A family of Catholic Churches

WI there were more Catholic churches, and the Pope were just primus inter pares
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On the map we can see the cannonical territories of the Catholic churches in Europe:
  1. The Italian Catholic Church, itself consisting of the Roman, the Aquilean and the Ambrosian Patriarchates. Is the oldest, and extends from Italy, Corsica, Istria and Slovenia to include also Greece, Cyprus and Turkey.
  2. The African Catholic church, seated in Tunis/Carthage is the second oldest church. It stretches from Morrocco to Lybia and includes Malta.
  3. The Spanish Catholic Church based in Toledo. Its autocephaly goes way back to Visigothic times. Has daughter churches across Latin America.
  4. French Catholic Church was organized from the western parts of the Frankish Church. Uts see is in Paris.Includes also Belgium.
  5. German Catholic Church is based in Mayence. To include Austria, South Tyrol, Pommerania and parts of East Prussia. Has been heavily infulenced by Luthers teachings, and is very divergent
  6. The Scandinavian Catholic Church, based in Lund, was also inspired by Luthers teachings.
  7. Baltic Catholic Church / Livonian Catholic Church includes also Finland, it can be dated well back to the Northern Crusades. Later, East Prussia was detatched to be included in the German one, but the Russian tsars wished all Russian territories to be administerd from Riga. Therefore, Finland and Lithuania were added.
  8. Polish Catholic Church, seated in Gnezdno
  9. Hungarian Catholic Church, seated in Esztergrom
  10. English Catholic Church, seated in Canterbury.
  11. Czechoslovak Catholic Church: See in Prague
  12. Caledonian Catholic Church, seated in St. Andrews, highly inspired by J. Knox.
  13. Irish Catholic church claims jurisdiction over the whole of Ireland.
  14. Croatian Catholic Church is a pretty modern revival. (Before split between Hungarian, Italian and Albanian) See in Split.
  15. Albanian Catholic Church to include most of the inner Balkans. See in Shkoder
  16. Dutch Catholic Church separated in the Dutch war of indepence. Of course, see in Utrecht.
  17. Swiss Catholic Church, inspired by Zwingli and Calvin. See in Zurich.
List of juristiction disputes:
  • Rousillon and North Navarra between Spainsh and French.
  • Belgium between French and Dutch
  • Ulster between Caledonian and Irish.
  • Luxemboug between Dutch and German
  • Alsace Lorraine between German and French. Upper Alsace claimed by Swiss as well.
  • Schleswig between German and Scandinavia.
  • South Tyrol : German and Italian.
  • Ticino: Italian and Swiss.
  • Savoy, Piedmont, Valle d Aosta, Nizza, Corsica: Italian and French.
  • Slovenia and Istria: Croatian and Italian.
  • Prekmurje and south Barania: Hungarian and croatian
  • Recovered territories of Poland: German and Polish. Mazuria claimed by Livonian as well
  • North Bukovina and Budjak: Polish and Hungarian
  • Slovakia: Hungarian and Czech
  • Kalinigrad: German and Livonian
  • Lithuania: Polish and Livonian
  • Finland, Karelia and Ingrias: Scandinavian and Livonian.
  • Crimea: Polish and Italian
  • South Dobrudia: Albanian and Hungarian
  • Ceuta and Melilla: Spanish and African.
In these cases, there would be overlapping jurisdictions, where people would belong to the parishes according to ethnicity. In overall, Swedes in Finland belong to the Scandinavian Catholic Churhc, while the overwhelming majorit of Finns belong to the Baltic Catholic Church.
 
So I take it in your world, Catholic just means non-Nestorian and non-miaphysite?chalcedonian basically? If so, what happened to Russia?
 
Also, some people might scream butterfly murder if you have Visigoths achieve autocephaly, yet still Luther, Calvin, Zwingli and Knox are born.
 
Thought you meant like the relationship of the Catholic Church with the churches in the Islamic world. Anyways, having a Pope in this sort of setting seems pretty bizarre. As does having so many seperate churches. It would be better to go with an Orthodox style of many Patriarchs, who have councils over matters of theology.
 
The Pope is Christ's representative on earth and the Catholic Church is the "universal" church-this allotment doesn't make sense with Catholic theology.

An Alt-Europe where orthodox doctrine in these matters holds sway though-this is completely possible.
 
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The sees would probably be drawn up to follow linguistic divides more than anything else (liturgical languages and all).
 
The Iberian Church would be split between Braga and Toledo, the main contenders to Primaz das Espanhas. You can also argue that OTL it's almost this, my country lobbied in the 18th Century for us to get a Patriarch, and managed to get it, so that we wouldn't be dependent on Rome to appoint Bishops.
 
Why didn't you put non-Roman rite Catholic churches already in existence on the map? I.E. the Chaldeans, Maronites, and Greek Catholics.
 
"Catholic" means "universal". You can't have more than one universal Church. Therefore, you can't have more than one Catholic Church. You might have a situation like the Western Schism of the fourteenth century, but in such a case you'd have two bodies both claiming to be the true Catholic Church, not multiple Catholic Churches with separate territorial jurisdictions as per the OP.
 
So I take it in your world, Catholic just means non-Nestorian and non-miaphysite?chalcedonian basically? If so, what happened to Russia?
Nope, Orthodox are still separate. Areas with Catholic minorities are placed under the jurisdiction of the neighbouring church which has the strongest minority there. (Roman church has only 6 bishops in Greece and 5 bishops in Turkey, as well as one for Cyprus and 1 for Crimea.
Demography is pretty much same as OTL
 
The sees would probably be drawn up to follow linguistic divides more than anything else (liturgical languages and all).

I reflected the historical development of Europe in the jurisdiction changes. Most notably, the Ottomans wabted a separate Catholic body in their Balkans(Albanian church), similarly Czechoslovak church was established in the interwar areas.

Knox, Zwingli and Luther would have rosen to high rank in their own churches, giving their legacy to many aspects of the liturgy and practices. However they remain united in doctrinal issues with Rome.
 
Why didn't you put non-Roman rite Catholic churches already in existence on the map? I.E. the Chaldeans, Maronites, and Greek Catholics.

Doubt Chaldeans would separate from Nestorians.

Maronites-yes, would cover the north Levant (Lebanon plus Syria).
Greek Catholic jurisdictions would overlap with already established jurisdictions, mainly in Ukraine e.g.

Dunno maybe just the Catholic church being disunited might just not try to "steal" believers from the Orthodox.
 
A different reformation could probably get a more looser Catholic Church where primates of each Kingdom have more power devolved to them. Sort of a Pope as President of a Primate Council type thing.
 
Then why does the African Catholic Church even exist still after Islam? Wouldn't it just have gotten folded into the Italian Church, or possibly the Spanish Church?

With the existence of a separate church, most bishops and scholars stayed, unlike in OTL when they emigrated to Italy (mostly).This would have proven crucial to its further existence.At the time of the Renaissance, there would be still pockets of Catholics in Ceuta, Algiers, Gafsa, Tunis ans Nefzaoua mountains.Not.to forget, Malta is also under the jurisdiction of this church. Later, the dwindling population was reinforced by Spanish but more importantly French and Italian colonists.
The structure of the African church wouldbe like:
  1. Patriarchate of Carthage
      1. Diocese of Laghwat
      2. Diocese of Capsa (Gafsa)
      3. Diocese of Sousse
    1. Archdiocese of Alger
      1. Diocese of Oran
      2. Diocese of Constantine
      3. Diocese of Hippo
    2. Archdiocese of Ceuta
      1. Diocese of Melilla
    3. Archdiocese of Tanger
      1. Diocese of Rabat
    4. Archdiocese of Tripoli
      1. Diocese of Misrata
      2. Diocese of Benghazi defunct
    5. Archdiocese of Malta
      1. Diocese of Gozo
Note that the number of Italian and French colonists who stayed post independence is twice as large as in OTL. In Tunisia the majority of Catholics are natives, while in Alger archdioce and in Tripoli and Misrata it is half to half. The rest of Libya and Algeria are mostly European colonists though
 
If North Africa still has so many indigenous Christians, wouldn't they use either Punic or African Romance languages (probably both), as with the many Aramaic-speaking Christians in the Levant? And by extension, we'd know many of these cities by the names they held in Antiquity, or a later African Romance variation. That's a nitpick, I suppose. What I do know is that there's a giant list of titular sees in North Africa, and at least a few would be kept as actual sees instead of making new ones.

And what happens when as in OTL, an Italian state (like the Italo-Normans) conquers portions of North Africa? Malta's an obvious issue of what could happen, since we're ignoring butterflies by your scenario. And in the post-colonial era, why would Italians and Frenchmen join the North African church instead of local branches of their own church, especially when the local church's language is an African Romance language (I've always liked two major African Romance languages, one based on Carthage's African Romance and the other based on some city in Roman Mauretania, probably Caesarea in Mauretania or Tingis). That doesn't make sense. Even if they're treated a step above Arab Muslims by European colonialists, I can't see Europeans treating them as well as they would a colonist of theirs. So why would these Pied-Noirs join the local church instead of the French (why not Gallic?) Church's local branches.

I'm also skeptical of this Diocese of Benghazi (wouldn't the diocese be named for a Cyrenaican city more important than Benghazi in Late Antiquity?), since Cyrenaica was historically under the Eastern Empire, had strong ties to Egypt, and also an indigenous Cyrenaican Greek populace who wouldn't have adopted Western Christianity and instead would have been under the Greek Patriarchate of Alexandria.
 
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