A divided Texas after a CSA victory

What do you think?


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I'm working on a CSA victory TL in which several plebiscites are held after the war which lead to new states being formed. I'd like to share my map of Texas and see what others think of it. The top tan colored state is the state of Houston which remains in the union. It's boarders are defined by the Brazos river, the 32nd parallel north, and the 100th meridian west. The bottom white colored state is what remains of Texas which stays with the CSA, and the grey state on the right is the state of Jacinto which remains in the CSA but breaks off from Texas after loosing Houston and defines its boarder by the rest of the Brazos River.
 
I'm working on a CSA victory TL in which several plebiscites are held after the war which lead to new states being formed. I'd like to share my map of Texas and see what others think of it. The top tan colored state is the state of Houston which remains in the union. It's boarders are defined by the Brazos river, the 32nd parallel north, and the 100th meridian west. The bottom white colored state is what remains of Texas which stays with the CSA, and the grey state on the right is the state of Jacinto which remains in the CSA but breaks off from Texas after loosing Houston and defines its boarder by the rest of the Brazos River.

Honestly, this was a favorite idea of mine even before I even started reading DoD......I say, go for it. :D
 
Sorry but somehow I didn't upload the map in my OP. Here it is.

Housten Jacinto Texas.jpg
 
Due to its shape I plan on having the state of Houston recognized in my TL as "The boot the Union keeps up the Confederacy's ass."


Also to those who dislike could you please explain why.
 
Thanks but what's DoD?

DoD has been a longtime favorite on these boards, as adunakhor stated. Basically, it's a unique-ish mix of the Draka, For Want of a Nail, and perhaps others. The *U.S. becomes a giant wanna-be empire stretching from Alaska to Ecuador by the 1930s, and New England breaks off shortly after Jefferson dies of a heart attack in 1809, over the Embargo Act.
It's a very interesting read, but does unfortunately have its share of flaws(though not nearly as many as TL-191, which is a fun read in of itself).

Anyway, this map does look okay but I think it could use some improvement. I was thinking that maybe Jacinto could instead have its boundaries mostly defined by the Colorado River and then perhaps a small part by the Brazos again and the 100th parallel. Do you have a non-JPEG version of this map, btw? I could show you what I mean. ;)
 
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At that time, Houston would basically be Comancheria, very few white settlers in that area... might end up with East and West *Sequoyah if the Indian Territory is to remain with the Union.

Edit: For the record I still voted like.
 
I like the idea of Texan plecibites, but those borders are kind of garrish - carve off rhe Texan panhandle and the Rio Grande river valley for better results.
 
I like the idea of Texan plecibites, but those borders are kind of garrish - carve off rhe Texan panhandle and the Rio Grande river valley for better results.

I can't agree with the latter. Truth is, I feel that Texas looks far better with the Rio Grande than using the Nueces in this configuration. :D
 

Jasen777

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Hard to see how it could happen historically. The only real pocket of Unionism in Texas was in the Hill Country (and a few tiny pockets along the Red River). And that's pretty unworkable as a US state in a CSA wins scenario. Also, as Whanztastic pointed out there's little to no white settlement in the proposed state.

For reference:

texas_vote_secession_1861.jpg
 
Originaly I made another map with a boarder for Houston that went farther south bu using the 31st North Parallel but I thought it looked too messy.

I made Houston's boarders by taking into account that the Union had a fairly easy hold on Texas' north during the war. I wanted to make the boarder far enough south where population areas would be within Houston and I tried to take into account the voting records of the counties who voted for and against secession but I did not want to go so far south that Houston would be larger than the remaining Texas which I doubt could be bargained for. So with the map I currently have I figure that the people who can could move accross the boarders to the country they wish and purchase new homes from those who did the same from the opposite side. Also I understand that North Texas is Comanche territory but the people who would want to live in Union Houston would most likely be Germans who historicaly had good relations with Comanche.

Housten Jacinto Texas 2.jpg
 
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Now though I noticed another alternate boarder that I hadn't thought of before before. What do you think?

Housten Jacinto Texas 3.jpg
 
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