A fun map challenge: My first ever TL

Thande

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I know sometimes on here I run the newbs a bit ragged on things so let's take a step back a moment and remember that we were all a bit misinformed once.

To that end, this is a map I have recreated on a better basemap of my very first timeline, from 2003, which I have never posted
because it was embarrassing thanks to the British Education System meaning I knew very little about history. (Besides, I've lost the original files now).

Current year is 1962, IIRC. Anyone want to try making sense of any of it? :D

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Doesn't look impossible.

Trickiest bit is working out how Britain got the Crimea, Crete and Cyprus.

Presumably Britain was allies of the Caliphate in a war with Russia. The Caliphate must have needed allies desperately, so Britain gets Crimea out of conquest and the other two out of thanks. (maybe the Greeks on those islands were more trouble than they were worth anyway)
 
Well, that partition of Scotland is pretty whacky, because literally everything worth having is in Commonwealth hands, so they ought to have been able to squash "Caledonia" long ago; either it had a powerful external sponsor or something strange is going on.

And then of course there's the "Interum". Jagiellons on Crack from Hell?
 
Why is what appears to be a super-PLC called the hegemony of Lublin? and do they own Finland? and How did the Ottoman Empire become "the Caliphate"?

Any, unno, super-successful Ottomans and massive butterflies?
 
That Caucasus line is also unfortunate; it missed the mountains and wobbles through all the strategic centres. Like the Polish-Russian border, it would be a lot easier if we could call it a military front. Might that be permissable?
 

Thande

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That Caucasus line is also unfortunate; it missed the mountains and wobbles through all the strategic centres. Like the Polish-Russian border, it would be a lot easier if we could call it a military front. Might that be permissable?

Do what you must to rationalise ;)

(Incidentally, the major problem here is young me's lack of understanding of the butterfly effect; that Caliphate was originally supposed to descend from the Abbasids and the Turks are only a minority within it...)
 
I suppose the levellers could gain more control over the Parliament and make a political alliance with the Puritans post civil war. They establish a Republic over what they hood, but Cromwell dies and so there is no conquest and subjugation of Ireland. Some of the Stuarts flee to France.

France & Louis XIV expand into Alsace Lorraine and push into the Rhineland. England is wracked by internal conflict still, and Louis is successful. The Dutch monarch (not William of Orange) collaborates with Louis and they have a dynasic alliance where the UP gets Belgium. The line of Orange later dies out and is replaced by a Burgundian cadet branch (hence Burgundy).

The war of Spanish succession is fought between Spain, France and the Turks against Austria, Prussia and a medley of German states. Louis retains his borders and a Stuart puppet is placed on the Spanish throne. With French aid they invade Morocco and take over large parts of Algeria from the Barbary pirates who had been causing trouble to everyone.

France, however, is undergoing massive internal strife. THe costs accrued through all the wars eventually caused Louis XV in 1765 to call the Estates General. This mutates into the National Assembly which forms a constitutional monarchy. These, with aid from the English, consign Louis to Versailles and eventually, after his attempted escape, declare a Republic.

The Revolutionary War is fought between France, Britain and the Netherlands against Prussia, Austria, Spain and Russia. French forces invade Italy and sweep aside all opposition. Their forces penetrate Austria and are ithin 100 miles of Vienna when a peace is signed. Austria cedes all of Italy to France. The Republic forms the Republic of Venice adn the Union of the Two Sicilies, both of them puppet Republics.

The French Republic, like its British counterpart, is deeply religious, and so gives the Pope back much of his possessions, however the Swiss Guard is disbanded and replaced with a French bodyguard who double as enforcers of the Repubic's will.

The Turks, meanwhile, join with the monarchists and invade Italy yet are repulsed. The French cross into Grece and defeat the Turks there, taking Albania and giving it to Venice.

Britain, meanwhile, having rebuilt its navyenters the Mediterranean and takes Gibraltar from the Spanish and Crete & Syprus fro mhe Turks. From these bases they menace the revolt. In an effort to imcrease his popularity with the people the Sultan calls a Holy War against Persia, while quietly signign a peace treaty with Britain. He defeats Persia and establishs the Universal Caliphate, which claims to rule all Islam.

French armies overrun Prussia, and Frederick II sues for peace. He is forced to ally with France and together they declare war on Russia, which sustains a beating. Poland is revived around Lublin, and the Lublin Republic is founded that swiftly extends across eastern Europe. Finally the French withdraw and sign a peace with Russia.

Following the war, Prussia embarks upon a system of revolutionary changes. The monarch has less and less power and a Reichstag is established. The Austrian Empire, having sustained an enormous beating, is defeating in a humiliating war with Turkey and her Prussian allies. The Hapsburg Emperor abdicates and the German Empire is formed.

The Stuart kings of Spain, meanwhile, have returned to Scotland where they agitate for independence. A highlander uprising is successful in gainnig the highlands, yet the lowlands are securely British. The Stuarts also take Ireland outside of Dublin. There are two branches: the Catholic and Protestant. The Catholics rule Ireland and Spain, the Protestants (and junior branch) rule Scotland.

In the early 18th century Russia declares war on the Caliphate. The Turks cry to Brtain for aid, who along with Germany invade Russia. The Crimea is taken as is Finland, which is given to Lublin.

Lublin, meanwhile, has remolded itself as a confederacy dominated by the southern Polish indusrtial regions where most of its wealth lies. It was aoften called derisively the Lublin Hegemony.

In Scandanavia, meanwhile, the crowns of Denmark, Norway and Sweden are united and the Union of Kalmar is resurrected.


There we go, pretty ASB but whatever, it's fun :)
 
Tell me the POD and I'll make a good run on it.
Knowing newbies like myself, probably several, the first one being the Abbasids staying, then no Vasa revolt, the Commonwealth's continued existence, Crimea becoming a British protectorate, etc. Oh, also, Burgundy survives, but is reduced to the Netherlands.
 

mowque

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Many of us 'older' members should post our first stuff again. For humbleness's sake. I know mine was pretty bad.
 
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