A failed Cathar Crusade?

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What would be the immediate ramifications if England, seeking to weaken France and secure Aquitaine, convinced Raymond VI, Count of Toulouse to continue to refuse to help the Papacy and French Crusaders against the Cathars, and also gave money and troops to the Cathars opposing the Pope?

Could this cause the Cathar/AlbigensianCrusade to fail? Obviously, in OTL, the immense manpower and resources of the French Crown made it impossible for the Cathars, and indeed, southern France, to succeed.

But southern France is quite rich, so with the help of the English, could they perhaps succeed in holding off the northern French soldiers?

And what if the Crown of Aragon decides to interfere, sending aid to the beleaguered Occitan Counts in Toulouse and the surrounding areas?
 
And what if the Crown of Aragon decides to interfere, sending aid to the beleaguered Occitan Counts in Toulouse and the surrounding areas?
Peter II of Aragon was one of the most ardent Catholics of the era, to the extent that (if I recall correctly) he wanted to will his kingdom to the pope upon his death. He was no friend of the Cathars, and was only invading for political reasons. Even if Peter was able too consolidate his hold upon Languedoc, that would not protect the Cathars. He would turn some sort of Inquisition on them eventually, though perhaps not as brutal as the French-imposed persecution.
 

Zioneer

Banned
Peter II of Aragon was one of the most ardent Catholics of the era, to the extent that (if I recall correctly) he wanted to will his kingdom to the pope upon his death. He was no friend of the Cathars, and was only invading for political reasons. Even if Peter was able too consolidate his hold upon Languedoc, that would not protect the Cathars. He would turn some sort of Inquisition on them eventually, though perhaps not as brutal as the French-imposed persecution.

Ah, right. I forgot that he was called Peter the Catholic. But what would happen if he faced English opposition?
 
It would benefit the Moors as Christendom would be directing its effort against the heretics within as opposed to the infidel without. That would prolong the existence of Granada and thus when Columbus goes around the European capitals for funding for his expedition Madrid would send him away with a flea in his eyes.

Consequently the Spanish will arrive in the America decades later. In the long run that is not going to do the Amerindians very much good because disease is still going to wipe out much of them. Still, it would would get some of them more life.
 
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