. Based on the displacement, I'm guessing one less turret and slightly lower speed are traded for better but not battleship level armour?
     
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  14. ShockTrooper262 Well-Known Member

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    You are correct, though most of the battlecruisers are relatively new, and the doctrine hasn't really been tested.

    Some of the USN want to use them as ACR leaders, and the officers who have been watching the RN work, want to use them in the battleline as hard hitting but not as armored battleships.


    As of now 2 are patrolling the Pacific, as the Kongo's have perhaps scared some of the USN just a tiny bit. Though the Constitution Class are being designed, they may be redesigned as the USN figures out a role for them.
     
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